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2014 Worst Trade ProposalsFishing for suckers


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#1 GottaGetTheWin

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:17 AM

We had this thread last year and with the trade offer I got it seem right to reopen it.

In my 12 team PPR dynasty I was just offered....

My: Alshon/Ladarius Green

for

His: Roddy White/E. Sanders.

No thanks.

#2 CL3VELANDBR0WNS

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed
I am more than willing to help with any dynasty/keeper league questions, PM me if you have any.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:15 PM

My wife said she'd double the amount of sex we have if I gave up fantasy football this year. DECLINE!

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:39 PM

View Postowenmills, on 11 July 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

My wife said she'd double the amount of sex we have if I gave up fantasy football this year. DECLINE!

LOL
How’s she handling the rejection of the trade?

Edited by mnfan, 11 July 2014 - 02:47 PM.


#5 FFCollusion

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 05:17 PM

View Postowenmills, on 11 July 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

My wife said she'd double the amount of sex we have if I gave up fantasy football this year. DECLINE!

Well you're married.  Double 0, is still 0.  She thinks she's so sneaky!
Good thing the trade evaluation tool didn't let you get fooled by mathematical misconceptions!
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#6 dewaser

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 12:31 AM

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed

and what's so bad about this??
10 team H2H 8 cat league

PG: John Wall, Stephen Curry, Tony Parker, DJ Augustin, Mario Chalmers, Darren Collison
SG: Kyle Korver, Jimmy Butler, Jodie Meeks
SF: Chandler Parsons, Gerald Green, Kawhi Leonard
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Demarcus Cousins, Nikola Vucevic, Marcin Gortat, Gorgui Dieng
IR: Eric Bledsoe

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 01:14 AM

View Postowenmills, on 11 July 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

My wife said she'd double the amount of sex we have if I gave up fantasy football this year. DECLINE!

Need more information.If you have sex like once a month, no thanks. But if you have sex a couple times a week, i might consider. Would also need to see pics of your wife.

#8 CL3VELANDBR0WNS

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:46 AM

View Postdewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed

and what's so bad about this??
Johnson > Green
Maclin >> Austin
Reed >> Hill
I am more than willing to help with any dynasty/keeper league questions, PM me if you have any.

#9 dewaser

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 12:16 PM

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 12 July 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

View Postdewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed

and what's so bad about this??
Johnson > Green
Maclin >> Austin
Reed >> Hill

it's not horrible though, hill is a nice dynasty rb and austin could be good too. it's not like maclin is some coveted asset or something. neither is reed.
10 team H2H 8 cat league

PG: John Wall, Stephen Curry, Tony Parker, DJ Augustin, Mario Chalmers, Darren Collison
SG: Kyle Korver, Jimmy Butler, Jodie Meeks
SF: Chandler Parsons, Gerald Green, Kawhi Leonard
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Demarcus Cousins, Nikola Vucevic, Marcin Gortat, Gorgui Dieng
IR: Eric Bledsoe

#10 CL3VELANDBR0WNS

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 02:26 PM

View Postdewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 12 July 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

View Postdewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed

and what's so bad about this??
Johnson > Green
Maclin >> Austin
Reed >> Hill

it's not horrible though, hill is a nice dynasty rb and austin could be good too. it's not like maclin is some coveted asset or something. neither is reed.
Hill is an untalented plodder.
Reed is pretty highly coveted
Maclin has opportunity of a lifetime

I am more than willing to help with any dynasty/keeper league questions, PM me if you have any.

#11 GreatScott!

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:56 PM

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 12 July 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

View Postdewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 12 July 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

View Postdewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

View PostCL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed

and what's so bad about this??
Johnson > Green
Maclin >> Austin
Reed >> Hill

it's not horrible though, hill is a nice dynasty rb and austin could be good too. it's not like maclin is some coveted asset or something. neither is reed.
Hill is an untalented plodder.
Reed is pretty highly coveted
Maclin has opportunity of a lifetime

Green and Hill are wastes of rosters spaces.  Now mind you it's not like Stevie Johnson isn't bench fodder at this point and who knows if Reed will amount to anything, but Maclin on the other hand would appear to have a great shot this year at a very nice year.
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#12 jstep13

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:18 PM

These threads are always great to visit after the year because half the time, these trades end up being fairly decent offers, but everyone thinks their players are gold and their ish don't stink....

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:20 PM

View Postjstep13, on 12 July 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

These threads are always great to visit after the year because half the time, these trades end up being fairly decent offers, but everyone thinks their players are gold and their ish don't stink....

Totally agree.

This is like my league every year. I'll offer a trade, usually a player who has some upside but is probably on my bench and I'm trying to up grade another position and guys will be like "ah, that sucks, I don't know who that guy is, you're trying to screw me over!" Fast forward a few weeks and I'm glad they didn't accept that trade because it would have not gone too well for me.

