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Martin Perez 2014 Outlook


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#1 Fenam

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:03 PM

Great change-up: 8.5 runs above average (top 15 minimum 120 IP). Working on the cutter. Solid 2013. Sparkling new contract.

Worth a late round flyer?

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 11:24 AM

Possible opening day starter for the rangers. Former top prospect. I kind of like him as a post hype sleeper.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:23 PM

Last year he had some dominant outings.

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C  -  Wilson Ramos

1B - Joey Votto

2B - DJ LeMahieu

3B - Miguel Cabrera

SS - Carlos Correa

OF - Ryan Braun

OF - Jason Heyward

OF - Joc Pederson

Util - Eric Hosmer

 

BN - Alex Gordon, Randall Grichuk

 

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#4 IlliniGuy76

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 01:48 PM

As you can see I have him on one of my teams. I VERY much like his upside here.

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8 team, Roto, 5x5 - no wins (QS instead), no average (OBP instead)

C: Cervelli 1B: Duda 2B: Altuve 3B: Machado SS:  Tulo 2B/SS: Wong 1B/3B: Sano OF: Braun, Kemp, Calhoun, Davis, Trumbo UTIL: Miggy SP: Cueto, Zimmerman, Carasco, Wacha, Salazar, Iwakuma, RP: Jansen, Casilla, K Rod BN: Tomas, Buxton, Odorizzi, McHugh

 

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C: Ramos, 1B: Duda 2B: Betts 3B: Machado SS: Tulo INF: Seager OF: JD Martinez, Cutch, Kemp, Soler UTIL: Kang

SP: Greinke, Kluber, Carrasco, deGrom, Bauer, Hector Santiago, Odorizzi, Carlos Martinez RP: Betences, Street, Romo, Rondon, Miller BN: Tomas, Moreland, Duffy

 

12 team, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, K, DEF, 6 Bench spots - Standard scoring - 6 pts for TD pass

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QBs: Kaep, Wilson, Sanchez RBs: Bell, Miller, DeAngelo, Blount, Freeman WRs: Cobb, Hopkins, Cooper, Colston TEs: Julius, Vernon Davis K: Parkey, Santos

 


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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:20 PM

Didn't like his ratios last year so why all the optimism for this coming year. I want to believe...

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:41 PM

Groundball tendencies, excellent changeup, hopefully adding a cutter helps him vs. LH batters.

Still very young and certainly can take a step forward. The "when" is the big question.

With a strong offense backing him, should be good for some Ws even if he just repeats last year's numbers.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:42 PM

Didn't like his ratios last year so why all the optimism for this coming year. I want to believe...


22 years old. Third season in the bigs. Ratios moved in the right direction last year (ERA from 5.45 down to 3.62, WHIP went down big too). I haven't heard any talk of an innings cap yet, and it sounds like he's going to be locked into the rotation all year.

If Taxes has confidence enough to start this guy on Opening Day, it's probably a telling sign.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 02:59 PM

If Taxes has confidence enough to start this guy on Opening Day, it's probably a telling sign.


I think the sign is everybody's hurt (Yu & Holland) or stunk (Ogando)


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Posted 25 March 2014 - 03:16 PM

If Taxes has confidence enough to start this guy on Opening Day, it's probably a telling sign.


I think the sign is everybody's hurt (Yu & Holland) or stunk (Ogando)


lol this.

i used martin last year for a bit, i'm not entirely down on the kid, but his minors numbers don't really look all that encouraging. i base a lot of my young pitching flyers on their minor league portfolio, and this kid's isn't impressive at all. In nearly 600 innings (massive sample size) his career whip is 1.46, and strikeout rate is 7.6/9. not to mention an era over 4. color me not impressed..

