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OF+SP for McCutchen - who should i offer? Whir!


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#1 am5465

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:01 PM

McCutchen's owner wants to move him and obviously i'd like to grab him while his value is down. I'd like to move Choo and a SP for Cutch, though i dont want to kill my pitching staff.

What is a reasonable offer to make? Should i even bother, since while my rotation is decent it isnt an elite rotation?

Yahoo 12-team 6x6 H2H Categories League - R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG x SV, K, Total Bases Allowed, ERA, WHIP, QS

C - Mesoraco, Joseph

1B - Goldschmidt

2B - Dozier

3B - Arenado

SS - Desmond

OF - Braun, Bruce, Gardner, Pederson, Yelich (DL), Rios (DL)

SP - Sale, Zimmermann, Arrieta, Carrasco, Hutchison, Pineda, Nelson, Iwakuma (DL), Cobb (DL)

RP - Reed, Ottavino, Wade Davis

 

Yahoo 12-team 5x5 Standard H2H Categories League - R, HR, RBI, AVG, SB x SV, K, ERA, WHIP, W

C - Gattis

1B - Hosmer

2B - Cano

3B - Seager

SS - Bogaerts

OF - Bautista (1B), Brantley, Cespedes, Polanco, Pollock

SP - Felix, Scherzer, Greinke, Price, Keuchel, Cashner, Bradley, Richards

RP - Perkins, Gregerson, Ottavino


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:02 PM

Choo and wacha

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:05 PM

I uh... dont have Wacha?

Yahoo 12-team 6x6 H2H Categories League - R, H, HR, RBI, SB, AVG x SV, K, Total Bases Allowed, ERA, WHIP, QS

C - Mesoraco, Joseph

1B - Goldschmidt

2B - Dozier

3B - Arenado

SS - Desmond

OF - Braun, Bruce, Gardner, Pederson, Yelich (DL), Rios (DL)

SP - Sale, Zimmermann, Arrieta, Carrasco, Hutchison, Pineda, Nelson, Iwakuma (DL), Cobb (DL)

RP - Reed, Ottavino, Wade Davis

 

Yahoo 12-team 5x5 Standard H2H Categories League - R, HR, RBI, AVG, SB x SV, K, ERA, WHIP, W

C - Gattis

1B - Hosmer

2B - Cano

3B - Seager

SS - Bogaerts

OF - Bautista (1B), Brantley, Cespedes, Polanco, Pollock

SP - Felix, Scherzer, Greinke, Price, Keuchel, Cashner, Bradley, Richards

RP - Perkins, Gregerson, Ottavino


#4 mpbaseball22

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:20 PM

Id move Lester+Choo for McCutchen. Great time to trade for McCutchen, Im not sure hed take Archer or Smyly but if he will, take that


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16 Team Dynasty with Milb rosters (40 man mlb, 35 man milb) 15 start limit, points league
McCatchin Trout
C: Posey
1B: Lind
2B: Kipnis
3B: Harrison
SS: Asdrubal
IF: Hardy
OF: McCutchen, Trout, Castillo, Beltran
U: Gattis, Alvarez, Lamb
Bench: Moustakas, Dietrich, Sizemore, Ianetta

SP: Zimmerman, McCarthy, Holland, Hutchison, M Gonzalez, Kazmir, Morton, Simon, Kennedy, Duffy, Feldman, Cashner, Wada, deGrom, Carrasco, Volquez
RP: Holland, Rosenthal, Melancon, Doolittle, Ramos, Cecil, Giles
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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

Yeah I don't know if you have the pitchers to get it done but I wod try lester
10 team h2h non keeper 5x5 cats S+H instead of S and OBP instead of Avg

C Santana
1B Pujols
2B J Altuve
SS I Desmond
3B Miggy
OF Stanton
OF Bautista
OF Marte
Util Longoria
Util J Abreu
WMyers
Polanco
E Cabrera

SP DL A Cobb, Darvish, Wacha, Salazar, H Bailey, Kluber, RP C Allen, Balfour

#6 Brol79

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 03:32 PM

I think its going to take Choo and Sale. Cross your fingers he settles for gio,teheran or shields. teheran might be the easiest sell without giving up sale after his dominant start yesterday.
6 player keeper-14 team 6x6 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB) x (W, SV, HLD, ERA, K, QS)

C- Mesoraco
1B- Rizzo (K)
2B- Betts
3B- Seager (K)
SS- Reyes (K)
OF- Gomez (K), Harper (K), Gardner
Util- Granderson, Cain
BN- Pollock, Byrd, A. Garcia

SP- Wood (K), Ross, Gio, Pineda, Quintana,
RP- Cishek, Boxberger, Dunn, Ottavino, Osuna, Caminero 
DL- Richards, McGee, Parnell
Protected prospects up to 162 games played at MLB level- Betts, Addison Russell, Severino, Schwarber

#7 danielrussell2

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 04:03 PM

When I read through your SP's, I instantly said Lester to myself. I think that's a fair offer that won't kill your staff

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"Shots Fired" League      H2H Points 10 Team Redraft     [Offense - TB(1), R(1), SB(1), BB(1), RBI(1), K(-1)]               

[Pitching - IP(3), W(5), SV(5), K(1), BB(-1), ER(-2), L(-3), BS(-3), H(-1), QS(3), NH(10), PG(20)Limit 12 Starts/Week   

C Lucroy / 1B VMart / 2B Rendon / 3B Seager / SS Peralta / MI Neil Walker / CI Machado

OF Trout / OF Yelich / OF Calhoun / OF Trumbo / OF Pederson / UT Wong / BE OF Werth                                    

