Jump to content

Visit Rotoworld.comRotoworld Forums  
Rotoworld: MLB | NFL | NBA | NHL | NASCAR | CFB
Sports Talk Blogs: PFT | HBT | PBT | CFT | PHT
  Visit NBCSports.com

- - - - -

Amar'e Stoudemire 2013-2014 Season OutlookWill Stat ever be back?


  • Please log in to reply
177 replies to this topic

#1 det_tigers

det_tigers

    Superstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,422 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:14 PM

Last year he played 29 games and had 14.2 pts 5 reb and .577 FG. Will we ever see him returning his old self again? He is ranked like +100 maybe worth a gamble what you guys think?
8 Teams H2H 5x5 (R-HR-RBI-SB-AVG & W-SW-K-ERA-WHIP)
C: B.McCann
1B: P.Goldschmidt
2B: I.Kinsler
3B: A.Beltre
SS: J.Rollins
OF: R.Braun - A.Rios - Y.Cespedes
Util & Bench: M.Brantley - V.Martinez & J.Bruce- J.Abreu
SP: Y.Darvish - S.Strasburg - C.Hamels - J.Shields -  A.Sanchez - M.Latos (DL) - S.Kazmir - J.Chavez
RP: S.Romo - J.Papelbon - J.Soria - S.Doolittle
12 Teams H2H 6x6 (R-H-HR-RBI-SB-AVG & IP-W-SW-K-ERA-WHIP)
C: S.Perez
1B: D.Ortiz
2B: R.Cano
3B: T.Frazier
SS: Y.Solarte
OF: C.Gonzalez - C.Gomez - H.Pence
Util & Bench & DL: G.Springer & J.Bruce - C.Beltran (DL) - A.Ramirez (DL) - B.Belt (DL)
SP: M.Bumgarner - J.Shields - C.Hamels - G.Cole - H.Bailey - N.Eovaldi - A.Harang - T.Bauer - W.Peralta - J.Beckett
RP: H.Rendon - Z.Britton

#2 OneNastyNupe

OneNastyNupe

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 424 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Boogie

Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:29 PM

View Postdet_tigers, on 18 October 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Last year he played 29 games and had 14.2 pts 5 reb and .577 FG. Will we ever see him returning his old self again? He is ranked like +100 maybe worth a gamble what you guys think?

No he will never be back to his old self again...Knick fan here. There is a reason why the Phoenix Suns medical staff strongly advised the organization against signing him to any deal longer than three years, and we are now seeing their predictions coming to light.  Amare has had 3 knee procedures in the past 9 months already, and is an injury waiting to happen.  He put up decent numbers last year as you stated, but at this point he hasn't even been cleared to practice or any contact.  The fact that he can no longer play in back to back games and has a 20 minute limit on minutes played before even resuming practice says a lot about what he has left. I am staying away from Amare in all drafts. It is not a matter of if, but when the next injury will happen for him.

#3 SenatorSpaceman

SenatorSpaceman

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,649 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NYC

Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:46 PM

I can't believe that people are actually grabbing Stoudemire this year. He is the epitome of damaged goods. Even if he miraculously stays healthy, the Knicks plan on resting him heavily including no back-to-backs.

#4 pdnbsafbce

pdnbsafbce

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 283 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NY

Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:53 PM

View PostSenatorSpaceman, on 25 October 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

I can't believe that people are actually grabbing Stoudemire this year. He is the epitome of damaged goods. Even if he miraculously stays healthy, the Knicks plan on resting him heavily including no back-to-backs.

He's also going to be on a minutes limit as well to keep him alive.

#5 SenatorSpaceman

SenatorSpaceman

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,649 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NYC

Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:58 PM

And the best part for us Knicks fans is that he's making $21.7 million this year and has a player option for $23.4 million in 2013-2014.

$45 more million owed to a guy who is essentially worthless. It's bad enough that he can't play anymore but he's preventing the team from getting better by crippling the cap.

#6 sn24

sn24

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 354 posts

Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

View PostSenatorSpaceman, on 25 October 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

And the best part for us Knicks fans is that he's making $21.7 million this year and has a player option for $23.4 million in 2013-2014.

