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Gordon Hayward 2013-2014 Season Outlook


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#1 aaa1

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:13 AM

What do you think about Gordon Hayward's fantasy prospects as the starting SF in Utah? I've never been a big fan, but the opportunity intrigues me. One thing I like is his ability to hit the three, he made 1.4 in 28 minutes per game, but more impressively he shot 41.5% from beyond the arc.

Projections? I think we could see something like: 16pts, 2 treys, 4 rebs, 4 ast, 1 stl. That's a pretty decent line depending on where you can get him in the draft.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:56 AM

I was a doubter last year, but he really showed me.  One of the right moves my main opponent made against me.  He should get a decent amount of shots this year.  Will Mo be back?  That's a big factor for him too.  Favors should take less shots than Millsap, and the same for Kanter.  I think his scoring could go from 17-20 pts.  17 being the safer bet.  
I think baseline 17 - 1.5 - 3 - 3 - .8
Optimal 20 - 2 - 4 - 4 - 1
He's a solid player, and I wouldn't overlook him on draft day.  89th ranked player last year by average in 9 cat, which would be 8th round value.  He will be gone before that this year.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:22 PM

For all the hoopla being directed at Favors and Kanter, I think people are underestimating the impact of the departure of Millsap and Jefferson on Hayward. There's a lot more touches to be had on the offensive end, and despite their skills, I seriously doubt two youngsters are going to step right in and fully replace the usage of Millsap and Jefferson (particularly Jefferson - pass the ball to him and you'll never see it again). I think Hayward will have a far more significant offensive role this year, which is quite important since he's always been stuck with an inconsistent 26-32 minute role in previous years. During the last month of last season where he got 34.7 minutes, he posted top 50 numbers. He's got a very versatile game despite his athletic limitations, and I'd be eager to pick him in the 60-70s. I'd totally understand if someone were to reach even earlier though. I must say that it'll take a near miracle for him to average 20 points though. Even 17 is a stretch.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:13 PM

View Postballsohard, on 24 July 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

For all the hoopla being directed at Favors and Kanter, I think people are underestimating the impact of the departure of Millsap and Jefferson on Hayward. There's a lot more touches to be had on the offensive end, and despite their skills, I seriously doubt two youngsters are going to step right in and fully replace the usage of Millsap and Jefferson (particularly Jefferson - pass the ball to him and you'll never see it again). I think Hayward will have a far more significant offensive role this year, which is quite important since he's always been stuck with an inconsistent 26-32 minute role in previous years. During the last month of last season where he got 34.7 minutes, he posted top 50 numbers. He's got a very versatile game despite his athletic limitations, and I'd be eager to pick him in the 60-70s. I'd totally understand if someone were to reach even earlier though. I must say that it'll take a near miracle for him to average 20 points though. Even 17 is a stretch.

I don't think Hayward really is at a disadvantage with his athleticism, in fact I think he's above average for his size/position combo.  I just think we're not used to seeing guys that are basically translucent and 6'8" with solid athleticism.  I don't know why this is, but there are plenty of very athletic white guys in the NBA's history/present, but they always seem to be dark haired like guys from former Yugoslavia or Italians or Spaniards etc.  9 times out of 10 when you see a guy of Northern European decent in the NBA he's a bruiser and a big, or if he's a guard he's a pure shooter (I think of Novak as the prototype for this kind of guy).  I was going to say Kirilenko was one of the rare exceptions but Russians are more Slav's than Northern Europeans.  Maybe the Barry's?

Anyway, I totally got off track there, but I am loving the Hayward pick next year.  He has a game that is just built for fantasy, especially roto, and he's the reason the Jazz were willing to let both bigs goes beyond Favors/Kanter.  I'm looking at his post ASB #'s from last year (once the Jazz figured out there rotation a little bit more, they were a wreck all year though it seemed) and he put up:
Gordon Hayward (SG/SF): 33min/g - 15.1p 1.9thr 3.5reb 3.7ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 1.4to on 44%FG/44%thr/84%FT
Those are some solid numbers if you ask me, and those were deflated in my opinion but the lack of defined role and moving in and out of the starting 5 constantly since they liked him running the 2nd unit against better teams.  I would expect a 10-20% increase in most of his #'s.

Looks like he's starting his summer off on the right foot, too.  Posted today, "multiple sources report Gordon Hayward and Doug McDermott have been the stand-outs of Team USA mini-camp so far".

Edited by krupocin, 24 July 2013 - 08:13 PM.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 09:26 PM

As long as Ty Corbin doesn't keep messing with his minutes, I think he's a great play.  He's like a slightly poorer man's Chandler Parsons.  Actually he is pretty much on the same level, dependent on his MPG.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

View Postvnmslsrbms, on 25 July 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

As long as Ty Corbin doesn't keep messing with his minutes, I think he's a great play.  He's like a slightly poorer man's Chandler Parsons.  Actually he is pretty much on the same level, dependent on his MPG.

I see him as equal if not superior to Parsons actually
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:54 PM


Gordon Hayward said he has been asked to be more of a playmaker this season.

The Jazz basically have a clean slate compared to last year, losing four of their top-five scorers from 2012-13. Hayward seems to be a lock to improve on his 14.1 points per game and his second-half 3-point shooting also gives him plenty of hope for a breakout season. The Butler swingman made 44.0 percent of his triples after the break and he's someone we're targeting in the middle rounds.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 01:15 PM

I think Hayward's assists are going to take a real solid rise to around 4.5 per game. I see him handling the ball a lot this year, and added assists will only add to his already strong value. I'm buying, as I'm sure most are.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

8/7/8/3 steals tonight against GSW in 26 minutes. Burke had 3 dimes. Looking good and primed for a breakout.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:44 PM

I believe this kid will overtake Kanter and Favors as the premier breakout star for the jazz this year.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:59 AM

hopefully he can produce near the stats of manu ginobili in 09-10 & 10-11... but with 34 plus minutes..
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PF: Derrick Favors
C: Jonas Valanciunas
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:53 AM

What's his projected ADP?
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#13 JohnWegther

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:01 PM

On yahoo Hayward ADP is in the mid nineties but he could go as early as 6th round in a deep league

#14 Donnie99

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:23 AM

I like hayward's game. Especially that January month of his last season.  He is a notorious slow starter, so you can trade for him early in the season, then you can have a bargain after that.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:51 AM

View Postk1ng, on 09 October 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

What's his projected ADP?

On ESPN, ranked 113 and ADP of 106. Could be an easy steal as your second or third SG.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:47 PM

Christ, I just picked him up off the WW in one of my leagues. Used my wavier position on him, but I was last anyway (got first pick), so he was basically free, lol. I guess everybody is asleep until the season starts.
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:37 PM

& you got a steal.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 03:32 PM

I would def. try to target him this year. I love the hustle and defense this kid brings every game. Whats not to like ? Depending on how much of a green light he gets on the offense end I view him as a Nic Batum type player.
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#19 DZaak

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 12:28 AM

I got him in the 80's in a public draft (see team#2 in my sig).  To be honest, I think he can go in the low 100's if you are doing the public draft against people you don't know... a definite steal.

With friends who are fantasy veterans, you may have to draft as early as the 50's maybe.  But 70's or 80's is a good steal.  You'd be really risking losing him though by waiting.
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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:35 PM

Got him at 83




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