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Matt Joyce 2014 Outlook


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#1 ssmarsh

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 09:10 AM

Matt Joyce has gained almost 20 pounds this offseason in hopes he'll have more power and will stay stronger throughout the season.
"I think that in itself is going to help," Joyce told the Tampa Bay Times. "Everything looked great last year, but I felt a little weaker." Joyce started last season strong, hitting 14 home runs through June 15, but went on to hit just four over a dismal second half. He'll likely serve as the Rays' everyday DH next season.


Interesting. If he's getting everyday AB's, is he worth a keep?
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#2 RotoRaysfan

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 09:29 AM

He'll live and die with his ability to fix his platoon splits. His 2H fade was clearly a part due to fatigue, but I think at age 29, he is what he is - a RH masher, who clearly understands how to crush them. The nice part is that is he on the high end of any platoon. But, I don't know if he'll sniff 500 PA's - as long as Sean Rodriguez (the mirror version of Joyce) is on the team, you'll see him sit against most LHP's (BOS - that's Lester & maybe Doubront, NYY - Sabathia, TOR - Buerhle & Happ, BAL - Chen). In the AL, about 1/4 or more of the starters are LHP's, so it does put a very clear cap on his ceiling.

Honestly, he's someone you fill at the end of most rosters in AL-only leagues or 16+-league rosters, IMO. Probably doesn't even sniff mixed-league drafts because of the limit of his max PA's, and his platoon splits. Reminds me a lot of Seth Smith fantasy-wise (great for daily league adds, but hard to count on for weekly lineups, and tough to justify a spot on benches in mixed leagues).

He could return a nice profit on that type of endgame investment, but the cap on his ceiling makes him more of a speculative guy to track for the endgame than anything else.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 07:54 AM

He'll live and die with his ability to fix his platoon splits. His 2H fade was clearly a part due to fatigue, but I think at age 29, he is what he is - a RH masher, who clearly understands how to crush them. The nice part is that is he on the high end of any platoon. But, I don't know if he'll sniff 500 PA's - as long as Sean Rodriguez (the mirror version of Joyce) is on the team, you'll see him sit against most LHP's (BOS - that's Lester & maybe Doubront, NYY - Sabathia, TOR - Buerhle & Happ, BAL - Chen). In the AL, about 1/4 or more of the starters are LHP's, so it does put a very clear cap on his ceiling.

Honestly, he's someone you fill at the end of most rosters in AL-only leagues or 16+-league rosters, IMO. Probably doesn't even sniff mixed-league drafts because of the limit of his max PA's, and his platoon splits. Reminds me a lot of Seth Smith fantasy-wise (great for daily league adds, but hard to count on for weekly lineups, and tough to justify a spot on benches in mixed leagues).

He could return a nice profit on that type of endgame investment, but the cap on his ceiling makes him more of a speculative guy to track for the endgame than anything else.


It's funny that you mention both Joyce and Smith because I had both in my 16-team points league last season. It's a daily league and it's great to have guys with those kind of platoon numbers on your team. Platooning them at my Util position gave me great value per PA.

I agree that he is what he is. He's a platoon player who will only play vs righties but will give you value in those limited PA's because he hits righties so well. He's indeed more a guy for deeper leagues and AL-only. Or someone you pick up when he's hot and you know he'll be facing plenty of righties during a certain stretch. You can drop him afterwards once the lefties come back into play.

Edited by Sine_cera, 20 January 2014 - 07:54 AM.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 11:35 AM

Where does he play? Aren't Zobrist, Myers and Jennings the full time OF now? Will Zobrist be used at 2B again to give Joyce AB's? Will Joyce DH some? Seems to me Myers sealed Joyce's fate of never being anything but a fourth OF now.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:00 PM

Where does he play? Aren't Zobrist, Myers and Jennings the full time OF now? Will Zobrist be used at 2B again to give Joyce AB's? Will Joyce DH some? Seems to me Myers sealed Joyce's fate of never being anything but a fourth OF now.


I expect Zobrist to be the 2B, Joyce the DH and DeJesus playing the OF along with Jennings and Myers.
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 01:02 AM

Brandon Guyer will probably be in the mix as well.
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:33 AM

I don't think Guyer makes the team. Joyce won't get much playing time at all against lefties, Rodriguez will probably play the field and DH will be a revolving door giving the position players a rest.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:29 PM

Quietly mashing. This guy is gold for deeper leagues if you can pay attention and start vs. RHP, bench vs. lefties.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:35 PM

In typical Joyce fashion having a nice April, May's are usually amazin, and then the wheels fall off.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:37 PM

Probably the only #3 hitter in an MLB lineup that isn't universally owned in majority of fantasy leagues.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:53 PM

Joyce is probably the waiver wire all star year after year. Too bad he barely sees the line up when facing a Lefty. Great bench guy to have. Grabbed him during the Gomez suspension.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 11:11 PM

Dude is totally underrated. Just look at this thread.
He has a 1080 OPS... good for 3rd in MLB this year. But only rostered in 15% of yahoo leagues. It is like no one knows who this guy is??
Even his manager doesn't believe him. Benches him against lefties and uses Logan Forsythe?
He put on 20Lb this year.. More muscle = more production...

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 11:14 PM

Yeah I'm really wishing my Tigers had kept this guy around.
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Posted 26 April 2014 - 01:13 AM

I love this guy. 0-0 with 5 BB last night.
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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:04 AM

Picked him up for this week. Batting .063 with 1 rb and 1 run in 16 at bats. Kind of how my luck works
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