$45 more million owed to a guy who is essentially worthless. It's bad enough that he can't play anymore but he's preventing the team from getting better by crippling the cap.

Have the Knicks used their amnesty yet? If not then what are they waiting for?

#7 sn24

sn24

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 354 posts

Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:01 PM

Nevermind I just saw that they used it on Billups. Wrong move by the Knicks GM.

#8 CuI2iousGeoI2ge

CuI2iousGeoI2ge

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 286 posts

Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

what an idiot to use it on billups

#9 Lakers_Fan2

Lakers_Fan2

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 290 posts

Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:46 AM

View PostCuI2iousGeoI2ge, on 25 October 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

what an idiot to use it on billups

Definitely not smart but they did so to get Tyson Chandler.

#10 Code of Hammurabi

Code of Hammurabi

    All-Time Great

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,748 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago #thechi
  • Interests:Stocks, fantasy sports and Real Estate investment....

Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:32 PM

At the time they used that cap space to sign Tyson Chandler which is arguably the best signing they have made in the last 10 years.

View Postsn24, on 25 October 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

Nevermind I just saw that they used it on Billups. Wrong move by the Knicks GM.

EMBODYING & ADVOCATING FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHY SINCE 1978

#11 OneNastyNupe

OneNastyNupe

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 424 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Boogie

Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:56 PM

View PostCode of Hammurabi, on 26 October 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

At the time they used that cap space to sign Tyson Chandler which is arguably the best signing they have made in the last 10 years.

View Postsn24, on 25 October 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

Nevermind I just saw that they used it on Billups. Wrong move by the Knicks GM.

As a Knick fan, the minute I heard they invented the amnesty clause after the lockout, I wanted them to use it on Amare.  It was the wrong move to use it on Billups, who only had one year left on his deal.  They still could have signed Chandler if they used the amnesty instead on Amare.  I am one of the few who was against the Amare signing from the beginning though.  I did not want to sign him to an uninsured contract when the Phoenix doctors came out and said he was basically finished and would have 3 years left if that.  Turns out he had one more year left at a high level, so they were right. Water under the bridge now, I just hope we can let his $45 million come off the books and not absorb any more bad contracts.

#12 Code of Hammurabi

Code of Hammurabi

    All-Time Great

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,748 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago #thechi
  • Interests:Stocks, fantasy sports and Real Estate investment....

Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:58 PM

The knicks need to wake up and realize that you cannot build a championship contender around a black hole chucker like Carlemo Anthony.

View PostOneNastyNupe, on 26 October 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

View PostCode of Hammurabi, on 26 October 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

At the time they used that cap space to sign Tyson Chandler which is arguably the best signing they have made in the last 10 years.

View Postsn24, on 25 October 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

Nevermind I just saw that they used it on Billups. Wrong move by the Knicks GM.

As a Knick fan, the minute I heard they invented the amnesty clause after the lockout, I wanted them to use it on Amare.  It was the wrong move to use it on Billups, who only had one year left on his deal.  They still could have signed Chandler if they used the amnesty instead on Amare.  I am one of the few who was against the Amare signing from the beginning though.  I did not want to sign him to an uninsured contract when the Phoenix doctors came out and said he was basically finished and would have 3 years left if that.  Turns out he had one more year left at a high level, so they were right. Water under the bridge now, I just hope we can let his $45 million come off the books and not absorb any more bad contracts.

EMBODYING & ADVOCATING FRIENDLY PHILOSOPHY SINCE 1978

#13 Tarheels_2433

Tarheels_2433

    I'm the Looks, the Brains, & the Wildcard!

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,735 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:WI
  • Interests:Sports are awesome.

Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:27 PM

Young bloodz, cover your eyes... :lol:


"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

#14 tremixt

tremixt

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,178 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Virginia

Posted 20 November 2013 - 12:38 PM

View PostTarheels_2433, on 20 November 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

Young bloodz, cover your eyes... :lol:



What a tragedy he's become.

