Jump to content

Visit Rotoworld.comRotoworld Forums  
Rotoworld: MLB | NFL | NBA | NHL | NASCAR | CFB
Sports Talk Blogs: PFT | HBT | PBT | CFT | PHT
  Visit NBCSports.com

- - - - -

Brian Hoyer 2014 Season OutlookBrady Light, The Browns Savior, Undeafted as Browns Starter


  • Please log in to reply
42 replies to this topic

#1 Gains

Gains

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,872 posts

Posted 22 January 2014 - 07:47 PM

Peyton, Marino, Montanta, Brady, Brees, Young, none are undeafted as starter of their team.

Remember those magic 2.5 games bros?, life was sweet for football both real and fantasy. A Cleveland sports franchise even had hope for brief moment.Poor everything in Cleveland.

Seems like the forgotten man, all the talk of manziel/teddy with the browns. Hoyer is already familiar with the personnel and NFL style play.

Also using Hoyer would free up a spot to draft a top guy like Mattews, Clowney, Barr, or Watkins.

#2 NyMetsfan5

NyMetsfan5

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,963 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New York

Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:48 PM

Strong everything
[size=5]Die hard Ny Giants fan and Ny Knicks fan [/size]


"What do we need anybody for? We have Victor Cruz.”
-Coach Tom Coughlin

NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

President of Matt Harvey Fan club(get well soon) and now an official MANBEARPUIG member   Tee shirts coming soon

#RealDealWheeler

#3 th3ory

th3ory

    Allstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 543 posts

Posted 22 January 2014 - 09:23 PM

View PostGains, on 22 January 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

Peyton, Marino, Montanta, Brady, Brees, Young, none are undeafted as starter of their team.

Remember those magic 2.5 games bros?, life was sweet for football both real and fantasy. A Cleveland sports franchise even had hope for brief moment.Poor everything in Cleveland.

Seems like the forgotten man, all the talk of manziel/teddy with the browns. Hoyer is already familiar with the personnel and NFL style play.

Also using Hoyer would free up a spot to draft a top guy like Mattews, Clowney, Barr, or Watkins.

He'll be 29 early into next season.  Had a meager 82.6 rating in those "magic 2.5 games" and is coming off of a season ending knee injury.  It's pretty obvious why they're looking to draft a QB.

#4 joshua18

joshua18

    Allstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 710 posts

Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:42 PM

If it was the same offensive system, I'd be inclined to just ride Hoyer.  But now that everything will be different, its probably worth drafting a Manziel.

#5 cbe_88

cbe_88

    Superstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,772 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas

Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:41 PM

It is a small sample size, but I do lean towards your side, Gains...It looked like Hoyer had what it took. Seemed pretty legit.

I still think they draft a QB in the first though...but if I were GM I'd love to throw Hoyer the keys and pair Joe Thomas with Jake Matthews

#6 NyMetsfan5

NyMetsfan5

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,963 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New York

Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:55 PM

Cmon guys lets be real. They arent relying on hoyer to be a franchise qb and are going to try and find a permenant fix at the most important position in the game. Id be absolutely shocked if they didnt go manziel.  Hoyer just wont be relevant at seasons start
[size=5]Die hard Ny Giants fan and Ny Knicks fan [/size]


"What do we need anybody for? We have Victor Cruz.”
-Coach Tom Coughlin

NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

President of Matt Harvey Fan club(get well soon) and now an official MANBEARPUIG member   Tee shirts coming soon

#RealDealWheeler

#7 Gains

Gains

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,872 posts

Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:39 AM

known commodity vs highly questionable one (Manziel)

not saying manziel couldn't or will not do good, but he could just as easily be a bust. Last thing browns need it more question marks on their future.

what is wrong with 29?

rodgers to old now?  it is not like hoyer is a 29 near year old rookie like weeden. He has been in the league and was sitting behind brady.

