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#1 LyondellBasell

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 01:19 PM

no thread on him? i'm reading all this stuff elsewhere about the targets he's getting. the jacksonville stink is that bad?
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Posted 19 September 2013 - 01:22 PM

Anyone named Ace has had a lot pressure to live up to athletically there whole life. They seem to fail on the big stage.

Edited by tucker26, 19 September 2013 - 01:23 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:53 PM

Listed behind Blackmon on the depth chart. Could be a decent add in deep PPR leagues.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:01 PM

just picked him up in my 16 league ppr
10-man league (0.5 PPR, 6pt Passing TDs, 2 TE slots):
QB: Luck, Freeman
RB: Spiller, Sproles, Leshoure, Moreno
WR: Marshall, Colston, Decker, Shorts, Hilton, Givens
TE: Graham, Myers
D/ST: Bengals, Seahawks

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QB: Brady
RB: R. Bush, Sproles, Reece, Moreno, F. Jones, Ingram, Powell
WR: Floyd, Cobb, Kerley
TE: Olsen
D/ST: Atlanta, Cleveland

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:03 PM

He is a slot reciever. The add here is Mike Brown... who was running with the "ones" in camp when Blackmon was out and filled in for Blackmon.
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Posted 01 November 2013 - 04:15 PM

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 01 November 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

He is a slot reciever. The add here is Mike Brown... who was running with the "ones" in camp when Blackmon was out and filled in for Blackmon.

yeah, i would have picked up mike brown but someone else beat me to it...i think ace could provide something in ppr though
10-man league (0.5 PPR, 6pt Passing TDs, 2 TE slots):
QB: Luck, Freeman
RB: Spiller, Sproles, Leshoure, Moreno
WR: Marshall, Colston, Decker, Shorts, Hilton, Givens
TE: Graham, Myers
D/ST: Bengals, Seahawks

20-man standard league:
QB: Brady
RB: R. Bush, Sproles, Reece, Moreno, F. Jones, Ingram, Powell
WR: Floyd, Cobb, Kerley
TE: Olsen
D/ST: Atlanta, Cleveland

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:20 PM

bumpy, anything to see here?  Been fairly consistent past 3 weeks.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:34 AM

i also am wondering the same thing

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:05 AM

8 catches for 60 yards that you can almost count on.  Beats the hell out of the Burleson, Boykins, Streaters, and Pattersons of the world.
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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:58 PM

After many injuries, I have to start this guy in a 14 team, full point PPR for the playoffs as my WR3. Not feeling especially confident, but what the hell...

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:19 PM

I'm in a similar boat, 14-team half-point PPR.  I've got Sanders rostered but honestly wondering how far I can really trust a pint-sized slot WR.  Seems like a Dexter McCluster type situation.

Ace Sanders hasn't scored yet this year.  Whereas slot guys like Eddie Royal have their fantasy value buoyed by some TDs, that really seems to be the separating factor here.

I just checked last game, and the Jaguars mostly targeted him on pass plays on JAC's side of the field, to move the chains.

The first time they targeted Ace Sanders on the opposing team's side of the field, was when CLE kicked it off in the 4th quarter, and Ace Sanders returned it (yes, he's their kick/punter returner) from JAC's 26 for a 31-yard gain to CLE's 43-yard line.  A few plays later, with less than 5 minutes left in the game, we finally got this:

3rd and 8 on CLE's 10-yard line:
(4:59) 7-C.Henne pass short left to 18-A.Sanders to CLE 7 for 3 yards (50-D.Eubanks; 21-C.Owens).

So basically, they only threw it to him in that situation because they had to, on 3rd down.  1st and 2nd down were MJD up the middle plays.

Then, Josh Gordon responds in one play with his 95-yard TD, and the Jags get the ball back with under 4 minutes and MUST score.  They move the ball down the field and we see this just before the game ends:


  • 1-10-CLE 21(1:28) (Shotgun) 7-C.Henne pass short left to 18-A.Sanders to CLE 20 for 1 yard (23-J.Haden).
  • 2-9-CLE 20(:50) (Shotgun) 7-C.Henne pass incomplete short right to 18-A.Sanders [92-D.Bryant].
  • 3-9-CLE 20(:45) (Shotgun) 7-C.Henne pass short left to 84-C.Shorts for 20 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


On the surface, it seems to me that they use him primarily on 3rd downs / desperation plays, NOT because they want to use him in the red zone to actually score TDs.  I think his TD potential is considerably lower than a lot of other players (think a guy like Marquise Goodwin or Aldrick Robinson, or Chris Givens, the big-play burners), based on his usage.

And I still think 8 receptions is most likely an anomaly.  I know he's done it twice, but how many nobodies consistently get 8 receptions a week?  Pretty much none.  Seems like regression is more likely to happen.

Thus I'm predicting maybe a 5 catches / 50 yards type of statline.  In PPR, (assuming 10 yards = 1 point), that's 10 points.  Barely.  In 0.5 PPR, that's just 7.5 points.  Without the possibility of TD-upside, there's likely better fliers unless you need ONLY 5-8 points from your FLEX spot.

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:24 PM


Ace Sanders - WR Jax vs Hou


It would appear that Ace is back to 100% based on his performances the past couple weeks, and it would also appear that Ace has replaced a gimpy Mike Brown as the number 2 WR in Jacksonville. This couldn't come at a better time for fantasy owners hurting for a WR3/Flex play in deep leagues. I know what you are thinking : "But Houston doesn't give up points to fantasy WRs!" and your thinking is correct, Houston is ranked 27th in surrendering points to opposing WRs, which is a trend I don't like. A trend I DO like, however, is what they've given up to opposing WR 2s the past 4 games.