#15 KaayroMAN

KaayroMAN

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 258 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Milano

Posted 21 November 2013 - 01:32 PM

View PostTarheels_2433, on 20 November 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

Young bloodz, cover your eyes... :lol:



Posted Image

imagine that nasty frontcourt, him & bargnani
Ewing&Oakley would be proud
Yahoo 10 Team H2H Snake ($$$) - 7th pick - 13 cat
9 + (FGM)(FTM)(OREB)(DREB)
--------------------------------------------------------------

ESPN 12 Team H2H Snake (champs only) - 5th pick - 13 cat
9 + (FTMI)(OREB)(DD)(TD)

#16 Johnnyapplebot

Johnnyapplebot

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,454 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 21 November 2013 - 01:36 PM

he will never be the old stat again. In fact, he will most likely never play 35 minutes in a game again.
Fantasy Basketball 10 team league

Team 1

PG - Chris Paul, Isaiah Thomas, Victor Oladipo, D.J Augustin
SG - James Harden, Eric Bledsoe, George Hill
SF - Kawhi Leonard, Wilson Chandler, Kyle Korver
PF - Blake Griffin, Khris Middleton
C - Jonas Valanciunas, Dirk Nowitzki

Team 2

PG - Ty Lawson, Isaiah Thomas
SG - DJ Augustin, Bradley Beal, Wesley Johnson
SF - James Harden, Luol Deng, Matt Barnes, Khris Middleton
PF - Dirk Nowitzki, DeMarr Carroll, Tobias Harris
C -  Andre Drummond, Marc Gasol

#17 taco123

taco123

    Allstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 616 posts

Posted 10 December 2013 - 09:04 PM

Bump. Looking good tonight.
Competitive 12-man H2H 8-Cat

PG: (4) John Wall; (3) Eric Bledsoe
SG: (4) Bradley Beal; (4) Jimmy Butler
SF: (3) Kevin Durant; (4) DeMarre Carroll
PF: (4) Chris Bosh, (4) Taj Gibson
C: (4) Joakim Noah; (4) Marcin Gortat

Bench: (4) Patrick Beverley, (4) Kyle Singler, (4) D.J. Augustin

#18 sya

sya

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,970 posts

Posted 10 December 2013 - 09:38 PM

unless he starts playing in back to backs, and have his minutes restriction lifted, he is not worth the headache. will give you one good game every 2 - 3 weeks.

Can't blame him, it is hard to get into a rhythm.

#19 chrispaulwall

chrispaulwall

    Superstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,360 posts

Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:46 PM

View Postsya, on 10 December 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

unless he starts playing in back to backs, and have his minutes restriction lifted, he is not worth the headache. will give you one good game every 2 - 3 weeks.

Can't blame him, it is hard to get into a rhythm.



Amare Stoudemire will play in his first back-to-back set on Wednesday with no restriction.

He looked like STAT circa 2010 on Tuesday in 27 minutes, scoring 15 points with five boards, two blocks and one steal in a loss. Andrea Barganani has looked terrible lately, so the improvements for Stoudemire doesn't bode well for the Italian. STAT is still far too risky to be considered must-own in most leagues.


#20 angel187

angel187

    Superstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,353 posts

Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:10 PM

View Postchrispaulwall, on 11 December 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

View Postsya, on 10 December 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

unless he starts playing in back to backs, and have his minutes restriction lifted, he is not worth the headache. will give you one good game every 2 - 3 weeks.

Can't blame him, it is hard to get into a rhythm.



Amare Stoudemire will play in his first back-to-back set on Wednesday with no restriction.

He looked like STAT circa 2010 on Tuesday in 27 minutes, scoring 15 points with five boards, two blocks and one steal in a loss. Andrea Barganani has looked terrible lately, so the improvements for Stoudemire doesn't bode well for the Italian. STAT is still far too risky to be considered must-own in most leagues.


Ooohhhh snap!!!! Now what!!!????
10 Man league H2H 8 CAT

PG- Westbrook, Holiday, Nash,
SG- Kyle Lowry, Gerald Henderson, Sefolosha
SF- Kyle Korver, Trevor Ariza, Martell Webster, Parsons
PF- Carmello Anthony, Anthony Davis,
C- Al Jefferson, Joakim Noah,




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users