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Mike Fiers 2014 Outlook


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#1 Mcova23

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:39 AM

Anyone remember 2012?

Will get the start on Saturday against the Dodgers.

8-5 2.55 ERA, 0.95 WHIP, 129/17 K/B in 102 innings.


Just saying.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:14 AM

Those are some eyebrow-raising PCL stats...I don't care if it is Mike Fiers, that's worth taking a flier on

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:27 AM

He's been a beast at AAA this year. Definitely worth a speculative add in most formats.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:44 AM

Those are some eyebrow-raising PCL stats...I don't care if it is Mike Fiers, that's worth taking a flier on


Throw in a 11.35 k/9 and 1.50 bb/9 (with a respectable .285 babip) and I think I'd completely agree with you.

2012: 127 2/3 ip, 9.52 k/9, 2.54 bb/9, .319 babip, 3.74 era/3.47 xFIP. Why not?

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:38 PM

I've watched him a lot and I'm not a fan.

He's 29, probably at least 6 years older than the competition he's faced. Take those stats with a grain of salt. He has a decent 4-pitch mix with good peripherals in the majors, hence why I've taken him in the past. But he's been brutal every time I've seen him. I would stay far away unless you're in the deepest of leagues.

Last note: Garza should be back before August is up and the Brewers have several off-days including at least one every week until September. With Fiers' previous experience in the bullpen I fully expect him to be skipped in the rotation at least once before the inevitable demotion.
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:09 PM

I've watched him a lot and I'm not a fan.

He's 29, probably at least 6 years older than the competition he's faced. Take those stats with a grain of salt. He has a decent 4-pitch mix with good peripherals in the majors, hence why I've taken him in the past. But he's been brutal every time I've seen him. I would stay far away unless you're in the deepest of leagues.

Last note: Garza should be back before August is up and the Brewers have several off-days including at least one every week until September. With Fiers' previous experience in the bullpen I fully expect him to be skipped in the rotation at least once before the inevitable demotion.


His success comes from his deceptive delivery. W/O it, the fastball is a meaty piece for MLB hitting. I watched a lot of him too. He was pretty great in his first 10 starts or so. The Change and Curve are quality pitches. His cutter is terrible though.

It appeared they figured out the deception and were sitting dead red after awhile.. He has given up 17 HRs of his 4 Seam, most of which came at the end of his 2012, and terrible 2013.

He's worth a stream for his first start. Though a risky stream against the Dodgers. on the off-chance the team is caught off guard from his Delivery for a short time. But not a guy I would hold on to or drop anything worthwhile for.

Edited by Slatykamora, 08 August 2014 - 02:14 PM.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:53 PM

Yeah, I remember the run he had in 2012. It was a fun ride while it lasted. But the league eventually figured him out, and it got ugly in a hurry. He's similar to John Ely in how he relies on his deception, only he's better than Ely.

Could be useful for a few streams.

Edited by Posting In The Clutch, 08 August 2014 - 03:54 PM.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 05:45 PM

People put too much weight in minor league stats. I remember what he did in the majors..No thanks..

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:04 PM

People put too much weight in minor league stats. I remember what he did in the majors..No thanks..


Things can change and people can learn and improve. What he did in the PCL is impressive. That being said, he is only a streamer at this point unless he can string a few nice starts together.
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:07 PM

Again, it's not that impressive considering his age.
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:32 PM

Again, it's not that impressive considering his age.


Wada is older, had pretty good stats at AAA in the PCL and is doing just fine so far. I'm not saying he is the savior for the fantasy playoffs, but I'm saying take a chance and stream him and I think he can put up solid stats.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 07:04 PM

Thought I saw a thread but didn't see it in the directory.

He's not supposed to be legit despite the stellar minors numbers this year. Almost 30 too.

But looks great (in the box score) through three innings so far.

Edited by young dude, 09 August 2014 - 07:05 PM.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 07:27 PM

Still solid through 5...
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3B- Pablo Sandoval
IF- Miguel Cabrera
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CF- George Springer
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SP- Felix Hernandez, Max Scherzer, Cole Hamels, James Shields, Wily Peralta, Chris Tillman, Tsuyoshi Wada, Dylan Bundy, Matt Wisler, Anthony Ranaudo, Carlos Martinez
RP- Rafael Soriano, Cody Allen, Mike Fiers, Brandon Workman
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 07:33 PM

We need someone to give us the eye test ASAP so we know if it's worth jumping on.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 07:40 PM

Been watching the game but not really paying attention to Fiers. I have zero interest in him as a fantasy asset. With his Fastball he's way too prone to ratio crippling blowups for my liking.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:06 PM

Pitched very we'll but no thanks..

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:13 PM

People put too much weight in minor league stats. I remember what he did in the majors..No thanks..


Looks like you called that one.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

Just shut down the Dodgers and no love? Interesting.
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C- Carlos Santana
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SS- Hanley Ramirez
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SP- Felix Hernandez, Max Scherzer, Cole Hamels, James Shields, Wily Peralta, Chris Tillman, Tsuyoshi Wada, Dylan Bundy, Matt Wisler, Anthony Ranaudo, Carlos Martinez
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:19 PM


People put too much weight in minor league stats. I remember what he did in the majors..No thanks..


Looks like you called that one.


it is 1 outing really you get happy over 1 start lol have fun. I remember what he did the las time he was in the majors no thanks.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:34 PM



People put too much weight in minor league stats. I remember what he did in the majors..No thanks..


Looks like you called that one.


it is 1 outing really you get happy over 1 start lol have fun. I remember what he did the las time he was in the majors no thanks.


1 outing tonight and 102 innings of dominance in the PCL. Tonight's start shouldn't have been surprising. But you remember what he did in 22 innings last year and base your opinion off that...fair enough I guess.

I don't think the league ever "figured him out" at the end of 2012. That doesn't just happen all at once. He just lost his command of the strike zone and got hammered because that's what happens when you throw a 91 FB and miss your spots. This year his command has been elite.
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