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Andre Holmes 2013 OutlookMore like 2014 outlook but hey, we can talk upside


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#1 CL3VELANDBR0WNS

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 09:50 PM

Post your thoughts here.

Andre Holmes caught seven balls for 136 yards in the Raiders' Week 13 loss to the Cowboys.

Holmes has long been an impressive practice squad player at 6-foot-4, 210 with 4.45 wheels. On Thursday evening, he translated those tools and enhanced opportunity with Denarius Moore (shoulder) inactive into a monster game, leading every player on either side in receiving. Holmes is a 25-year-old Dynasty prospect with upside. In re-draft, he's only worth rostering in 16-team leagues.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 09:52 PM

Matt MyGroin. Nuff said.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 09:55 PM

7/136 . Nuff said.
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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:06 PM

The first pass he caught, I thought to myself "Holmes, I've never heard of that tight end".  I had to look up his name and realized he was a WR.  Dude is HUGE on the field.  Looked like a man among boys out there.  Intriging dynasty prospect but I'd like to see more.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:08 PM

Let's remember the Cowboys are the same defense that gives up over 300 yards passing a game.
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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:24 PM

 scienergy, on 28 November 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

The first pass he caught, I thought to myself "Holmes, I've never heard of that tight end".  I had to look up his name and realized he was a WR.  Dude is HUGE on the field.  Looked like a man among boys out there.  Intriging dynasty prospect but I'd like to see more.

For those of you who are in keepers/dynasty leagues and out of playoff contention, I would pick him up if you have someone expendable.  There's still a couple of weeks to see how they utilize him for ROS.  If he continues to produce, hey you just got yourself a cheap WR.  If not, then you dump him.  No loss.

I'd even recommend him to those that are in deep leagues and in the playoffs (only if you have someone droppable).

He could emerge as oakland's #2 and has major upside here.  MASSIVE TARGET + SPEED + HANDS = GOLD
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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:48 PM

He looked good, made tough catches but a lot of times you see these guys come on strong for a week or two, never to be heard from again. If he gets looks the next week or two, he could be someone to really look out for.
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:03 AM

He's a Raiders WR. That's all I need to know.

It doesn't mean I think he's bad. They have some talented guys out there. They're just so very unpredictable. Even Moore can completely disappear for several games.
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:05 AM

Long, lanky and athletic. Looks like the protypical wide out these days. Lets keep this in perspective tho it is the cowboys secondary as another poster said. Worth a speculative add if u got the space
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:14 AM

I question his usage when Moore comes back since he is filling in for him. And surprised he wasn't drafted being 6 foot 4 with 4.4+ speed. Why wouldn't he have been?

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:06 AM

He played in Div 2 in college which is why he wasnt drafted.

Or at least that is what they want you to think.   I think he is a clone made up of spliced genes from Andre Johnson and Santonio Holmes and that his purpose in life is to prove WRs can excel with bad QBs.

Edited by Iron-cock, 29 November 2013 - 10:07 AM.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 05:15 PM

So which speculative add is better?

Him?
Hunter?
Goodwin?
Rishard Matthews?
Patterson?

All are coming along and finding chemistry with their QB... Hard to add em all.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 06:02 PM

hunter>patterson>goodwin>rest imo

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 07:55 PM

Is Denarius Moore an FA this offseason? He will surely go somewhere besides Oakland, right?
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:50 AM

Might have to give this kid a look for juicy week 16 matchup @SD.  SD ranks 28th vs. the pass allowing 270 YPG.  Kid's athletic and has great size and speed.  Upside IMO and he has great rapport with McCloin it appears.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:58 AM

 jtbgator, on 04 December 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

Might have to give this kid a look for juicy week 16 matchup @SD.  SD ranks 28th vs. the pass allowing 270 YPG.  Kid's athletic and has great size and speed.  Upside IMO and he has great rapport with McCloin it appears.

I don't think there's any way I could trust him once Denarius is back, which he almost certainly will be by week 16. Brad Evans is touting him for this weekend if Denarius remains out, which means Holmes is doomed to fail.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:59 AM

When is Moore back?
Team A 12 Team 1PPR (0-0)
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RB:  Zac Stacy, Pierre Thomas
WR:  Calvin Johnson, AJ Green

FLEX:  Kelvin Benjamin
TE:  Kyle Rudolph
K:  Matt Bryant
D/ST:  Cleveland

Bench:  Eli Manning, Riley Cooper, Darren McFadden, Carlos Hyde, Robert Turbin, Dexter McCluster

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RB:  Zac Stacy, Pierre Thomas
WR:  Calvin Johnson, AJ Green

FLEX:  Kelvin Benjamin
TE:  Kyle Rudolph
K:  Matt Bryant
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:00 PM

 jtbgator, on 04 December 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

When is Moore back?

Seriously. I haven't heard a peep on this guy.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:02 PM

 Mek Daddy, on 04 December 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

 jtbgator, on 04 December 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

When is Moore back?

Seriously. I haven't heard a peep on this guy.

I know...starting to wonder
Team A 12 Team 1PPR (0-0)
QB:  Cam Newton
RB:  Zac Stacy, Pierre Thomas
WR:  Calvin Johnson, AJ Green

FLEX:  Kelvin Benjamin
TE:  Kyle Rudolph
K:  Matt Bryant
D/ST:  Cleveland

Bench:  Eli Manning, Riley Cooper, Darren McFadden, Carlos Hyde, Robert Turbin, Dexter McCluster

Team B 12 Team .5PPR (0-0)
QB:  Cam Newton
RB:  Zac Stacy, Pierre Thomas
WR:  Calvin Johnson, AJ Green

FLEX:  Kelvin Benjamin
TE:  Kyle Rudolph
K:  Matt Bryant
D/ST:  Cleveland

Bench:  Eli Manning, Riley Cooper, Darren McFadden, Carlos Hyde, Robert Turbin, Dexter McCluster

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:07 PM

 jtbgator, on 04 December 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

Might have to give this kid a look for juicy week 16 matchup @SD.  SD ranks 28th vs. the pass allowing 270 YPG.  Kid's athletic and has great size and speed.  Upside IMO and he has great rapport with McCloin it appears.

That's also what they said about Rod Streater. It's the main reason why Streater got touted as a WR3 last week.

I find it hard to trust Oakland WR's. I had Moore on my roster for a while but then he went completely MIA for several games in a row. I like McGloin much more as a passing QB than Pryor but still. I need to see consistency until I can trust them. I'll be more of a believer if he puts up nice numbers again this week.
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