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Brandon Phillips 2014 Outlook


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#1 poopdungbeatle

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

USA Today's Bob Nightengale reports that the Reds decided a month ago that they will shop Brandon Phillips this winter with "all intents to trade him."
The report comes on the heels of one from John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer that stated the club could be interested in moving the second baseman. Phillips had a .706 OPS in 2013, which was his lowest ever as a Red, but Fay indicated that the main reason they'd want to deal him is because he's ruffled some feathers in the organization. The second baseman has four years and $50 million left on his contract.

David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports that the Braves may be interested in acquiring Brandon Phillips from the Reds provided that they take Dan Uggla as part of the deal.
The Braves would also likely have to include a prospect or two to sweeten the deal. Uggla still has two years and $26 million remaining on his deal with the Braves, while Phillips is still owed $50 million over the next four years.

I've always thought of Phillips as a stand up guy, but he was annoying this year. I couldn't believe how much he whined about his contract. If he felt it was a low offer....then test free agency! Going on twitter wars with people talking about his OBP...lame.
Phillips offensive skills are declining but even with the decline, he's still a good offensive 2b. Add in the stellar defense and he's top 5 all around 2b in the league IMO.
If the Reds land Cuban 2b Alexander Guerrero, I think the Dodgers will make an offer for Phillips.

Edited by poopdungbeatle, 19 October 2013 - 11:43 AM.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

Phillips offensive skills are declining but even with the decline, he's still a good offensive 2b. Add in the stellar defense and he's top 5 all around 2b in the league IMO.


I'm a bit more concerned with his declining skills. I think the RBI masked it, but he's in a pretty noticeable decline across the board. His AVG and OBP were a bit low, but SLG and ISO were terrible compared to his career norms. His wRC+ was below average for him and in general. His contact rate dropped and led to an increase in SwStr%. His SB total may have a partial bounceback, but his Spd score indicates that his speed definitely took a hit. As for his defense, his Range Factor may have held steady, but his Defensive Runs Saved and dWAR were below his career norms. Finally, his WAR of 2.6/1.6 were his 2006. I think his high RBI total was due to Dusty hitting him 4th with the OBP machines of Choo and Votto batting in front of him. For those that own him in a keeper/dynasty, I would highly recommend trying to deal him to an owner who doesn't look past his RBI total and for those in a one-year/redraft, I recommend avoiding him.
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 12:29 AM

Sorry for the rant but this guy is my least favorite player in the league. Just a horrendous attitude, he thinks he is some elite player -- when in reality he is easily replaceable. The fact that he was mad that the Reds extended the much superior Votto over him and it upset him was the last straw for me in this guy being the biggest moron in the league. Then this tidbit came out:


The Yankees are one of the teams on Brandon Phillips' no-trade list, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.
That explains why Phillips was rumored to have asked for more money in any potential deal to the Yankees. Phillips still has four years and $50 million left on his deal, and it's unclear how much more he might ask for to waive the limited no-trade clause. It may be just one of many reasons the Reds end up holding onto the 32-year-old.


More Money??? For what? Being bad at baseball? His defense slipped last year, his power slipped last year, his speed didn't slip it flat out broke, he doesn't draw walks, he has horrid K:BB rates, so what redeeming qualities does he have that he actually thinks he deserves a raise? The Reds are smart to be trading him, addition by subtraction, biggest joke in MLB and a prime example of what is wrong with sports today with all the greed.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 07:02 AM

Agree with everything said here. The biggest concern for me is that the Reds seem intent on dealing him although they really have no viable replacment for him at 2B. Either they feel his skills are declining so rapidly and/or he's such a distraction in the clubhouse. Either way, huge red flags.

Also, just read in the NY papers that once Phillip's agents got wind that the Yankees might be interested in him they quickly added him to their 12 team no-trade list. And that he wants an extension in any possible trade to the Yankees. Cashman isn't the best GM out there but he's not stupid, Phillips and his agents seem to be really overplaying the small hand they have.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:45 AM

I doubt he or his agents are allowed to keep changing the 12 team list long after the contract was signed.
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:19 PM

I doubt he or his agents are allowed to keep changing the 12 team list long after the contract was signed.


http://nypost.com/20...-helps-yankees/

I'm pretty sure I heard this before on different contracts. I'm guessing NTCs vary from player to player, and if/when you can choose what teams are on it.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 11:53 AM

any news on this cat?
what are some projections on him for 2014?

nobody is talking about the 2B that racked up 103 RBI's

Edited by The Harsh, 18 March 2014 - 12:01 PM.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:24 PM

Just listened to a radio interview of phillips. Not an owner but thought id share.

Claims he hasn't had the green light to steal in years, but all systems go in 2014. Also thinks he's hitting in the 2 hole
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:40 PM

Just listened to a radio interview of phillips. Not an owner but thought id share.

Claims he hasn't had the green light to steal in years, but all systems go in 2014. Also thinks he's hitting in the 2 hole


I thought him and Dusty were homies?

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 08:34 PM

Just listened to a radio interview of phillips. Not an owner but thought id share.

Claims he hasn't had the green light to steal in years, but all systems go in 2014. Also thinks he's hitting in the 2 hole


This is good news. As a Reds fan I have been saying to myself for a few years now that "Phillips sure has turned into a statue on the basepaths". If this is true it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing this.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 10:15 PM

If he slips below 150 he's worth consideration.

He's a year older and who knows if running more-IF what he claims is true-is actually a good thing.

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 01:31 PM

Oblique strain? sure looks like it. check swing 1B.

be interesting to see if he continues

Edited by bbythepier, 18 April 2014 - 01:32 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 01:35 PM

Oblique strain? sure looks like it. check swing 1B.

be interesting to see if he continues


He's on 2nd base. Am I missing something?

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 01:37 PM


Oblique strain? sure looks like it. check swing 1B.

be interesting to see if he continues


He's on 2nd base. Am I missing something?


He took a minute in discomfort after a swing. Toughed out a weak swing single, kind of ran funny. My question: Can he take another AB? we'll see.

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:10 PM

He's back.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:14 PM

He's back.


He gone. Seriously, out of the game.

Never question my WebMD authority.

Edited by bbythepier, 18 April 2014 - 02:15 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:16 PM


He's back.


He gone. Seriously, out of the game.

Never question my WebMD authority.


He took a second at bat. After that they replaced him at 2B. Hope it's nothing serious.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

was so stupid that price didn't take him out during the first at bat.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:36 PM

He barely could move on the field...He will at least miss a couple of games I would think.
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Posted 18 April 2014 - 02:43 PM

Back spasms. Removed as a precaution.
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