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Yu Darvish 2014 Outlook


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:28 PM

Darvish took his game to another level in 2013. Where do we see him being drafted in 2014? Late 2nd round? Earlier?

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:24 PM

His walks and the fact that he still nibbles a fair amount concerns me, and pitchers that do that have even enhanced injury risks, but what pitcher isn't a red flag? If this guy makes 32 starts, he's the leading candidate for Cy Young, simple as that. He got unlucky with wins this year, and that could easily jump to 18 next year to go along with sub-3.00 era and 250+ k's. He's also going to be among the league leaders in bad puns used by owners that involve his name.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:40 AM

My tentative top ten AL only: Trout, Miggy, Jones, Cano, Beltre, Davis, Fielder, Darvish, Scherzer, Verlander.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:29 PM

Darvish took his game to another level in 2013. Where do we see him being drafted in 2014? Late 2nd round? Earlier?


I have taken part in two slow mock drafts. In the first draft, he was selected with the first pick in the third round. In the second draft, he was taken with the 14th overall pick.
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:48 PM

Darvish is a round 2-3 guy. Although this year there seems to be a gluttony of mid round pitchers while last year I thought this are was very weak (had a strategy of targeting Kershaw in the first round). This year I'll be waiting on pitchers.
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:44 PM

Not looking to set off any alarms but I found this:

http://www.sportsone...-an-injury-risk

I will say that the low zone %, high walk total (all though it did improve) and high slider usage had me worried on my own before I saw an article actually detailing those problems. Darvish does seem well built and young though, so I guess take this with a grain of salt. All pitchers are huge risks, take this with a grain of salt, just thought I'd share since it is pretty interesting.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:22 PM

I'm one of the biggest Darvish fans you'll meet but I don't think he will finish as a top 5 pitcher for the simple fact that he no longer has A.J. Pierzynski behind the plate. A.J. knows how to call a game and the effect a great game caller has on a pitcher can go overlooked. I still think he will be an elite ace but I'm fully prepared for him to have his worst year in the MLB.

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 11:51 PM

I'm one of the biggest Darvish fans you'll meet but I don't think he will finish as a top 5 pitcher for the simple fact that he no longer has A.J. Pierzynski behind the plate. A.J. knows how to call a game and the effect a great game caller has on a pitcher can go overlooked. I still think he will be an elite ace but I'm fully prepared for him to have his worst year in the MLB.


Even though he caught fire at the end of the year, he had a 3.90 era and 1.28 whip his rookie year. I highly doubt he is worse than that.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:20 AM

I'm one of the biggest Darvish fans you'll meet but I don't think he will finish as a top 5 pitcher for the simple fact that he no longer has A.J. Pierzynski behind the plate. A.J. knows how to call a game and the effect a great game caller has on a pitcher can go overlooked. I still think he will be an elite ace but I'm fully prepared for him to have his worst year in the MLB.


Yu's prospects will have little to do with AJP. He hated when AJP caught him which came to a head when they had words in early September. AJP didn't catch Yu again the rest of the year. Soto was Yu's personal catcher most of last season and will be again this year....

Darivsh has a 2.68 ERA with a .191 opponents batting average in 1542/3 career innings with Soto. He has a 3.76 ERA with a .216 opponents batting average with all other catchers.


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:11 AM

Thank you for correcting me. Those statistics make me a lot more optimistic.
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C - Evan Gattis

1B - Victor Martinez, Billy Butler

2B - Neil Walker, Chase Utley

3B - Josh Harrison

SS - Jose Reyes, Jed Lowrie

OF - Mike Trout

OF - Ryan Braun

OF - Nelson Cruz

Util - Christian Yelich

Util - Melky Cabrera

 

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 08:23 AM

Just checking in on Yu. Has he been working on some things in spring? only 8 Ks in 14 IP.
10-team 5x5 roto redraft league | big roster | no IP limit

C[2] -- Perez, Mesoraco
1B ---- Moss, Abreu
2B ---- Pedroia
SS ---- Escobar, Zobrist
3B ---- Frazier, A-Ram
MI ----- Villar
CI -----
OF[5] - Trout, Stanton, Werth, Morse, Melky, Heyward, Revere
P[9] --- Cueto, Wacha, Verlander, Minor, Estrada, Ross, Beckett, Keuchel, Roark, Skaggs
---------- A. Wood
RIP ---- Jose Fernandez

The other teams is just one long disabled list.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 09:32 AM

doesnt he usually do this?

i feel like when the season gets going he gets his k's going?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 09:48 AM

i looked it up, but nope: 2012 - 15IP, 21K, 2013 - 13.2IP, 15K
and then 91K in 71.2 April innings...