Trades are all about negotiation. When you buy something from someone, do you start at your max offer? No, you start low, they go higher, then perhaps you meet in the middle, or you don't make the deal. Same thing applies with trades. A vast majority of offers maybe aren't ideal, but it's possible to work with the other person to get to where you'd be comfortable in making a trade. That's not to say there aren't bad trade offers, however most offers should probably be open to negotiation.

Edited by Shake, 12 July 2014 - 07:21 PM.


#14 owenmills

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 07:43 PM

View Postdmb3684, on 12 July 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

View Postowenmills, on 11 July 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

My wife said she'd double the amount of sex we have if I gave up fantasy football this year. DECLINE!

Need more information.If you have sex like once a month, no thanks. But if you have sex a couple times a week, i might consider. Would also need to see pics of your wife.

Picture Melissa McCarthy

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:22 PM

View PostShake, on 12 July 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

Totally agree.

This is like my league every year. I'll offer a trade, usually a player who has some upside but is probably on my bench and I'm trying to up grade another position and guys will be like "ah, that sucks, I don't know who that guy is, you're trying to screw me over!" Fast forward a few weeks and I'm glad they didn't accept that trade because it would have not gone too well for me.

Trades are all about negotiation. When you buy something from someone, do you start at your max offer? No, you start low, they go higher, then perhaps you meet in the middle, or you don't make the deal. Same thing applies with trades. A vast majority of offers maybe aren't ideal, but it's possible to work with the other person to get to where you'd be comfortable in making a trade. That's not to say there aren't bad trade offers, however most offers should probably be open to negotiation.

This is what many don't get in almost any league I've ever played in IMO.  You've gotta be willing to negotiate and listen to counter offers and be open to make them yourself.

This is a hypothetical example...

I have 4 good RBs and only 2 good WRs.  I have Matt Forte and Calvin Johnson roughly evaluated at equal.  I own Matt Forte and someone else owns Calvin Johnson.

I would offer Forte for Calvin Johnson, the megatron owner will always say no and try to get more, like try to get Forte and one of my startable WRs, of course I'm not gonna do that.

Now in another trade offer I know in my head I'm willing to go up to Forte to get Megatron from this guy, but I don't want to have to deal with this guy trying to get my other WRs too.  I offer Gio Bernard and a crappy WR.  Now the owner comes to this thread and mocks me and trade talks have stalled out.

It's a very difficult proposition making trades...

Edited by Dreams And Dwightmares, 15 July 2014 - 05:23 PM.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:46 PM

i get Maurice Jones-Drew
i give up Lesean Mccoy

within 2 or 3 hours of the draft ending,mccoy=3rd pick of the 1st round. jones drew=7th pick of the 12th round

Edited by pagkerguy8, 15 July 2014 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:50 PM

View Postowenmills, on 13 July 2014 - 07:43 PM, said:

View Postdmb3684, on 12 July 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

View Postowenmills, on 11 July 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

My wife said she'd double the amount of sex we have if I gave up fantasy football this year. DECLINE!

Need more information.If you have sex like once a month, no thanks. But if you have sex a couple times a week, i might consider. Would also need to see pics of your wife.

Picture Melissa McCarthy
Counter-Offer

Tell your wife she's gorgeous 3 times a day from September through January
Win your league
Buy your beautiful Melissa McCarthy look-alike roses from your winnings
Reap rewards from extra sex

Win-Win

#18 owenmills

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 08:28 AM

 pagkerguy8, on 15 July 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

i get Maurice Jones-Drew
i give up Lesean Mccoy

within 2 or 3 hours of the draft ending,mccoy=3rd pick of the 1st round. jones drew=7th pick of the 12th round

You didn't hear the news on McCoy?

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:08 PM

 CL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 12 July 2014 - 02:26 PM, said:

 dewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

 CL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 12 July 2014 - 10:46 AM, said:

 dewaser, on 12 July 2014 - 12:31 AM, said:

 CL3VELANDBR0WNS, on 11 July 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

His: Shonn Green, Tavon Austin, and Jeremy Hill
My: Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordan Reed

and what's so bad about this??
Johnson > Green
Maclin >> Austin
Reed >> Hill

it's not horrible though, hill is a nice dynasty rb and austin could be good too. it's not like maclin is some coveted asset or something. neither is reed.
Hill is an untalented plodder.
Reed is pretty highly coveted
Maclin has opportunity of a lifetime

Reed is one head injury away from being mentally equal to a tomato. Talented until then, good luck figuring out when that is though.
hill we have very little basis to judge either way.... NFL

I agree maclin is worth more then tavon

Green is pretty old for dynasty and in a share at best, but then again Johnson is now not even the go to wr and on a run first team with a QB of ho-hum accuracy.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:11 PM

I think the above is a prime example of why vetoing trades are horrible(except when collusion). Different people have wildly different views on player's value. I also don't think that is a terrible trade at all, ESPECIALLY if it's a dynasty league.




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