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LinceArmStrong View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 09:54 PM Post #1
pronounced Lin-ceh-cum Group: Established Members Posts: 16,185 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 1,924	Can anyone shed some light as to why he did not attempt a stolen base last year in 45 games? His minor league numbers from 2007 suggest he could a 25-30 guy. Throw in a nice average, and you have a pretty solid late round "sleeper." Though Im not sure what the heck happened with the speed. Was there an injury? -------------------- Stephen Strasburg is good.

Tdavis20 View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:23 PM Post #2
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 4,232 Joined: 6-July 07 From: Texas Member No.: 3,567	Catch me up, 2nd basemen for Indians right? -------------------- Team 1 standard H2H league QB- Matt Schaub RB- Adrian Peterson, Ronnie Brown (B) WR- Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston (A), Devin Hester (A) TE- Greg Olson K- Nick Folk D/ST- GB Packers Bench- Kevin Walter, Brett Favre, Jonathan Stewart, TJ Houshmanzadeh A)- Traded A. Rodgers for Colston and Hester B)- Traded R. Grant and M. Crabtree for R. Brown Team 2 standard H2H league QB- Matt Ryan RB- Adrian Peterson, Ronnie Brown WR- Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, Roy Williams TE- Brent Celek* K- Rob Bironas W/R- Beanie Wells* D/ST- GB Packers Bench- NY Giants, Jamaal Charles, Vernon Davis, Kevin Walter, Mike Bell, Laurence Maroney

sandman0803 View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:23 PM Post #3
Superstar Group: Established Members Posts: 1,351 Joined: 11-April 07 From: Arlington, Member No.: 1,579	I checked around and I didn't see an injury...He had pretty high strikeout numbers in the post season, perhaps he had a hard time reading big league pitching? -------------------- I have too many teams to put in my signature... :-\

LinceArmStrong View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:25 PM Post #4
pronounced Lin-ceh-cum Group: Established Members Posts: 16,185 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 1,924	QUOTE (Tdavis20 @ Feb 16 2008, 11:23 PM) Catch me up, 2nd basemen for Indians right? yup, he had about 25 steals in 400 ab's last year in the minors, then nothing with the indians. he could be a 300/10 guy with about 30 steals if the speed is legit. plus if he remains in the 2 hole, lots of runs as well...very good sleeper if the sb's are there... This post has been edited by csquared: Feb 16 2008, 11:26 PM -------------------- Stephen Strasburg is good.

LinceArmStrong View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:27 PM Post #5
pronounced Lin-ceh-cum Group: Established Members Posts: 16,185 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 1,924	QUOTE (sandman0803 @ Feb 16 2008, 11:23 PM) I checked around and I didn't see an injury...He had pretty high strikeout numbers in the post season, perhaps he had a hard time reading big league pitching? he didnt even attempt a stolen base... -------------------- Stephen Strasburg is good.

max_murder View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:27 PM Post #6
Hall of Famer Group: Established Members Posts: 5,068 Joined: 9-March 07 From: Brooklyn Member No.: 852	Maybe it was confidence/manager confidence in the position after Barfield had been benched. With the position clearly his going into '08 I expect him to run. -------------------- they bought it

sandman0803 View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:30 PM Post #7
Superstar Group: Established Members Posts: 1,351 Joined: 11-April 07 From: Arlington, Member No.: 1,579	QUOTE (csquared @ Feb 16 2008, 11:27 PM) he didnt even attempt a stolen base... Yeah, that is odd...Let's hope whatever it was is fixed and he at least tries to swip a base or two in spring training. -------------------- I have too many teams to put in my signature... :-\

LinceArmStrong View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:30 PM Post #8
pronounced Lin-ceh-cum Group: Established Members Posts: 16,185 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 1,924	QUOTE (max_murder @ Feb 16 2008, 11:27 PM) Maybe it was confidence/manager confidence in the position after Barfield had been benched. With the position clearly his going into '08 I expect him to run. this is something to pay attention to in spring..if hes batting second and swipes a few bags, you have a legit sleeper guy. perfect backup guy with upside to start later in the year.... This post has been edited by csquared: Feb 16 2008, 11:30 PM -------------------- Stephen Strasburg is good.

Tdavis20 View Member Profile	Feb 16 2008, 11:30 PM Post #9
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 4,232 Joined: 6-July 07 From: Texas Member No.: 3,567	K thats the guy I thought, almost drafted him as a backup and the sleeper tag but got Yuvel Escobar instead. That is weird he ran so much in the minors and didnt when he got moved up. Maybe they wouldnt let him run.. no idea though ill try and find out -------------------- Team 1 standard H2H league QB- Matt Schaub RB- Adrian Peterson, Ronnie Brown (B) WR- Calvin Johnson, Marques Colston (A), Devin Hester (A) TE- Greg Olson K- Nick Folk D/ST- GB Packers Bench- Kevin Walter, Brett Favre, Jonathan Stewart, TJ Houshmanzadeh A)- Traded A. Rodgers for Colston and Hester B)- Traded R. Grant and M. Crabtree for R. Brown Team 2 standard H2H league QB- Matt Ryan RB- Adrian Peterson, Ronnie Brown WR- Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, Roy Williams TE- Brent Celek* K- Rob Bironas W/R- Beanie Wells* D/ST- GB Packers Bench- NY Giants, Jamaal Charles, Vernon Davis, Kevin Walter, Mike Bell, Laurence Maroney