#8 NyMetsfan5

NyMetsfan5

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,963 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New York

Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:23 AM

View PostGains, on 23 January 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

known commodity vs highly questionable one (Manziel)

not saying manziel couldn't or will not do good, but he could just as easily be a bust. Last thing browns need it more question marks on their future.

what is wrong with 29?

rodgers to old now?  it is not like hoyer is a 29 near year old rookie like weeden. He has been in the league and was sitting behind brady.
thats not the point at all. If they go with manziel im willing to bet theyll give him on the job training for the first year rendering hoyer useless. Hows he a known commodity after having 2 good games and then blowing his knee out?  Dont get it
[size=5]Die hard Ny Giants fan and Ny Knicks fan [/size]


"What do we need anybody for? We have Victor Cruz.”
-Coach Tom Coughlin

NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

President of Matt Harvey Fan club(get well soon) and now an official MANBEARPUIG member   Tee shirts coming soon

#RealDealWheeler

#9 Gains

Gains

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,872 posts

Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:34 AM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 23 January 2014 - 01:23 AM, said:

View PostGains, on 23 January 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

known commodity vs highly questionable one (Manziel)

not saying manziel couldn't or will not do good, but he could just as easily be a bust. Last thing browns need it more question marks on their future.

what is wrong with 29?

rodgers to old now?  it is not like hoyer is a 29 near year old rookie like weeden. He has been in the league and was sitting behind brady.
thats not the point at all. If they go with manziel im willing to bet theyll give him on the job training for the first year rendering hoyer useless. Hows he a known commodity after having 2 good games and then blowing his knee out?  Dont get it

multiple year in the NFL,Billy B pay attention to be backups more then anyone else. If hoyer sucked Billy B wouldn't have kept him around that long.

He has NFL experience and did well, he is not known on the level peyton/ryan/cutler is but there are a lot less questions then with manziel who of this year's most question heavy qb.

#10 cbe_88

cbe_88

    Superstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,772 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas

Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:05 AM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 22 January 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Cmon guys lets be real. They arent relying on hoyer to be a franchise qb and are going to try and find a permenant fix at the most important position in the game. Id be absolutely shocked if they didnt go manziel.  Hoyer just wont be relevant at seasons start

I never said they wouldn't draft a QB in the first, as I said, I definitely think they will. I was just saying IF it were ME I'd seriously consider trying to roll with Hoyer who's looked good when given the chance. I personally think Houer has something to offer.

They won't though, I agree. I'm still betting that manziel goes to Cleveland.

#11 ToO_BaD

ToO_BaD

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,625 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:SF GIANTS, Niners, Warriors

Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

View PostGains, on 23 January 2014 - 01:34 AM, said:

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 23 January 2014 - 01:23 AM, said:

View PostGains, on 23 January 2014 - 12:39 AM, said:

known commodity vs highly questionable one (Manziel)

not saying manziel couldn't or will not do good, but he could just as easily be a bust. Last thing browns need it more question marks on their future.

what is wrong with 29?

rodgers to old now?  it is not like hoyer is a 29 near year old rookie like weeden. He has been in the league and was sitting behind brady.
thats not the point at all. If they go with manziel im willing to bet theyll give him on the job training for the first year rendering hoyer useless. Hows he a known commodity after having 2 good games and then blowing his knee out?  Dont get it

multiple year in the NFL,Billy B pay attention to be backups more then anyone else. If hoyer sucked Billy B wouldn't have kept him around that long.

He has NFL experience and did well, he is not known on the level peyton/ryan/cutler is but there are a lot less questions then with manziel who of this year's most question heavy qb.

