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#1 dumherb1

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 12:28 PM

Some rotations have been announced - some haven't - do we know 4/5th starters on certain teams? Is Skaggs a starter in LA - Erlin in SD - Paxton in Sea?  feedback is greatly appreciated

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 12:43 PM

Paxton is definitely in for Seattle.  I feel strongly that Skaggs is in for LA.  Erlin seems like the favorite.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 12:45 PM

This might help

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SP-Kershaw, Teheran, Shields, Cobb, Wacha, Lester, Jimenez, Walker, Neise, Smyly, Heaney
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:13 PM

View Postdumherb1, on 26 March 2014 - 12:28 PM, said:

Some rotations have been announced - some haven't - do we know 4/5th starters on certain teams? Is Skaggs a starter in LA - Erlin in SD - Paxton in Sea?  feedback is greatly appreciated
Wisler could of made some noise with his opportunity a few days back, but struggled, looks like Erlin, but that is really just holding a spot for Josh Johnson, who will start season on 15-day DL.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:29 PM

Dice-k and Mejia is 50/50 right now.

Is Robbie Ross getting a spot in the Rangers rotation?
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

I got a question/observation.  Most of the 5 pitcher rotations are ranked by effectiveness, which makes it easy for fantasy baseball drafts.  For example, the best pitcher will be the first pitcher in the rotation, the 4th best would be the 4th pitcher, etc.  But it looks like a lot of studs with high potential are being chosen as the 5th starter.  Does that mean that the 5th starter is actually something we should pay attention to?  Could the 5th starter be more valuable than the 4th starter?

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 02:49 PM

View PostDK64MASTER, on 26 March 2014 - 02:43 PM, said:

I got a question/observation.  Most of the 5 pitcher rotations are ranked by effectiveness, which makes it easy for fantasy baseball drafts.  For example, the best pitcher will be the first pitcher in the rotation, the 4th best would be the 4th pitcher, etc.  But it looks like a lot of studs with high potential are being chosen as the 5th starter.  Does that mean that the 5th starter is actually something we should pay attention to?  Could the 5th starter be more valuable than the 4th starter?

yeah, sometimes managers play the left-right matchups, they like to break them up so that if there's a 3 or 4 game series, the opposing team gets to see at least one lefty, and there are promising young guys with IP limits who will be pitching at the back end of the rotation to get fewer starts or to skip a start here and there, just to preserve their arms.
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C[2] -- Perez, Mesoraco
1B ---- Moss, Abreu
2B ---- Pedroia
SS ---- Escobar, Zobrist
3B ---- Frazier, A-Ram
MI ----- Villar
CI -----
OF[5] - Trout, Stanton, Werth, Morse, Melky, Heyward, Revere
P[9] ---  Cueto, Wacha, Verlander, Minor, Estrada, Ross, Beckett, Keuchel, Roark, Skaggs
---------- A. Wood
RIP ---- Jose Fernandez

The other teams is just one long disabled list.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:14 PM

^The spot shouldn't matter for fantasy purposes.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

I think the biggest mixed league decision to be made is Taylor Jordan vs. Tanner Roark in WAS - both could be late round options in the rotation.
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2B: Pedroia, LeMahieu, Wong
SS: Villar
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OF: Bruce, Trumbo, Kemp, Aoki, Fowler, Swisher, Duda
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

View PostSidearmer, on 26 March 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

Dice-k and Mejia is 50/50 right now.

Is Robbie Ross getting a spot in the Rangers rotation?

Yes.

A right-hander who has never started a major league game will do so for the Rangers next Monday. Tanner Scheppers has earned the nod practically by default.
A back injury that knocked Yu Darvish out for the beginning of the season motivated Ron Washington to give the start to Scheppers, who will try to keep up with Phillies ace Cliff Lee.

Scheppers will be followed in the rotation by Martin Perez, Robbie Ross and Joe Saunders with the fifth starter yet to be determined.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:11 PM

I think it's worth taking a close look at the rotation depth charts/DL lists on each team to see who might be displaced -- sent to the bullpen or sent to AAA -- once several starters return as anticipated in April. Seattle, for instance, will have to do some shuffling once Iwakuma and T. Walker are ready to rejoin the team next month.
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1B: M. Moreland
3B: K. Seagar
Corner Infielder: 3B M. Machado
2B: D. Ackley
SS: E. Aybar
Middle Infielder: X. Boegarts
OF: A. Jones, D. Jennings, W. Myers, M. Brantley, G. Springer
UTIL: M. Aviles
SP: Y. Darvish, CJ Wilson, D. Strailey, C. Archer, T. Skaggs, R. Ross
RP: J. Nathan, Joe Smith, Sean Doolittle

Reserves: C F. Cervelli, OF M. Choice, SS A. Russell, SP K. Gibson, 2B Micah Johnson, RP A. Albuquerque

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:01 AM

View PostDK64MASTER, on 26 March 2014 - 02:43 PM, said:

I got a question/observation.  Most of the 5 pitcher rotations are ranked by effectiveness, which makes it easy for fantasy baseball drafts.  For example, the best pitcher will be the first pitcher in the rotation, the 4th best would be the 4th pitcher, etc.  But it looks like a lot of studs with high potential are being chosen as the 5th starter.  Does that mean that the 5th starter is actually something we should pay attention to?  Could the 5th starter be more valuable than the 4th starter?

