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#1 JJ954

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:03 PM

Any veterans that had bad years this year you guys see having a bounce back season next year and plan on taking a flyer on them next year?

Ill throw out a few names.

Adam LaRoche
Jimmy Rollins
Marco Scutaro
Adam Dunn
A.J. Pierzynski
Ichiro Suzuki
Michael Young
Marlon Byrd (I know he had a good year, But do you think he will carry it into next year?)

A few names that arnt to old but had horrid seasons

Dan Uggla
Alcides Escobar
Miguel Montero
Yonder Alonso

I know this is a boring thread but these guys could be a key part to a fantasy teams run next season like Torri Hunter and Marlon Byrd were this year.

Thoughts?

Edited by JJ954, 20 October 2013 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 01:48 PM

Corey Hart.

Not old vets but younger injured pitchers like Brandon Beachy and Danny Duffy.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:01 PM

Josh Reddick probably a good buy low candidate next year.
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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:24 PM

Matt Cain
Cole Hamels
Justin Verlander
Josh Johnson
R.A. Dickey
CC Sabathia
Tim Lincecum
Cory Luebke
Johnny Cueto
Yovani Gallardo
Dan Haren

Buster Posey

Prince Fielder
Ryan Howard
Mark Teixeira
Billy Butler

Ian Kinsler
Aaron Hill

Jose Reyes
Starlin Castro

Aramis Ramirez
Chase Headley

Ryan Braun
Giancarlo Stanton
Curtis Granderson
Matt Kemp
Jason Heyward

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:31 PM

View PostPosting In The Clutch, on 20 October 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Matt Cain
Cole Hamels
Justin Verlander
Josh Johnson
R.A. Dickey
CC Sabathia

Buster Posey

Prince Fielder
Ryan Howard
Mark Teixeira
Billy Butler

Ian Kinsler
Aaron Hill

Jose Reyes
Starlin Castro

Aramis Ramirez
Chase Headley

Ryan Braun
Giancarlo Stanton
Curtis Granderson
Matt Kemp
Jason Heyward

pretty much all those guys are gonna still be taken fairly early, But I like the Aram pick, he may be a solid late rd pick. But the rest are big names that had ok seasons or young players who didnt live up to the hype.

Edited by The Harsh, 20 October 2013 - 03:20 PM.
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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:32 PM

View PostHellgrammite, on 20 October 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

Josh Reddick probably a good buy low candidate next year.
I agree, i could see him come back and hit 20-30HR, and I think he will fall alot in ADP next year.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostThe Big Bat Theory, on 20 October 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Corey Hart.

Not old vets but younger injured pitchers like Brandon Beachy and Danny Duffy.
True, despite hes gonna be a huge risk/reward with his injuries, seems like the guy gives you a month or 2 and then gets hurt. If he stays healthy he would be great value, same as Carlos Quentin

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

View PostJJ954, on 20 October 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Any veterans that had bad years this year you guys see having a bounce back season next year and plan on taking a flyer on them next year?

Ill throw out a few names.

Adam LaRoche
Jimmy Rollins
Marco Scutaro
Adam Dunn
A.J. Pierzynski
Ichiro Suzuki
Michael Young
Marlon Byrd (I know he had a good year, But do you think he will carry it into next year?)

A few names that arnt to old but had horrid seasons

Dan Uggla
Alcides Escobar
Miguel Montero
Yonder Alonso

I know this is a boring thread but these guys could be a key part to a fantasy teams run next season like Torri Hunter and Marlon Byrd were this year.

Thoughts?

Maybe Alcides and Yonder, the rest no thanks
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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:39 PM

View Post2ndCitySox, on 20 October 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostJJ954, on 20 October 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Any veterans that had bad years this year you guys see having a bounce back season next year and plan on taking a flyer on them next year?

Ill throw out a few names.

Adam LaRoche
Jimmy Rollins
Marco Scutaro
Adam Dunn
A.J. Pierzynski
Ichiro Suzuki
Michael Young
Marlon Byrd (I know he had a good year, But do you think he will carry it into next year?)

A few names that arnt to old but had horrid seasons

Dan Uggla
Alcides Escobar
Miguel Montero
Yonder Alonso

I know this is a boring thread but these guys could be a key part to a fantasy teams run next season like Torri Hunter and Marlon Byrd were this year.