Dude played in two and a half games!  The sample size is WAY too small to suddenly say he is Cleveland's answer.  Limited experience, new offensive scheme, coming back from a season-ending knee injury.  If two and a half games in a different system is supposed to be the separation point between him and a rookie who would most likely be the face of the franchise, I will take the rookie.
RW Mock Draft Real League: 14-team, 0.5 PPR, 6pt all TDs

QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Matt Forte, Trent Richardson,
DeAngelo Williams, Stepfan Taylor, Shaun Draughn
WR: Pierre Garçon, Larry Fitzgerald, Kelvin Benjamin, Allen Robinson
W/R/T: T.Y. Hilton, Mike Evans
TE: Vernon Davis,
Antonio Gates
DEF: Denver D/ST
K: Stephen Gostkowski


Any Given Pick League (Friends): 11-team non-PPR, Running point total, 10pt all TDs, 10 point bonus at 100 yds rush/rec or 300 yards passing, Can keep up to three players drafted 9th round or later for 4 years after draft (* = keepers prior to draft)

QB: Nick Foles
RB: Eddie Lacy, Arian Foster, Lamar Miller, Fred Jackson*, Terrance West
WR: Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones*, Cordarelle Patterson, Justin Hunter, Josh Gordon*
Flex: Percy Harvin
TE: Kyle Rudolph
DEF: Cincy D/ST
K: Crosby

#12 SenatorSpaceman

SenatorSpaceman

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,661 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NYC

Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:29 PM

How can people be calling this guy a "known commodity"? Dude may or may not be the real deal. I can't say for sure, but let's keep this in perspective.

He looked great in those TWO games but A LOT of mediocre to bad QBs have looked like All Pros in two game spans.

If Cleveland doesn't draft a QB, I see them bringing in a vet to compete with Hoyer. Maybe someone like Vick but probably more like McCown or Henne. Again, that's only if they choose not to go QB in round one of the draft.

#13 Gains

Gains

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,872 posts

Posted 26 January 2014 - 02:13 AM



The Browns are expected to pay Brian Hoyer's $250,000 roster bonus on March 15.

It confirms that Hoyer will be back with the Browns next season, likely to compete with a draft pick for the starting job wipe the floor with the foolish mortals that wish to bother him on his path to Football god-ness. His recovery from October ACL surgery is reportedly "going well." Barring any setbacks, Hoyer should be ready for the start of training camp.



good news, back and ready for camp.


#14 th3ory

th3ory

    Allstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 543 posts

Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:33 PM

Of course they're going to bring him back - he barely makes anything and a $250K bonus is nothing to NFL execs.

#15 Gains

Gains

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,872 posts

Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:18 PM

Heeeeeeeeeeee's baaaaaaaack

Participating in otas, top of the depth chart, best skills then those punks in the draft.

Draft Watkins and look out.

Only the browns could be stupid enough to mess this up.

Inb4 they draft some loser QB who is NOT undeafted last year

#16 ToO_BaD

ToO_BaD

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,625 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:SF GIANTS, Niners, Warriors

Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:29 AM

View PostGains, on 29 April 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

Heeeeeeeeeeee's baaaaaaaack

Participating in otas, top of the depth chart, best skills then those punks in the draft.

Draft Watkins and look out.

Only the browns could be stupid enough to mess this up.

Inb4 they draft some loser QB who is NOT undeafted last year

Uh oh he beat out Tanney, look out for the second coming of Christ.  Gains just trolling this thread.
RW Mock Draft Real League: 14-team, 0.5 PPR, 6pt all TDs

QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Matt Forte, Trent Richardson,
DeAngelo Williams, Stepfan Taylor, Shaun Draughn
WR: Pierre Garçon, Larry Fitzgerald, Kelvin Benjamin, Allen Robinson
W/R/T: T.Y. Hilton, Mike Evans
TE: Vernon Davis,
Antonio Gates
DEF: Denver D/ST
K: Stephen Gostkowski


Any Given Pick League (Friends): 11-team non-PPR, Running point total, 10pt all TDs, 10 point bonus at 100 yds rush/rec or 300 yards passing, Can keep up to three players drafted 9th round or later for 4 years after draft (* = keepers prior to draft)

QB: Nick Foles
RB: Eddie Lacy, Arian Foster, Lamar Miller, Fred Jackson*, Terrance West
WR: Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones*, Cordarelle Patterson, Justin Hunter, Josh Gordon*
Flex: Percy Harvin
TE: Kyle Rudolph
DEF: Cincy D/ST
K: Crosby

#17 Gains

Gains

    On the Ballot

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,872 posts

Posted 01 May 2014 - 01:05 PM

View PostToO_BaD, on 30 April 2014 - 09:29 AM, said:

View PostGains, on 29 April 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

Heeeeeeeeeeee's baaaaaaaack

Participating in otas, top of the depth chart, best skills then those punks in the draft.