If the 5th starter is a better pitcher than the 4th starter. Spot in the rotation isn't relavent to value.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:09 PM

The Rays rotation: Price, Cobb, Moore, Archer, Odorizzi.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:29 PM

View Postmudrummer, on 26 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

I think the biggest mixed league decision to be made is Taylor Jordan vs. Tanner Roark in WAS - both could be late round options in the rotation.

Looks like Fister made 'em both winners.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:43 PM

View PostMugsyBogues, on 27 March 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:

View Postmudrummer, on 26 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

I think the biggest mixed league decision to be made is Taylor Jordan vs. Tanner Roark in WAS - both could be late round options in the rotation.

Looks like Fister made 'em both winners.

A Fister always makes everyone a winner...

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

View Postcountseth, on 27 March 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

View PostMugsyBogues, on 27 March 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:

View Postmudrummer, on 26 March 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

I think the biggest mixed league decision to be made is Taylor Jordan vs. Tanner Roark in WAS - both could be late round options in the rotation.

Looks like Fister made 'em both winners.

A Fister always makes everyone a winner...

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:20 AM

Has anyone seen anything on twitter, etc. on any official word as to specific dates/games the Nats, Padres or Rangers pitchers will go to begin the season?

Edited by TheWrightStuff, 28 March 2014 - 09:22 AM.

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2014:
C-C.Santana (1B/3B), S.Vogt (1B/OF)
1B-F.Freeman, A.Craig (OF)
2B-N.Walker, J.Harrison (3B/OF)
3B- M.Machado, C.McGehee (1B)
SS- B.Zobrist (2B/OF), X.Bogaerts(3B)
OF-A.McCutchen, Y.Puig, J.Bautista (1B), S.Pearce (1B), M.Byrd, B.Revere

SP-Y.Darvish, G.Cole, J.Shields, C.Hamels, H.Iwakuma, AJ Burnett, H.Bailey,
J.Lackey,D.Hutchison, J.deGrom, C.Morton, J.Quintana, JA Happ, J.Kelly


N/A: N.Syndergaard

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 12:58 PM

View PostDK64MASTER, on 26 March 2014 - 02:43 PM, said:

I got a question/observation.  Most of the 5 pitcher rotations are ranked by effectiveness, which makes it easy for fantasy baseball drafts.  For example, the best pitcher will be the first pitcher in the rotation, the 4th best would be the 4th pitcher, etc.  But it looks like a lot of studs with high potential are being chosen as the 5th starter.  Does that mean that the 5th starter is actually something we should pay attention to?  Could the 5th starter be more valuable than the 4th starter?

Aside from the lefty/righty stuff mentioned above tehre is another reason to view these slots differently these days.  Used to be it was straight forward and 5th meant worst.  No more.  Not on every team anyway.  Not in this era of innings limits.

Now the starting the season pitching rotation is sometimes used when trying to limit the number of innings thrown by a younger or a more fragile type of pitcher.

Thus Clay Buchholz is correctly listed "5th" with the Sox this season cause he (and his fragile little body parts) will indeed be the last to make a start out of the gate this year in an effort to save those body parts some wear and tear.  (Rant: He is still gonna be out half the year with "boo-boos" of all kinds both real and imaginary).

Danny Salazar was originally scheduled to start 5th originally cause it is his first full year in the league but he's been moved up to April 4th cause everyone wants to see him in the home team opening day.  The "save ALL the young ones arms" has been the fad now for some time since baseball has a horrible herd mentality that says ALL arms react the same way.  Until a few years from now when someone will discover not all arms are square pegs and there are some round ones too.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:04 PM

View PostTheWrightStuff, on 28 March 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

Has anyone seen anything on twitter, etc. on any official word as to specific dates/games the Nats, Padres or Rangers pitchers will go to begin the season?

Rangers was already discussed in the Ross thread.

Schepp
Perez
Ross
Saunders
Martinez (might be skipped on first go 'round)

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:32 AM

As the All-Star Game approaches next week, it's about time to gather information on how rotations will setup for NEXT Friday, Saturday, and Sunday (after the ASG) for those of us in leagues that count Week 15 as this full week and next weekend (F/Sa/Su). It's early, of course, but I wanted to throw this out there so that we can all share any info we see posted/tweeted/announced as early to mid next week approaches...in order to setup our SP for the end of Week 15 (next weekend). Thanks for any help you can provide when the time comes!
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2014:
C-C.Santana (1B/3B), S.Vogt (1B/OF)
1B-F.Freeman, A.Craig (OF)
2B-N.Walker, J.Harrison (3B/OF)
3B- M.Machado, C.McGehee (1B)
SS- B.Zobrist (2B/OF), X.Bogaerts(3B)
OF-A.McCutchen, Y.Puig, J.Bautista (1B), S.Pearce (1B), M.Byrd, B.Revere

SP-Y.Darvish, G.Cole, J.Shields, C.Hamels, H.Iwakuma, AJ Burnett, H.Bailey,
J.Lackey,D.Hutchison, J.deGrom, C.Morton, J.Quintana, JA Happ, J.Kelly


N/A: N.Syndergaard

Let's go, Mets!




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