SP Scherzer / SP Lester / SP Gio / SP Iwakuma / SP Fister / SP Odorizzi / SP Bauer / SP DeSclafani / SP McCarthy

RP Britton / RP Ottavino                                                                                                                                                      

DL SP Fernandez

 

 

"Master Batters" League    H2H Points 10 Team Redraft     [Offense - TB(1), R(1), SB(1), BB(1), RBI(1), K(-1)]

[Pitching - IP(3), W(5), SV(5), K(1), BB(-1), ER(-2), L(-5), H(-1)]                                                                                        

C Mesoraco / 1B Rizzo / 2B Walker / 3B Seager / SS Alexei / MI Russell / CI Carlos Santana*

OF McCutchen / OF Bautista*** / OF Ellsbury* / OF A Gordon / OF Soler / UT Melky / BE OF Pence                          

SP Bumgarner / SP Zimmermann / SP Harvey / SP Fister*** / SP Iwakuma / SP Pineda / SP Simon / SP Carlos Martinez

SP Carlos Martinez / SP Quintana / SP Nelson                                                                                                                   

DL SP JoFer***

*Trade 1 - Spring Training - Send ARam/Cespedes, Receive Carlos Santana/Ellsbury

**Trade 2 - Spring Training - Send Derek Holland, Receive Hunter Pence (injured)

***Trade 3 - Week 2 - Send Dozier/Pederson/Wacha/A.Bradley, Receive Bautista/Fister/JoFer/B.Phillips

 


#8 ulysses

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:24 PM

I can't see your roster on my phone but Lester and choo is sick for mccutchen. I doubt he'd do it though

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:26 PM

You won't get Cutch for most of the things people are suggesting. Sale Choo is more accurate
http://forums.rotowo...howtopic=437681
Roto keeper (keeps 15) that has the following cats R, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, IP, K, QS, SV, ERA WHIP. 270 Start limit

C - Devin Mesoraco
1B - Jose Bautista
2B - Daniel Murphy
3B - Wilmer Flores
SS - Ian Desmond
IF - Jose Abreu
OF - Carlos Gomez, Jose Bautista, Bryce Harper, Corey Dickerson, Michael Brantley
UTIL - Matt Holliday
Bench - Nolan Arenado, Jake Marisnick, Avisail Garcia
SP - Max Scherzer, Zach Greinke, Julio Teheran, Derek Holland, Gerrit Cole, Jake Arrieta, Jose Quintana, Dallas Keuchel, Mike Fiers
RP - Drew Storen, Tony Watson, Kevin Quackenbush, Delin Betances, Wade Davis, Ken Giles
DL - (3 spots) - Matt Harvey, Cliff Lee, Garrett Richards

#10 rperricone

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:29 PM

Archer or Lester and Choo would be good for you

12-team yahoo points league since 2001.  4 Keepers

 

C :      Vogt

1B:     Freeman

2B:     Betts

3B:     Seager

SS:     Reyes

LF:     Cespedes

CF:     Pederson

RF:     Bautista

UT:     Polanco

BN:     Guerrero - Harrison - Gattis  - Semien 

SP:     Bumgarner - Cueto - Salazar - Cashner - Bradley - Smyly - Cobb

RP:     Kimbrel - Uehara - Perkins - Betances  - Castro

DL:     Ryu - Josh Hamilton

 

 


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

I would try Choo and Lester first but it'll probably take Sale and Choo. http://forums.rotowo...howtopic=437683

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:36 PM

Try to get Wacha so you can package him and Choo

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 05:50 PM

Try to get Wacha so you can package him and Choo

What?? I'm sorry but that makes no sense.
6 player keeper-14 team 6x6 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB) x (W, SV, HLD, ERA, K, QS)

C- Mesoraco
1B- Rizzo (K)
2B- Betts
3B- Seager (K)
SS- Reyes (K)
OF- Gomez (K), Harper (K), Gardner
Util- Granderson, Cain
BN- Pollock, Byrd, A. Garcia

SP- Wood (K), Ross, Gio, Pineda, Quintana,
RP- Cishek, Boxberger, Dunn, Ottavino, Osuna, Caminero 
DL- Richards, McGee, Parnell
Protected prospects up to 162 games played at MLB level- Betts, Addison Russell, Severino, Schwarber

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

Agree with Brol on this one. Sale and Choo is probably the best "realistic" package you can offer, but even that will likely be vetoed. Generally when you are trading for a first round pick - and in this case a player with an ADP in the Top 5 - you are going to need to offer at least a 2nd round talent and another player to a smart owner.

Choo is a consistent fantasy option, but he's also boring with a high floor and a low-ceiling. This never bodes will for trade value in my experience. He will never be a stud and most owners are aware of this. Compounding this issue is that Choo is off to a slow start and the Texas offense looks bad in general. The guy who owns McCutchen is likely panicking and he wants pretty early season numbers in return.

Sale may be able to convince him, but if I were the McCutchen owner (and I was panicking) I'd still veto immediately or counter with Choo-Sale-Springer (the latter who I would flip). Sorry for the CSB at the end there >.>.

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*One empty roster spot*

C: 

1B: Paul Goldschmidt

2B: Kolten Wong

3B: Nolan Arenado

SS: Ian Desmond

OF: Giancarlo Stanton, Corey Dickerson, Steven Souza

UTIL: Chris Davis, Eric Hosmer

Bench: Joc Pederson

DL: Anthony Rendón

DL: Travis d'Arnaud

 

SP: Jake Arrieta, The Cleveland Indians (Carlos Carrasco, Trevor Bauer, Danny Salazar), Shane Greene, Hisashi Iwamuka

RP: Andrew Miller, Brad Boxberger, Adam Ottavino, Jeurys Familia, Wade Davis

Bench: Carlos Rodon