Draft Watkins and look out.

Only the browns could be stupid enough to mess this up.

Inb4 they draft some loser QB who is NOT undeafted last year

look out for the second coming of Christ.  

Jesus must have shaved gotten pale and changed his name to Brian

#18 pikerbkb

pikerbkb

    Allstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 843 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:So Cal

Posted 01 May 2014 - 03:09 PM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 22 January 2014 - 11:55 PM, said:

Cmon guys lets be real. They arent relying on hoyer to be a franchise qb and are going to try and find a permenant fix at the most important position in the game. Id be absolutely shocked if they didnt go manziel.  Hoyer just wont be relevant at seasons start
The pick at 1.04 is Manziel unless some team offers a treasure trove of picks/players. Hoyer is Plan B.
Tom Brady
Arian Foster
Stevan Ridley
Eddie Lacy
Zac Stacy
Ben Tate
Da'Dick Rodgers
Josh Gordon
Marcus Wheaton
Nuk
Ladarius Green



Dynasty non-ppr
12 Team
24 player roster
No position limits

#19 Robrain

Robrain

    Hall of Famer

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,415 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 01 May 2014 - 06:59 PM

Plus if this guy goes down, they've got trick-shot QB Alex Tanney backing him up.  The potential for an awesome in-season storyline is off the charts.

Then again, it's the Browns, so the potential for a reeeeeeeeeeediculous in-season storyline is also off the charts.
2014 Rotoworld Mock Draft Real League - 14-Team 0.5 PPR + ALL TDs = 6PTs:

_____STARTING LINEUP_______________.............._____BENCH_______________________
QB : Matthew Stafford.......(03.13)............. WR - Josh Gordon..........(09.13)
RB1: Montee Ball............(01.13)............. WR - Brian Quick..........(14.08)
RB2: Toby Gerhart...........(02.02)............. WR - Jeff Janis...........(UD.FA)
WR1: Tavon Austin...........(10.02)............. RB - Shonn Greene.........(UD.FA)
WR2: John Brown.............(UD.FA)............. RB - LeGarrette Blount....(09.06)
TE : Kyle Rudolph...........(06.02)............. RB - Jonathan Grimes......(UD.FA)
FLEX1: Steven Jackson.......(04.02)............. RB - Theo Riddick.........(15.13)
FLEX2: Arian Foster.........(01.11)............. RB - Lorezno Taliaferro...(16.02)

#20 Alfonz289

Alfonz289

    Superstar

  • Established Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,183 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Pittsburgh

Posted 01 May 2014 - 07:54 PM

View PostRobrain, on 01 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Plus if this guy goes down, they've got trick-shot QB Alex Tanney backing him up.  The potential for an awesome in-season storyline is off the charts.

Then again, it's the Browns, so the potential for a reeeeeeeeeeediculous in-season storyline is also off the charts.

Rag on the Browns all you want, they still look like geniuses for that Trent trade.  Dude couldn't find a hole to save his life.
2014 Fantasy Football 12 Team Dynasty League 0.5 PPR All TD's 6pts IDP (2DL, 2LB, 2DB)

QB's-Jay Cutler
RB's-Adrian Peterson, C.J. Spiller, Zac Stacy, Christine Michael, Marcus Lattimore, Jerrick McKinnon
WR's-Dez Bryant, Josh Gordon, Michael Floyd, Keenan Allen, Justin Hunter, Sammy Watkins, Jermaine Kearse
TE's-Julius Thomas
K's-Steven Hauschka
DL's-Ziggy Ansah, Chandler Jones
LB's-Bobby Wagner, Alec Ogletree
DB's-Reshad Jones, Tyvon Branch

2 2015 first round picks.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users