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C: Russell Martin $15

1B: Anthony Rizzo $18 (K)                                                       Minors: Jace Peterson $1

2B: Dee Gordon $5 (K)                                                                            Anthony Gose $1

SS: Jhonny Peralta FA

3B: Kyle Seager $27

IF: Mookie Betts $5 (K)

OF: Jacoby Ellsbury $37

OF: Jason Heyward $19

OF: J.D. Martinez $5 (K)

OF: A.J. Pollock $13

Util: Justin Turner FA

Bench: Cameron Maybin FA

 

SP: Stephen Strasburg $28, Cole Hamels $24, Carlos Carrasco $16, Tyson Ross $5 (K), Garrett Richards $1 (K), Michael Pineda $9, Danny Salazar FA, Lance McCullers FA, Eduardo Rodriguez FA

RP: Shawn Tolleson FA, Ken Giles FA, Roberto Osuna FA

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 03:54 PM

i used martin last year for a bit, i'm not entirely down on the kid, but his minors numbers don't really look all that encouraging. i base a lot of my young pitching flyers on their minor league portfolio, and this kid's isn't impressive at all. In nearly 600 innings (massive sample size) his career whip is 1.46, and strikeout rate is 7.6/9. not to mention an era over 4. color me not impressed..


I agree that the underlying numbers don't scream "future ace." But you cannot simply cite his numbers and assume he's tapped his entire potential. He is 22 years old right now and made leaps and bounds improvements last year compared to the previous year. He has always been a hyped prospect and he showed flashes of dominance in several games last year:
  • June 28: 6.2 IP, 7 base runners, 0 ER, 14 ground ball outs, 4-0 win vs. high-powered CIN
  • July 31: 7.1 IP, 6 base runners, 1 ER, 2-1 win vs. LAA
  • Aug. 11: 9.0 IP, 6 base runners, 1 ER, 8 Ks in 8-1 win @HOU
  • Sept. 3: 7.0 IP, 8 base runners, 1 ER, 5 Ks, 5-1 win @OAK
He will never be a high K guy. But he's a ground ball pitcher (had 55 GB outs in 36.1 IP last September, and 198 GB outs in 124.1 IP total) and plays for a winning team. He is easily worth a late-round flyer and could slot nicely as a solid SP3 or SP4.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:27 AM

breakout potential here. Rangers are very high on this kid, and he made big improvements last year and it went on. He's a gamer, which they need since all the injuries to staff. More real life value than fantasy, but still useful in most leagues. Wins especially.
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Posted 01 April 2014 - 08:13 PM

Fluke against a bad team or legit?

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 08:33 PM

He's got the goods. Not sure if this is the year he's ready to be consistently good though.

That said, lovin' it!

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 08:56 PM

Wheels coming off?

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:18 PM

A thing to watch for is how he fares vs. lefties. He has got a top changeup but needs a similarly strong pitch vs. lefties to truly take a step forward. Very encouraging of the combo of Ks and grounders tonight.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 07:59 AM

Seven Ks to zero walks? Yes please!

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:19 AM

A thing to watch for is how he fares vs. lefties. He has got a top changeup but needs a similarly strong pitch vs. lefties to truly take a step forward. Very encouraging of the combo of Ks and grounders tonight.


Had the lefties chasing the slider and the righties flailing at the change. When both are working he can be pretty deadly. Got Revere who is one of the harder players in the league to strike out twice, chasing a slider in the 1st then later with a big looping curve. His best pitch might have been a 3-2 change to Rollins, fooled him so bad, it was great.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:45 AM

Have to keep it in perspective that the Phillies notoriously struggle versus left handed pitching. He will be a nice stream option but he will run into his troubles pitching in Arlington more times then not. I do like him though but just on a matchup basis. With that being said he may be lined up for two starts next week if Yu comes back for his Sunday start. Boston and Houston would be on tap.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:26 AM

A thing to watch for is how he fares vs. lefties. He has got a top changeup but needs a similarly strong pitch vs. lefties to truly take a step forward. Very encouraging of the combo of Ks and grounders tonight.


Had the lefties chasing the slider and the righties flailing at the change. When both are working he can be pretty deadly. Got Revere who is one of the harder players in the league to strike out twice, chasing a slider in the 1st then later with a big looping curve. His best pitch might have been a 3-2 change to Rollins, fooled him so bad, it was great.


There was also a wicked 3-2 change up to Utley that disappeared from the strike zone right as Utley swung above it. A thing of beauty, and shows me he has confidence in his change up in any situation.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 07:27 AM

Who' rolling him out there @BOS?