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Draft Day Avoid List 2015


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#1 2ndCitySox

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:42 AM

This thread is dedicated to guys that will likely be overvalued on Draft day and that you will be avoiding at their expected ADP.

I'll start it off with one guy who might have one more year of name value left: David Wright. No thanks.
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C- Carlton Fisk
1B- Frank Thomas
2B- Ryne Sandberg
SS- Ozzie Smith
3B- Wade Boggs
CF- Rickey
LF- Kirk Gibson
RF- Chili Davis
DH- Eddie Murray

SP- Nolan Ryan
SP- Orel Herschiser
SP- Greg Maddux
SP- Roger Clemens
SP- BlackJack McDowell

RP- Eck

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:49 AM

Cargo, Stanton, Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon, Jose Altuve, Michael Brantley, Nelson Cruz, Todd Fraizer, Melky Cabrera, Alexi Ramirez, Carlos Gomez ( depending on where they rank him i love him but wouldn't take him top 14)........... Not to say any of these guys are bad players their actually great players for the most part but they will be heavily overrated by the morons of ESPN

2016 Yahoo 10 Team Redraft H2H each category league R, Hr,Rbi, H, 2B, 3B, SB,TB,AVG,OPS, W, L, CG, SHO, SV, BB,K ERA,WHIP
C- Brian McCann
1B- David Ortiz
2B- Aledmys Diaz

3B- Josh Donaldson
SS- Trevor Story
IF- Kendrys Morales
OF- J.D. Martinez, Jose Bautista, Nelson Cruz
UTIL- Evan Longoria, Nomar Mozara 
BENCH- Colby Rasmus, Charlie Blackmon, Mike Moustakas, Anthony Rendon ,Wil Myers

PITCHERS-  Gerrit Cole, Sonny Gray, Adam Wainwright, Jon Lester, Carlos Martinez, Jaime Garcia, Jonathan Papelbon, Santiago Casilla, Jose Berrios, Jason Grilli, Drew Pomeranz, Kevin Jepsen, Mat Latos

DL- Yu Darvish, Tyson Ross


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:13 AM

Cargo, Stanton, Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon, Jose Altuve, Michael Brantley, Nelson Cruz, Todd Fraizer, Melky Cabrera, Alexi Ramirez, Carlos Gomez ( depending on where they rank him i love him but wouldn't take him top 14)........... Not to say any of these guys are bad players their actually great players for the most part but they will be heavily overrated by the morons of ESPN


Stanton isn't a top 14 player next year? Carlos Gomez is around the top 14 too.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:18 AM

Cargo, Stanton, Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon, Jose Altuve, Michael Brantley, Nelson Cruz, Todd Fraizer, Melky Cabrera, Alexi Ramirez, Carlos Gomez ( depending on where they rank him i love him but wouldn't take him top 14)........... Not to say any of these guys are bad players their actually great players for the most part but they will be heavily overrated by the morons of ESPN


Stanton isn't a top 14 player next year? Carlos Gomez is around the top 14 too.


I'd draft Stanton and Gomez top 14 next year. Cargo will definitely be an untouchable next year he's done stealing bases this year who knows if that changes next year

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:19 AM

I'm actually not seeing too many DNDs...

Probably just Harper

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:20 AM

Stanton is an easy top 5 pick and arguably 3rd.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:23 AM

It is too early but I'll contribute:

Danny Salazar - likely still will be rated highly because the experts love strikeouts, but at this point he's basically Ubaldo Jimenez.

Bryce Harper - His draft price will still be top 3 rounds, even if he hits 30 HR and stays healthy, that could come with .260 and batting 6th which will make it very tough for him to live up to that price.

Troy Tulowitzki - injured every year, unless your league has pro injury settings.

Danny Santana - If the season ended today Santana might end up being a top 13 round draft pick but all of his numbers are screaming fluke. Stay away.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:27 AM

This seems might silly to talk about now. There's 1/3 of the season left. Way too much can/will change to make any of this relevant.
This will be a great discussion in November.

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#9 Low and Away

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:27 AM

Stanton is an easy top 5 pick and arguably 3rd.


I'd still go Trout, Miggy, Goldschmidt, and Cutch. Owning Kershaw this year is a maybe, but sure is nice just to set and forget him.

10 Team H2H 5X5 Keep 4

 

C- Vogt

1st- Hosmer

2nd- Russell

3rd- Moustakis

SS- CSeager

1st/3rd- Park

2nd/SS - Mercer

Of- Trout, Harper, Cutch, Polanco, Conforto

UTL- Sano

Bn - Mazara, Shaw, Reed

 

 

SP- Syndergaard, Moore,

RP- Papelbon, Gregerson, Madson, Davis, Ramos, Smith

d/l- McCullers

 

 


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:31 AM

Cargo, Stanton, Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon, Jose Altuve, Michael Brantley, Nelson Cruz, Todd Fraizer, Melky Cabrera, Alexi Ramirez, Carlos Gomez ( depending on where they rank him i love him but wouldn't take him top 14)........... Not to say any of these guys are bad players their actually great players for the most part but they will be heavily overrated by the morons of ESPN


I agree with some here (Brantley, Cruz, Melky). Brantley will be severely overrated imo. He is good but can't expect 20/20 next year. Will likely be in round 5 about when he's a round 10 player. Cruz has never hit HR at this pace, and he most likely cashes in on a big long term contract this year. Maybe a good ballpark will sway my opinion, but he has 7th round value written all over him but will be inside top 5. Besides average Melky wouldn't be considered above average in any category for an OF. Definitely not worth a high pick. Average is too volatile to depend on, and Melky's value solely depends on that.