Thoughts?

Maybe Alcides and Yonder, the rest no thanks

I agree, no thanks to most of those.  However, one interesting name is Justin Morneau.  He didn't do much once he was traded to the Bucs, but there was a rotoworld blurb earlier today saying that he is being targeted by the Rockies.  If he lands in CO he makes for an interesting late round pick as hitting in the thin Denver air could revitalize his career.
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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:39 PM

View PostPosting In The Clutch, on 20 October 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Matt Cain
Cole Hamels
Justin Verlander
Josh Johnson
R.A. Dickey
CC Sabathia
Tim Lincecum
Cory Luebke
Johnny Cueto
Yovani Gallardo
Dan Haren

Buster Posey

Prince Fielder
Ryan Howard
Mark Teixeira
Billy Butler

Ian Kinsler
Aaron Hill

Jose Reyes
Starlin Castro

Aramis Ramirez
Chase Headley

Ryan Braun
Giancarlo Stanton
Curtis Granderson
Matt Kemp
Jason Heyward

Are you just going to list everyone drafted in the top 100 last year who underperformed their draft spot?  Thanks for the insight.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:44 PM

View PostMNapoli, on 20 October 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

View PostPosting In The Clutch, on 20 October 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Matt Cain
Cole Hamels
Justin Verlander
Josh Johnson
R.A. Dickey
CC Sabathia
Tim Lincecum
Cory Luebke
Johnny Cueto
Yovani Gallardo
Dan Haren

Buster Posey

Prince Fielder
Ryan Howard
Mark Teixeira
Billy Butler

Ian Kinsler
Aaron Hill

Jose Reyes
Starlin Castro

Aramis Ramirez
Chase Headley

Ryan Braun
Giancarlo Stanton
Curtis Granderson
Matt Kemp
Jason Heyward

Are you just going to list everyone drafted in the top 100 last year who underperformed their draft spot?  Thanks for the insight.

Since you're so knowledgeable give us some of your own insight... or don't you have any?

Edited by Posting In The Clutch, 20 October 2013 - 09:45 PM.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:12 AM

As far as Dunn goes, I'm not sure it gets better than 2013
Hit .219 with 34 HRs and 86 RBI

Not sure how much bounce is left

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 06:36 AM

View PostGumbo_Ghost, on 21 October 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

As far as Dunn goes, I'm not sure it gets better than 2013
Hit .219 with 34 HRs and 86 RBI

Not sure how much bounce is left

Yeah, Dunn is what he is.

Think AJ is the same.

Edited by sunnyside, 21 October 2013 - 06:37 AM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 06:40 AM

View PostJJ954, on 20 October 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Any veterans that had bad years this year you guys see having a bounce back season next year and plan on taking a flyer on them next year?

Ill throw out a few names.

Adam LaRoche
Jimmy Rollins
Marco Scutaro
Adam Dunn
A.J. Pierzynski
Ichiro Suzuki
Michael Young
Marlon Byrd (I know he had a good year, But do you think he will carry it into next year?)

A few names that arnt to old but had horrid seasons

Dan Uggla
Alcides Escobar
Miguel Montero
Yonder Alonso

I know this is a boring thread but these guys could be a key part to a fantasy teams run next season like Torri Hunter and Marlon Byrd were this year.

Thoughts?

Just commenting on the AL guys: Escobar has the job in KC and no one is pushing him, so he might be worth a gamble a third/4th infielder.  Ichiro probably won't play enough to be very relevant, although his speed will be handy to have around if needed.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 06:53 AM

From the Yanks, I like Tex and Grandy to bounce back.  Not optimistic about CC and Jeter, at least to their past levels.  Not optimistic at all about Ichiro.

Don't like Middlebrooks in Boston.

Jennings could be undervalued coming out of Tampa.

Don't like Hammel or Jim Johnson (figure even little Bucky will get tired of him sooner or later) in Baltimore.  Morse will be worth a gamble and will probably be able to be had at a low pick (around 130 or 140 in an AL-only 10 team).

Don't like RA Dickey, but he could be decent at around 100 overall in an AL-only 10 team.  Don't like Josh Johnson at all.  Lawrie could be good around 80-100 in an AL-only 10-team league.  Avoid Melky like the plague.  Think Joey B should be able to stay healthy after missing significant time the last two years.

