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#1 pepper11

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:27 PM

Anyone else notice the lack of quality waiver wire additions this year. Its the week 5 wire and I can't think of any quality waiver additions in any of my leagues. I an not talking about the Joque Bell and Moreno as they were not available in most competitive leagues. Thinking back over the last 5 years there have been some absolute studs on the wire.

Vick 2010 top qb
Newton 2011 top 4 qb
Shorts 2012 top 15 second half
Danario 2012 top 15 second half
Moreno 2012 top 15 second half
Hillis 2010 top 5
Sydney Rice 2009 top 10
Charles 2009 top 12 and playoff hero
Miles Austin 2009 top 10 and playoff hero
victor Cruz 2011 top 5

That is just if the top if my head and doesn't include guys like Cobb morris and Russel wilson that were also available in many leagues last year.

Those are just a few. What gives thus year. There is nothing. Blial powell and his 10 points a game is the best i have seen in my leagues so far. I knew its early but still.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:34 PM

You can thank all these RBBC 3 headed bs
*12 TEAM - 1pt PPR *

QB - T. ROMO - M. VICK

RB - D.MARTIN - R.BUSH - A.BROWN

WR - D. BOWE - P.GARCON - A. BROWN

WR - J. BLACKMON -  J. GORDON - T. AUSTIN

TE - G.OLSEN - J. FINLEY

#3 tbonuss

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:36 PM

Seems the same as ever to me. Just as now, those guys you listed weren't known studs, or they wouldn't have been FA's. Don't you think that when people picked up KMoreno last year they were saying the exact same thing? Save a copy of your FA list right now, and go back at the end of the year, and you'll see that they are there. Just as in years past, we don't know who they are yet.
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10 Team 1.0 PPR

QB: Phillip Rivers
RB1: Jamaal Charles
RB2: Frank Gore
RB/WR/TE: Knowshon Moreno
WR1: Antonio Brown
WR2: Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron
D/ST: Who are the "Chefs"
K: Justin Tucker

Bench:
DEF: CIN
RB: Andre Brown / Le'Veon Bell / Montee Ball / Joique Bell
WR: Keenan Allen / Harry Douglas

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:37 PM

I agree...There hasn't really been much of anything...No real difference makers that I can think of...

Edelman has been decent if you're in a PPR league...But I don't expect it to continue....

Still time for Eddie Royal to be the big waiver surprise if he somehow musters a couple more big games...

I plucked J Cameron off waivers before our season started....He's been a nice surprise and could be considered a stud from the wire...

Actually though, probably the Chiefs defense/sp has been the best waiver wire find so far.

Still time for guys to emerge though as injuries happen and we get farther along into the season.

I just picked up M Floyd and Ellington from the free agent pool in my 14 teamer....Hoping we see their names emerge as candidates for this list :)

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:39 PM

Edelman and some of the TE's like Julius Thomas this year were WW adds in many leagues.

Phillip Rivers was a WW add in most leagues unless he was drafted in the late rounds as someones backup QB

Alex Smith is quietly a top 10 QB so far this season.

Fred Jackson was most likely drafted as a handcuff but may have been WW'd initially in a few leagues

Danny Woodhead has cracked the top 20 RBs thanks to a massive performance and is currently at 45% owned in ESPN (+31% change) which means last week he was only owned in 14% of leagues. (Man, do I really feel like a genius for starting him last week now).

Nate Washington just cracked the top 20 in WRs this week and is only owned in 31% of ESPN leagues (+22% change)

It's still early in the season yet.

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QB-Mark Sanchez
RB-Jamaal Charles, Rashad Jennings, Ahmad Bradshaw, Denard Robinson, Adrian Peterson, Travaris Cadet
WR-Antonio Brown, Pierre Garcon, Roddy White, Josh Gordon
TE-Mychal Rivera, Jordan Reed
D-Chiefs (Stream)
K-Cody Parkey

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QB-Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler
RB-DeMarco Murray, Arian Foster, Ahmad Bradshaw, Mark Ingram, Adrian Peterson
WR-Golden Tate, Vincent Jackson, Julian Edelman, Josh Gordon. Dwayne Bowe
TE-Greg Olsen
D-(Stream)
K-Matt Prater


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:41 PM

Keep an eye on Andre Ellington. He may soon get the nod even without a Mendenhall injury because of poor play and now in the coaches dog house after last game vs. Bucs. I know the cards schedule isn't looking good for RB's but I think where he will shine is in the dump off screen game in space, similar to how the Lions use Bush.

12 Team Standard - Non PPR

QB - Cutler
RB - L. Bell
RB - Lacy
WR - ODB
WR - Sanders
WR - Gordon
TE - Graham
FL - Stills 
K -  Parkey
Def- Lions

Bench (Sanchez, Ellington, Herron, G. Tate, Donnell, Gould)


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:47 PM

Keenan Allen in deep leagues. Had a good game last week and will start/play a lot based solely on attrition. And Phillip Rivers looks like he's back to his old gun-slinging ways.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

Holben and others providing a very good list, and that's just so far.

