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Daniel Thomas 2013 Season Outlook"Neck and Neck" w/ Miller for MIA starting RB


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#1 B.J.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:15 PM

What the hell is going on down in Miami? Is Thomas really in the hunt for the starting RB or are the Fins using him to push Miller?
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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:17 PM

It's gonna be a timeshare. Miller is bust of the year.
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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:18 PM

not sure I like how this smells...

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:04 PM

d thomas is not that bad ... remember in his rookie year in his first and second game he ripped off a string of 107 and 95 yards rushing with 10 and 27 yards receiving. then he played with hammy issues ROS and it sapped his ability.

then last year he was in the coaches doghouses and had a buncha concussions. If lamar miller was so great and thomas was so bad, why did they still work both into the mix last year?
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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:06 PM

I remember his rookie year people here were comparing Daniel Thomas to Arian Foster.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:19 PM

As a Bell owner, I ran to add Thomas instead of any of the other Pittsburgh backs.  I think he is at least flex worthy if it's a 50/50 split.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:52 PM

Found this after searching for myself.  Obviously the sample sizes are small, but there's not much else to go by.  http://www.thephinsi...preseason-games  Thomas' NFL rank amongst RB's is 13 while Miller sits at 135.  Not sure it really matters, but the Phins fans seem to be impressed with Thomas.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:58 PM

You want input from a fin fan? I was extremely impressed with him coming out of college. He looked big and pretty explosive for his size, but my take on him has made a 180 since he was drafted.
I have not missed a game of his and have even attended a few from out of town and I am extremely unimpressed. He has no big play ability, is average in the pass game, and seems to only get what is blocked. Do not believe anything you read saying he is a legitimate threat to Lamar receiving the bulk of the carries.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:08 AM

View PostOverRatedRevis, on 20 August 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

You want input from a fin fan? I was extremely impressed with him coming out of college. He looked big and pretty explosive for his size, but my take on him has made a 180 since he was drafted.
I have not missed a game of his and have even attended a few from out of town and I am extremely unimpressed. He has no big play ability, is average in the pass game, and seems to only get what is blocked. Do not believe anything you read saying he is a legitimate threat to Lamar receiving the bulk of the carries.

no big play ability, average in the pass game, only gets what is blocked.
so he is Shonne Greene 2.0?

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:17 AM

View PostGains, on 21 August 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

View PostOverRatedRevis, on 20 August 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

You want input from a fin fan? I was extremely impressed with him coming out of college. He looked big and pretty explosive for his size, but my take on him has made a 180 since he was drafted.
I have not missed a game of his and have even attended a few from out of town and I am extremely unimpressed. He has no big play ability, is average in the pass game, and seems to only get what is blocked. Do not believe anything you read saying he is a legitimate threat to Lamar receiving the bulk of the carries.

no big play ability, average in the pass game, only gets what is blocked.
so he is Shonne Greene 2.0?

You trust a guy named OverRatedRevis?

Seriously though, he's obviously had an underwhelming NFL career.  Maybe he's turned things around.

Edited by Deadpool, 21 August 2013 - 12:20 AM.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:45 AM

I'll quit fantasy football for good if Daniel Thomas wins the job.
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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:51 AM

why was it so strongly assumed in the first place that it's lamar miller's backfield? was it a creation of fantasy writer speculation that fed on itself?
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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:54 AM

View PostLyondellBasell, on 21 August 2013 - 01:51 AM, said:

why was it so strongly assumed in the first place that it's lamar miller's backfield? was it a creation of fantasy writer speculation that fed on itself?

when bush left he was the only RB worth a dam on the roster.
Thomas's nickname on yahoo FF is fumbling dan. 100% srs.

if you got gore comparing your to clinton portis and you lose your job to a guy named "fumbling dan" you need to hang your head in shame for the rest of your days.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:28 AM

He's the clear handcuff, but wont put up great stats as the starter.  If anything any sort of a time share conversation only pushes back Lamar Millers ADP which makes him even a better value.  

D Thomas is average-bad.  Probably not a top 20 handcuff for me if we are factoring in potential as a starter as a huge part (which I do).  I mean you can draft Montario Hardesty to handcuff T-Rich. But why?
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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:52 AM

View PostDeadpool, on 21 August 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

View PostGains, on 21 August 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

View PostOverRatedRevis, on 20 August 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

You want input from a fin fan? I was extremely impressed with him coming out of college. He looked big and pretty explosive for his size, but my take on him has made a 180 since he was drafted.
I have not missed a game of his and have even attended a few from out of town and I am extremely unimpressed. He has no big play ability, is average in the pass game, and seems to only get what is blocked. Do not believe anything you read saying he is a legitimate threat to Lamar receiving the bulk of the carries.

no big play ability, average in the pass game, only gets what is blocked.
so he is Shonne Greene 2.0?

You trust a guy named OverRatedRevis?

Seriously though, he's obviously had an underwhelming NFL career.  Maybe he's turned things around.

What does someone's username have anything to do with their input on a topic?

Back on topic, I am a fan of Miller being a solid fantasy contributor but was never on board him being drafted before the late 4th/ early 5th.

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:08 PM

Just because you honestly 'never know,' I've added Daniel Thomas off our waiver wire. It worked last year for me with Alfred Morris when the starting job was wide open (should note I drafted Helu & Royster late knowing I'd at least get 1 starter out of the mix). Worst case scenario I drop him in a few weeks, best case, he's flex worthy or covers bye weeks and approaches 700 yds in a timeshare, plus some goal line work. If you're drafting in the teen rounds, he's definitely worth a flier, but nothing before round 12/13,

Edited by DS1419, 22 August 2013 - 07:09 PM.

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 02:41 PM

Moe Torboat @NFLMoe 3m Source tells me Giants GM Reese contacting Dolphins about Daniel Thomas

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 09:43 PM

View PostDS1419, on 22 August 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

Just because you honestly 'never know,' I've added Daniel Thomas off our waiver wire. It worked last year for me with Alfred Morris when the starting job was wide open (should note I drafted Helu & Royster late knowing I'd at least get 1 starter out of the mix). Worst case scenario I drop him in a few weeks, best case, he's flex worthy or covers bye weeks and approaches 700 yds in a timeshare, plus some goal line work. If you're drafting in the teen rounds, he's definitely worth a flier, but nothing before round 12/13,
In addition, MIA's schedule is so sweet if something happens to Miller than Thomas is in a very nice position to excel ROS.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:32 PM

So, does anyone know what the deal is here?

Thomas is still saying that he "Expects" a 50/50 type thing. The GM seems to want him to play...

We all know he sucks, that's clear. But, in like a 16 team league where you start an additional RB/WR and Flex, you have to keep him, right?

I can't imagine it's a true time-share, but who knows.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:16 PM

Did you see how the Dolphins handled Reggie Bush? There's a reason I shied away from Lamar Miller. He will be misused for sure like Bush was, who did a 50/50 timeshare some games with Thomas and on occasion even was benched in favor of Thomas.
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