But he could easily make up the difference in the next start, just wondering if there's been any excuse given after the first few starts.
10-team 5x5 roto redraft league | big roster | no IP limit

C[2] -- Perez, Mesoraco
1B ---- Moss, Abreu
2B ---- Pedroia
SS ---- Escobar, Zobrist
3B ---- Frazier, A-Ram
MI ----- Villar
CI -----
OF[5] - Trout, Stanton, Werth, Morse, Melky, Heyward, Revere
P[9] --- Cueto, Wacha, Verlander, Minor, Estrada, Ross, Beckett, Keuchel, Roark, Skaggs
---------- A. Wood
RIP ---- Jose Fernandez

The other teams is just one long disabled list.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

when your wrong your wrong i guess

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PG: Lillard, Rondo, Lawson, Stuckey

Sg: Jamal Craw, Bradley, Shump, Wesley

SF: JSmoov,

PF: Ibaka, lee, McBob, Sanders,

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 12:00 PM


I'm one of the biggest Darvish fans you'll meet but I don't think he will finish as a top 5 pitcher for the simple fact that he no longer has A.J. Pierzynski behind the plate. A.J. knows how to call a game and the effect a great game caller has on a pitcher can go overlooked. I still think he will be an elite ace but I'm fully prepared for him to have his worst year in the MLB.


Yu's prospects will have little to do with AJP. He hated when AJP caught him which came to a head when they had words in early September. AJP didn't catch Yu again the rest of the year. Soto was Yu's personal catcher most of last season and will be again this year....

Darivsh has a 2.68 ERA with a .191 opponents batting average in 1542/3 career innings with Soto. He has a 3.76 ERA with a .216 opponents batting average with all other catchers.


now that Soto is out (12 weeks) it will be interesting to see what affect (if any) it has on Darvish.
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1B - Mark Trumbo
2B - Neil Walker
3B - David Wright/Will Middlebrooks
SS - Danny Santana
C - Buster Posey
OF - Mike Trout
OF - Jorge Soler
OF - Matt Kemp
OF - Billy Hamilton
OF - Jorge Soler

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UTIL - Gregory Polanco
UTIL - Brandon Moss



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RP - Allen, Ottavino, Rondon, Grilli, Boxberger


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 12:41 PM

now that Soto is out (12 weeks) it will be interesting to see what affect (if any) it has on Darvish.


Agreed. At first I was discouraged when Pierzynski left but after reading those stats I'm even more discouraged now. I really hope this will be just a small bump in Darvish's road to the Cy Young. I guess we won't know for sure until we see him actually pitch.

Speaking of which, Yu was scratched from his last spring training start due to a sore neck, right? Does anyone know when his next, and I assume final, tune up start will be?

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2B - Neil Walker, Chase Utley

3B - Josh Harrison

SS - Jose Reyes, Jed Lowrie

OF - Mike Trout

OF - Ryan Braun

OF - Nelson Cruz

Util - Christian Yelich

Util - Melky Cabrera

 

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Posted 24 March 2014 - 02:36 PM

Yu Darvish made it through a game of catch on Monday but is still battling soreness in his neck.
Darvish woke up with the soreness on Thursday and had to be scratched from a scheduled minor league start on Friday. The Rangers are now considering using a different starter for Opening Day and pushing Darvish back a week or so. This shouldn't affect his fantasy stock. Mar 24 - 3:14 PM

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 12:14 PM

ESPN confirmed Darvish won't start Opening Day, "raising the possibility that he starts the season on the disabled list."

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1B - Freddie Freeman
2B - Robinson Cano (k)
3B - Nolan Arenado
SS - Xander Bogaerts
OF - Justin Upton (k)
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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:50 PM

Heading back to Texas to see a back and neck specialist.....

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:19 PM

Crapola....Just traded for him, was all excited about owning him. I suspect its not serious but nonetheless, not good news. Any inside info on how long he will be out. Neck/Back pain can be so many things so its wide open to missing a start to much more serious.




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