To highlight:

KC CHIEFS (#1 DEF)
PRrivers (#3 QB)

Don't forget MVick (#4 QB). 15th ADP on ESPN = undrafted where people only take one QB in 10 or 12 team leagues and wait and see. (And don't start with the non-competive league garbage--that's all hindsight nonsense and has absolutely no place in this thread).
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10 Team 1.0 PPR

QB: Phillip Rivers
RB1: Jamaal Charles
RB2: Frank Gore
RB/WR/TE: Knowshon Moreno
WR1: Antonio Brown
WR2: Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron
D/ST: Who are the "Chefs"
K: Justin Tucker

Bench:
DEF: CIN
RB: Andre Brown / Le'Veon Bell / Montee Ball / Joique Bell
WR: Keenan Allen / Harry Douglas

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:54 PM

Holben and others providing a very good list, and that's just so far.

To highlight:

KC CHIEFS (#1 DEF)
PRrivers (#3 QB)

Don't forget MVick (#4 QB). 15th ADP on ESPN = undrafted where people only take one QB in 10 or 12 team leagues and wait and see. (And don't start with the non-competive league garbage--that's all hindsight nonsense and has absolutely no place in this thread).


Haha, I nominated Vick in my auction league for $1 hoping someone would pay $2 for him. Nope, was initially mad I got stuck with him!

Everybody was Kung Fu Fightin - 12 Team 1 PPR Auction (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex:RB/WR/TE, D, K)
QB-Mark Sanchez
RB-Jamaal Charles, Rashad Jennings, Ahmad Bradshaw, Denard Robinson, Adrian Peterson, Travaris Cadet
WR-Antonio Brown, Pierre Garcon, Roddy White, Josh Gordon
TE-Mychal Rivera, Jordan Reed
D-Chiefs (Stream)
K-Cody Parkey

Wes Welker Poppin' Miley - 12 Team 1 PPR Auction (QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex:RB/WR/TE, D, K)
QB-Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler
RB-DeMarco Murray, Arian Foster, Ahmad Bradshaw, Mark Ingram, Adrian Peterson
WR-Golden Tate, Vincent Jackson, Julian Edelman, Josh Gordon. Dwayne Bowe
TE-Greg Olsen
D-(Stream)
K-Matt Prater


#10 Iron-cock

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:03 PM

Charles, Austin and Newton all stood out to me.

Charles broke out week 8, Austin week 5. Newton was week 1 (and the first few weeks of the season were big for him).

We probably haven't seen our big "breakout" waiver wire add yet unless it's Julius Thomas and we don't know how big he's going to be yet.

I don't think every year is as dramatic as it was with Austin and Charles because they really tore it up in the fantasy playoffs.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:23 PM

Josh Gordon had an ADP of 110

Jordan Cameron was 120

10 team private $$$ ppr league  *C*H*A*M*P*I*O*N*S*H*I*P* *G*A*M*E*
QB:  MStafford

RB: JCharles,  LMurray  (TMason, ICrowell, RHillman )
WR: JordyNelson, OBeckham, JoshGordon (JulioJones , DAdams, HDouglas)
TE:  TKelce
K: AVinitieri
DST: NYG (MIA)

 

12 Team Yahoo Public Auction 4th place

PG: KLowry, JTeague, BKnight, TBurke

SG: RCovington, KJ McDaniels

SF: CAnthony,GAntetokounmpo

PF: DCousins, OAsik

C: DJordan, RGobert, TMosgov


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:32 PM

Charles, Austin and Newton all stood out to me.

Charles broke out week 8, Austin week 5. Newton was week 1 (and the first few weeks of the season were big for him).

We probably haven't seen our big "breakout" waiver wire add yet unless it's Julius Thomas and we don't know how big he's going to be yet.

I don't think every year is as dramatic as it was with Austin and Charles because they really tore it up in the fantasy playoffs.


Great points!

JThomas ADP TE was 7 (likely drafted).
JCameron ADP TE was 14 (likely un-drafted in many leagues). He got drafted #71 overall in my league and everyone thought I reached -- but I can't claim him as a WW find personally.
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10 Team 1.0 PPR

QB: Phillip Rivers
RB1: Jamaal Charles
RB2: Frank Gore
RB/WR/TE: Knowshon Moreno
WR1: Antonio Brown
WR2: Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron
D/ST: Who are the "Chefs"
K: Justin Tucker

Bench:
DEF: CIN
RB: Andre Brown / Le'Veon Bell / Montee Ball / Joique Bell
WR: Keenan Allen / Harry Douglas

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:39 PM

Julus Thomas was the 7th TE taken in your draft? Was it after week 1?