But for others they are top players and I would expect fair prices on them.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

This seems might silly to talk about now. There's 1/3 of the season left. Way too much can/will change to make any of this relevant.
This will be a great discussion in November.


It depends on the player I think. Guys whose names outweigh their performance
All-Icon Team:
C- Carlton Fisk
1B- Frank Thomas
2B- Ryne Sandberg
SS- Ozzie Smith
3B- Wade Boggs
CF- Rickey
LF- Kirk Gibson
RF- Chili Davis
DH- Eddie Murray

SP- Nolan Ryan
SP- Orel Herschiser
SP- Greg Maddux
SP- Roger Clemens
SP- BlackJack McDowell

RP- Eck

#12 Low and Away

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:48 AM

I don't understand the Cruz avoidance, both this year and going forward (providing he stays in BLT). Last year he had 27 HR in 109 games. This year 29 HR in 102 games. The pace is very close. Last 5 years he has 164 HRS with a 3rd of this season left. Since he stopped running he isn't injured as often.

Are you really saying that an OF that seems like a lock for a .260/80/33/80/3 you are going to consider overrated in the 5th round?

10 Team H2H 5X5 Keep 4

 

C- Vogt

1st- Hosmer

2nd- Russell

3rd- Moustakis

SS- CSeager

1st/3rd- Park

2nd/SS - Mercer

Of- Trout, Harper, Cutch, Polanco, Conforto

UTL- Sano

Bn - Mazara, Shaw, Reed

 

 

SP- Syndergaard, Moore,

RP- Papelbon, Gregerson, Madson, Davis, Ramos, Smith

d/l- McCullers

 

 


#13 pbjfb

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:51 AM

well, here is the list of rotoworld's top 300 for 2015 from July 15 by matthew pouliot:
http://www.rotoworld...top-300-overall

you can go through and list who is over-rated and under-rated.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:53 AM

Longoria, Votto, Blackmon, Mesoraco, Dozier, Byrd will be overvalued too.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:53 AM

No such thing as a true DND for me, but I can't see myself paying the required value for CarGo, Harper, Bruce, and others. Someone always sees the upside and not the risk.

Edited by oswald737, 27 July 2014 - 10:54 AM.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:10 AM

Rendon, maybe Moss, Khris Davis

George Springer, Gregory Polanco as well

Edited by tuesdays, 27 July 2014 - 11:11 AM.

ESPN 12-team AL-only Dynasty Points League

 

C - Jarrod Saltalamacchia

1B - Byung Ho Park

2B - Brian Dozier

3B - Josh Donaldson

SS - Jimmy Rollins

LF - Delino DeShields

CF - Carlos Gomez

RF - Michael Saunders

Util - Steven Souza

 

Bench - Josh Phegley, Jason Castro, Chris Colabello, Dae-Ho Lee, Brad Miller

 

SP - Cole Hamels, Lance McCullers, Mike Fiers, Shane Greene, Kendall Graveman, Drew Hutchison

RP - Keone Kela, Kelvin Herrera, Ryan Madson, Jesse Chavez, Justin Wilson, Liam Hendricks

 

Prospects - Rafael Devers, Sean Manaea, Kyle Zimmer, Blake Snell, Brent Honeywell


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:22 AM

What would Stanton be overvalued? This confuses me. I can only think of injury risk but think his risk is the same as everyone else in the MLB. Easy top 10 player. Top 5 based on preference.

Nelson Cruz in 3rd is too high. After the 5th, maybe. Chris Davis likely to come in high too.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:29 AM

No such thing as a true DND for me, but I can't see myself paying the required value for CarGo, Harper, Bruce, and others. Someone always sees the upside and not the risk.


True DNDs for me have always been guys that simply do not do average (e.g. Dunn, Uggla).

Or guys that have such an unusual stat skillset for their position (e.g power hitting middle infielders that get zero steals) that I have to reconstruct my whole team around them.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:38 AM

I recall this time last year, Anthony Rizzo was at the top of many poster's DND list.

17-team Dynasty 2 QB .67 PPR

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QB1 - Mike Tomczak

QB2 - Akili Smith

WR1 -  J.J. Stokes

WR2 - Troy Edwards

WR3 - Cordarrelle Patterson

RB1 - Ki-Jana Carter

RB2 - Tim Biakabutuka

FLEX - Ron Dayne

TE - Mike Ditka

K - Bill Gramatica

DEF- Pottsville Maroons

 

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:38 AM

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