That's the AL East.  Will do the Central tonight.

Those are the players from the AL East who had down/injured years.  Johnson racked up 50 saves, but he blew 9, which puts him in the underperforming category in my book.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:31 AM

View PostGumbo_Ghost, on 21 October 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

As far as Dunn goes, I'm not sure it gets better than 2013
Hit .219 with 34 HRs and 86 RBI

Not sure how much bounce is left
True, I guess the question with him is if he will even have a spot next year with Abreu there and if he will put up the same numbers as last year.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:33 AM

Pujols can't possibly be as bad as he was last year, the only question is how close he can come to pre-2013 production.  He's a tough dude, and I could see him wanting to prove that he's got something left in the tank.  His 2012 numbers might be within reach.

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:24 AM

Phil Hughes - if he lands in the right spot, maybe SD or maybe SF, in the right setting (out of NY, out of the AL East full of hitters parks and tough line ups) I like him on a bounceback.

Two of the top 15 pitcher types I like for a bounceback are: Verlander and Hamels.  Two Im not so sure about buying: Gallardo and Cain.  Gallardo scares me a little more, he has never been a great whip guy and has relied a lot of being a strikeout pitcher to get him out of tough spots.  Cain, I will wait and see what spring looks like, Ive heard he was injured, etc.

I like Sandoval for a bounceback, lots of motivation there with it being his walk year and all.
Mike Moustakas - Royals have a decent track record of giving their prospects some slack and oppotunity to figure things out, weve seen it with Hosmer and Gordon, I think Moustakas will be good for 25HR in 2014.

Not that they had bad years, but did have low HR years for their owners expectations and I think HR will bounceback a bit for both of these guys after career low HR to FB%: Prince Fielder and Dustin Pedroia

Two Marlins who had seasons to forget I like next year: Stanton and LoMo, I think Stanton though might still be a little too costly for what I would expect based on his season, I think Heyward will fall into this category too, a guy I like on bounceback who may not provide auction/ADP value.
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Posted 21 October 2013 - 10:55 AM

View Postparrothead, on 21 October 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

Phil Hughes - if he lands in the right spot, maybe SD or maybe SF, in the right setting (out of NY, out of the AL East full of hitters parks and tough line ups) I like him on a bounceback.

Two of the top 15 pitcher types I like for a bounceback are: Verlander and Hamels.  Two Im not so sure about buying: Gallardo and Cain.  Gallardo scares me a little more, he has never been a great whip guy and has relied a lot of being a strikeout pitcher to get him out of tough spots.  Cain, I will wait and see what spring looks like, Ive heard he was injured, etc.

I like Sandoval for a bounceback, lots of motivation there with it being his walk year and all.
Mike Moustakas - Royals have a decent track record of giving their prospects some slack and oppotunity to figure things out, weve seen it with Hosmer and Gordon, I think Moustakas will be good for 25HR in 2014.

Not that they had bad years, but did have low HR years for their owners expectations and I think HR will bounceback a bit for both of these guys after career low HR to FB%: Prince Fielder and Dustin Pedroia

Two Marlins who had seasons to forget I like next year: Stanton and LoMo, I think Stanton though might still be a little too costly for what I would expect based on his season, I think Heyward will fall into this category too, a guy I like on bounceback who may not provide auction/ADP value.
Great list and explanations, I forgot about Lomo and Hughes and yes I totally agree with that. If he were to land in SD that would make him a great add. Great list sir

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostFloor Pie, on 21 October 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

Pujols can't possibly be as bad as he was last year, the only question is how close he can come to pre-2013 production.  He's a tough dude, and I could see him wanting to prove that he's got something left in the tank.  His 2012 numbers might be within reach.

Honestly I think he could be worse than he was last year.  That foot problem NEVER goes away.  He will have it the rest of his life.  And wanting to prove there is something left in the tank doesn't mean there is anything left in the tank.  On top of that people will draft him because he was a big name.  Or is still a big name to them anyway.  Which means he will be taken way too high in drafts for me to even remotely consider him.

Having said that, I wish him well in real life.  But i don't really expect anything out of him next year.  And with the tons of good 1B available in fantasy baseball, I just dont think he is worth the risk of drafting until later rounds.  But there is always someone who drafts on name value and doesn't understand the nature of his foot problem so he won't be around later in the draft.




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