Edelman 9rec 101 yards

Sanders 4rec 61 yards

Streater 6rec 84yards 1TD

Roberts 5rec 71yards 1TD


which averages out to 6 rec 79.3 yards .5TDs


Reasons for this include a D-Line that hasn't been getting pressure on the QB all season mixed in with a seriously banged up secondary. If Sanders draws Kareem Jackson, he will get a DB that only has 1 pass defense in the past 5 games and averages 5 tackles per game. If Sanders draws Jonathon Joesph (which I doubt) he will get a DB who has been limited in practice with a groin injury. Both look like great matchups in this short week. Look for Ace to improve on his previous 4 catch 61 yard performance against the Texans this week at HOME in jacksonville Best of all, Sanders is only owned in 1% of yahoo leagues, so don't be afraid to scoop and play!


Prediction

Sanders 6 rec 87yards 1TD


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:28 PM

View PostFantasyFiend, on 05 December 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:


Ace Sanders - WR Jax vs Hou

It would appear that Ace is back to 100% based on his performances the past couple weeks, and it would also appear that Ace has replaced a gimpy Mike Brown as the number 2 WR in Jacksonville. This couldn't come at a better time for fantasy owners hurting for a WR3/Flex play in deep leagues. I know what you are thinking : "But Houston doesn't give up points to fantasy WRs!" and your thinking is correct, Houston is ranked 27th in surrendering points to opposing WRs, which is a trend I don't like. A trend I DO like, however, is what they've given up to opposing WR 2s the past 4 games.

Edelman 9rec 101 yards
Sanders 4rec 61 yards
Streater 6rec 84yards 1TD
Roberts 5rec 71yards 1TD

which averages out to 6 rec 79.3 yards .5TDs

Reasons for this include a D-Line that hasn't been getting pressure on the QB all season mixed in with a seriously banged up secondary. If Sanders draws Kareem Jackson, he will get a DB that only has 1 pass defense in the past 5 games and averages 5 tackles per game. If Sanders draws Jonathon Joesph (which I doubt) he will get a DB who has been limited in practice with a groin injury. Both look like great matchups in this short week. Look for Ace to improve on his previous 4 catch 61 yard performance against the Texans this week at HOME in jacksonville Best of all, Sanders is only owned in 1% of yahoo leagues, so don't be afraid to scoop and play!

Prediction
Sanders 6 rec 87yards 1TD

Why do you predict a TD?

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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RB1: Mikel LeShoure - RB2: Dexter McCluster - Bench: Montario Hardesty, Kevin Smith
TE: Dennis Pitta
FLEX: Tony Gonzalez
K: Greg Zuerlein

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 03:50 AM

Does his role increase if MJD is out?
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 03:57 AM

^ MJD seems to be fine. MJD not playing would hurt the offense as whole more then anything would help sanders.


I am really worried about a 5'7'' 173 lb guys upside.............he even smaller then tavon austin.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:50 AM

You don't have to be big if you can throw TDs

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:09 AM

View Postowenmills, on 06 December 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

You don't have to be big if you can throw TDs

lol. I took a chance and he kind of worked out for me in PPR format from last night's stats.
14 Teams Standard Scoring
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WR: K Allen,TY Hilton, T Williams, M Jones, R Cobb,
RB: L McCoy, L Bell, Andre Brown
TE: J Graham, J Reed
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Posted 06 December 2013 - 05:50 PM

Haha, his usage was basically what I expected.  TD potential is dismal if we're talking rushing/receiving.  He just got lucky that his number got called during that trick play and he scored a passing TD (which I was thankful for in my 6-point passing TD league, since I did make a last minute lineup switch and started him).

That easily could have been MJD throwing that trick play TD pass instead.  Obviously you can't rely on passing TDs from Ace Sanders.  Back to the scrap heap unless you're desperate, and even then, I'd be desperate somewhere else.

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

Rotoworld Mock Draft Real League - 12-Team PPR (Teamname: "Maniac Allstars"):
QB: Andrew Luck
WR1: Calvin Johnson - WR2: Torrey Smith - Bench: Josh Gordon, Chris Givens, Ryan Broyles
RB1: Mikel LeShoure - RB2: Dexter McCluster - Bench: Montario Hardesty, Kevin Smith
TE: Dennis Pitta
FLEX: Tony Gonzalez
K: Greg Zuerlein

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:39 PM

View PostRobrain, on 06 December 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

Haha, his usage was basically what I expected.  TD potential is dismal if we're talking rushing/receiving.  He just got lucky that his number got called during that trick play and he scored a passing TD (which I was thankful for in my 6-point passing TD league, since I did make a last minute lineup switch and started him).

That easily could have been MJD throwing that trick play TD pass instead.  Obviously you can't rely on passing TDs from Ace Sanders.  Back to the scrap heap unless you're desperate, and even then, I'd be desperate somewhere else.

Yep, that fluke pass TD saved his day, and I was just laughing when I saw it. That being said, I will likely start him again next week if I advance, as I am that desperate. But we do ppr and return yards, so that gives him a bump.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:59 PM

So with Shorts potentially a no-go for Sunday, I don't think Sanders' prospects improve much. Anyone see any upside here?


If anything Brown would be the guy to go with here.....I think.


/sigh

Edited by Giants4XChamps, 12 December 2013 - 01:59 PM.





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