12 team
QB - Cutler (Ben)
RB - Eddie Lacey/Gio (Veeren/Starks/West)
WR - Dez Bryant/K.Allen/Michael Floyd (Benjamin/Matthews/Randle/Britt)
Flex - Reggie Bush
TE - Cameron (L.Green)
K - Tucker
Def - KC(stream)
 

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QB - Cutler (Romo)

RB - Montee Ball/Gio (t) (J.Hill, Asiata, McKinnon)

WR - Brown/Edelman (TWill, Benjamin)

TE - Gronk (Donnell)

Flex- Cooks (was ADP :()

Def - NE

Kicker - Bailey


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:44 PM

Julus Thomas was the 7th TE taken in your draft? Was it after week 1?


I had never even heard of him until week 1 and I consider myself somewhat savvy. If he keeps it up he may indeed be the WW pickup of the year.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:50 PM

Still plenty of time. Simpson with Cassel at the helm and Mike Goodson might be on this list by the end of the season.
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:00 PM


Charles, Austin and Newton all stood out to me.

Charles broke out week 8, Austin week 5. Newton was week 1 (and the first few weeks of the season were big for him).

We probably haven't seen our big "breakout" waiver wire add yet unless it's Julius Thomas and we don't know how big he's going to be yet.

I don't think every year is as dramatic as it was with Austin and Charles because they really tore it up in the fantasy playoffs.


Great points!

JThomas ADP TE was 7 (likely drafted).
JCameron ADP TE was 14 (likely un-drafted in many leagues). He got drafted #71 overall in my league and everyone thought I reached -- but I can't claim him as a WW find personally.


I call b.s. on Thomas being drafted ahead of Cameron. I didn't see one mock or one live draft where Thomas was taken anywhere close to Cameron. If he [thomas] was taken at all it was late rounds as a flier, not once did I see more.

Jordan Cameron was touted by every fantasy football site known to man. He couldn't be considered a sleeper by my standards.. As everyone knew about him.

Small edit: if u drafted him in the 7th that doesn't mean his ADP is 7. That not an average, that's an individual selection.

Edited by osb_tensor, 02 October 2013 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:00 PM

TP QB has been a really good pickup.
10 team, standard scoring, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB, 1 DEF, 1 K T. Brady QB NE
T. Gerhart RB JAX
CJ. Spiller RB BUF
D. Bryant WR DAL
D. Thomas WR DEN
R. Gronkowski TE NE
A. Jeffery W/R CHI
S. Hauschka K SEA
49ers DEF SF

J. Gordon WR CLE
J. Cutler BN CHI
L. Miller BN MIA
C. Michael BN SEA

T. Richardson BN IND
J. Hill BN CIN

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:01 PM

Holben and others providing a very good list, and that's just so far.

To highlight:

KC CHIEFS (#1 DEF)
PRrivers (#3 QB)

Don't forget MVick (#4 QB). 15th ADP on ESPN = undrafted where people only take one QB in 10 or 12 team leagues and wait and see. (And don't start with the non-competive league garbage--that's all hindsight nonsense and has absolutely no place in this thread).


I mean, I know you warned me and what not, but Vick really was drafted in every competitive league.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:07 PM



Charles, Austin and Newton all stood out to me.

Charles broke out week 8, Austin week 5. Newton was week 1 (and the first few weeks of the season were big for him).

We probably haven't seen our big "breakout" waiver wire add yet unless it's Julius Thomas and we don't know how big he's going to be yet.

I don't think every year is as dramatic as it was with Austin and Charles because they really tore it up in the fantasy playoffs.


Great points!

JThomas ADP TE was 7 (likely drafted).
JCameron ADP TE was 14 (likely un-drafted in many leagues). He got drafted #71 overall in my league and everyone thought I reached -- but I can't claim him as a WW find personally.


I call b.s. on Thomas being drafted ahead of Cameron. I didn't see one mock or one live draft where Thomas was taken anywhere close to Cameron. If he [thomas] was taken at all it was late rounds as a flier, not once did I see more.

Jordan Cameron was touted by every fantasy football site known to man. He couldn't be considered a sleeper by my standards.. As everyone knew about him.

Small edit: if u drafted him in the 7th that doesn't mean his ADP is 7. That not an average, that's an individual selection.


Don't know what to tell you guys. I'm just looking at the data.

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10 Team 1.0 PPR

QB: Phillip Rivers
RB1: Jamaal Charles
RB2: Frank Gore
RB/WR/TE: Knowshon Moreno
WR1: Antonio Brown
WR2: Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron
D/ST: Who are the "Chefs"
K: Justin Tucker

Bench:
DEF: CIN
RB: Andre Brown / Le'Veon Bell / Montee Ball / Joique Bell
WR: Keenan Allen / Harry Douglas

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 11:42 PM

I agree that the WW seems to be real baren this year. One of my leagues has really deep benches so I expect that to be empty but in my standard roster leagues even they seem to be thin. Usually by now there is at least one or two people who pop and I really can't think of anyone.

I'm talking about people that were on the WW after Week 1 up until now. I don't count Julius Thomas or Julian Edelman because in most competitive leagues they were picked up before Week 1. I guess right now Andre Ellington could be the 2013 WW add but so far I only see him having a chance.

I guess Stephen Hill has a chance if he comes back form his concussion strong.