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Eli Manning 2014 Season Outlook


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#1 CamNewton

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 11:38 AM

Discuss.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 11:56 AM

Well, there's this (I think they had one last year too)



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:00 PM

Well, there's this (I think they had one last year too)



That video instantly raises his ADP 1-2 rounds.
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:23 PM

The question in my mind is whether he continues to regress or experiences a revival in the same way that Philip Rivers did.

I tend to lean towards regression because of the offensive line that seems awful, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn it around.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:40 PM

Well, there's this (I think they had one last year too)

https://www.youtube....h?v=qMor6dL0LfI


That video is actually pretty entertaining. The 27 interceptions last year are not. He's also killing Victor Cruz's value. I just don't understand how a 2-time SB winning QB can be so historically bad just a few years later. The new offense with all these alleged short passes will help him, but 27 interceptions is pretty scary. Ryan Leaf's career high was 18 INTs, Jamarcus Russell 11, to put it in perspective.
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:51 PM

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:10 PM

I've been pretty bearish on Eli throughout his career -- except briefly in 2009-11 when he was actually really good -- so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think he's done.

Also, for those who didn't follow him last year, be advised that his stats (i.e. yardage, TDs, YPA) often came from when he was down by like three touchdowns and was just chucking the ball all over the place.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:19 PM

He magically regressed

Or maybe the OL was a disgrace, the running game even worse, and receivers were dropping balls left and right - when they actually ran the right routes

The almighty Peyton looked like a bum in the SB - eli was seeing that kind of pressure every week behind that garbage OL

There is no QB in the league that wouldve done well in that offense last year. None.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:45 PM

He magically regressed

Or maybe the OL was a disgrace, the running game even worse, and receivers were dropping balls left and right - when they actually ran the right routes

The almighty Peyton looked like a bum in the SB - eli was seeing that kind of pressure every week behind that garbage OL

There is no QB in the league that wouldve done well in that offense last year. None.


Not Aaron Rodgers?

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:53 PM

I've been pretty bearish on Eli throughout his career -- except briefly in 2009-11 when he was actually really good -- so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think he's done.

Also, for those who didn't follow him last year, be advised that his stats (i.e. yardage, TDs, YPA) often came from when he was down by like three touchdowns and was just chucking the ball all over the place.


He also had a bunch of juicy matchups down the stretch (other than Seattle, where he completely imploded), and he didn't perform from a fantasy perspective. No 300 yard games after week 5; games included the 4 NFC North teams, Oakland, Washington twice, Dallas. From a team perspective, they went 7-4 (after an 0-5 start).

It has been two years of fairly brutal fantasy production. He's a tough call in 2QB leagues. The price is obviously fairly low for a guy with a good long term track record; 20 guys going before him on average. One point in his favor has been outstanding durability. 16 starts for nine years running.

I think there is something to see here, but I wouldn't blame anyone who has owned him either of the past two years to fight other battles.
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Posted 13 August 2014 - 11:58 AM

His 27 INT's was of course pretty high. I'd guess based on watching them all last season that at least 8-10 of those were passes that hit the receivers hand first. I think at the very least he will be safer with the ball this year but I don't expect anything crazy out of him.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 01:36 PM

This game was the worst

http://espn.go.com/n...ameId=331110019

They didn't even have confidence in him to let him throw the ball at all. Ended up running the ball 35 times, including 30 by Andre Brown -- his first game back from injury

You'd figure Eli would put up solid #s against an inferior opponent at home. If not then, when?

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:43 PM

Through 2 preseason games it's a wonder how the giants could allow this guy to be their starting QB entering the season.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 11:56 AM

His 27 INT's was of course pretty high. I'd guess based on watching them all last season that at least 8-10 of those were passes that hit the receivers hand first. I think at the very least he will be safer with the ball this year but I don't expect anything crazy out of him.


That's probably going to be the popular narrative, but here:

http://www.footballo...erceptions-2013

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 01:47 PM

Through 2 preseason games it's a wonder how the giants could allow this guy to be their starting QB entering the season.


If Eli goes in the HOF, it will be an absolute joke. He's a modern day Jim Plunkett. A thoroughly mediocre QB who won a couple rings. Dude has an 81.5 career QB rating. An 81.5 career QB rating in today's NFL is absolutely awful, equivalent to about 60 back in the day.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:07 AM

Seriously, how is this guy a starting QB in the NFL?

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:15 AM

Seriously, how is this guy a starting QB in the NFL?


Two Super Bowls and his last name doesn't hurt.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:20 AM

Poor Giants man
What happened to this guy

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:21 AM

Should be the 31st QB really just ahead of whoever the Rams start.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 07:08 AM

Might be time to hang up the cleats.

It's a combination of poor play by Eli, strange play calling, and just lack of communication by the skilled positions players on offense. From what I saw, there were multiple times where Eli changed the play, and the wideouts/TE's just didn't register it. That play where Eli rolled out and TWO wideouts were blocking down field? That's inexcusable.

This is why practice and preseason exists.

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