Wizard of Boz View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 02:18 AM Post #10
Hall of Famer Group: Moderators Posts: 7,133 Joined: 24-April 07 From: Boston Member No.: 1,980	As Im sure you already know Csq, Im a huge fan of Asdrubal. This kid has shown that he has the tools to play in the bigs in only 45 games. He struggled a bit in the playoffs but he finished the regular season with great numbers. I as well dont understand his stolen base situation. He is an excellent fielder and I think its his spot to lose even though he is a natural SS. He is my 2008 sleeper considering what he did in just 45 games. I see him producing alot of runs in that Indians lineup. -------------------- "I don't say these things because I believe in the "brute" nature of man or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle — victorious." - V. Lombardi

PhantasyPhreak58... PhantasyPhreak5821 View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 03:04 AM Post #11
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 4,856 Joined: 17-April 07 From: W-S Member No.: 1,767	honestly he needs to steal some bases. i agree he would make a nice late round pick, if he steals bases. otherwise, he will merely be a late round pick ready to be dropped for the first hot player offf of waivers. -------------------- PG-Dwayne Wade SG-Danny Granger G-Rajon Rondo SF-Josh Smith PF-Gerald Wallace F-Boris Diaw C-Joakim Noah, Emeka Okafor UTIL-Jermaine O'Neal, Corey Maggette Bench- Francisco Garcia, Mike Dunleavy,Terrence Williams, Earl Clark, DeJuan Blair, Udonis Haslem, Steve Blake, Robin Lopez Black Hole Dynasty Hoops Champ! 2008-09

LinceArmStrong View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 12:42 PM Post #12
pronounced Lin-ceh-cum Group: Established Members Posts: 16,185 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 1,924	QUOTE (PhantasyPhreak5821 @ Feb 17 2008, 03:04 AM) honestly he needs to steal some bases. i agree he would make a nice late round pick, if he steals bases. otherwise, he will merely be a late round pick ready to be dropped for the first hot player off of waivers. exactly - what he did in 45 games in the bigs was nothing special. he showed the ability to hit for a nice average, but with no power in the pedigree, he better run or else he will be a drop candidate. -------------------- Stephen Strasburg is good.

LinceArmStrong View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 12:44 PM Post #13
pronounced Lin-ceh-cum Group: Established Members Posts: 16,185 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 1,924	QUOTE (Wizard of Boz @ Feb 17 2008, 02:18 AM) As Im sure you already know Csq, Im a huge fan of Asdrubal. This kid has shown that he has the tools to play in the bigs in only 45 games. He struggled a bit in the playoffs but he finished the regular season with great numbers. I as well dont understand his stolen base situation. He is an excellent fielder and I think its his spot to lose even though he is a natural SS. He is my 2008 sleeper considering what he did in just 45 games. I see him producing alot of runs in that Indians lineup. ehh...if he had 10 steals sprinkled in, that would have looked great. the avg and runs scored were solid, but no steals is a red flag to me... -------------------- Stephen Strasburg is good.

Go Texans Go View Member Profile	Feb 17 2008, 12:45 PM Post #14
All-Time Great Group: Established Members Posts: 12,073 Joined: 23-July 07 From: H-Town Member No.: 3,875	QUOTE (csquared @ Feb 17 2008, 11:44 AM) ehh...if he had 10 steals sprinkled in, that would have looked great. the avg and runs scored were solid, but no steals is a red flag to me... that's excactly what scares me! -------------------- 12 Team, PPR, non-keeper Everyone in () is on my bench... Qb - Schaub (Flacco) 3 WR - AJ, Calvin, J. Knox (D. Avery, Cribbs, Bennett, L. Moore) 2 RB - Kevin Smith, Ryan Grant (L. Mccoy, C. Williams. S. Greene) TE - Olsen WR/RB - F. Jackson K - Week by Week Rotation (Normally a MNF K) DEF - Houston

Tajumper450 View Member Profile	Apr 4 2008, 09:16 AM Post #15
Superstar Group: Established Members Posts: 2,217 Joined: 19-February 08 Member No.: 15,453	Anyone have any more information on this guy? I'm thinking that he could provide good value at 2B/SS but it's tough to tell if he will be running this year. -------------------- deleted sig - too long

Go Texans Go View Member Profile	May 12 2008, 08:16 PM Post #16
All-Time Great Group: Established Members Posts: 12,073 Joined: 23-July 07 From: H-Town Member No.: 3,875	for all of those who have defensive categories and one of them is a unassisted triple play, well u got one from asdrubal tonite...i think it's safe to say u won that category! This post has been edited by Go Texans Go: May 12 2008, 08:17 PM -------------------- 12 Team, PPR, non-keeper Everyone in () is on my bench... Qb - Schaub (Flacco) 3 WR - AJ, Calvin, J. Knox (D. Avery, Cribbs, Bennett, L. Moore) 2 RB - Kevin Smith, Ryan Grant (L. Mccoy, C. Williams. S. Greene) TE - Olsen WR/RB - F. Jackson K - Week by Week Rotation (Normally a MNF K) DEF - Houston

Lets Go Mets View Member Profile	May 12 2008, 08:18 PM Post #17
Superstar Group: Members Posts: 1,397 Joined: 15-April 08 From: Behind the Bag Member No.: 16,464	QUOTE (Go Texans Go @ May 12 2008, 09:16 PM) for all of those who have defensive categories and on eof them is a unassisted triple play, well u got one from asdruabl tonite...i think it's safe to say u won that category! He also hit his 1st HR of the season in game 1 of the double header. I actually drafted this guy...but dropped him long ago. -------------------- 10 team mixed H2H 5X5 redraft league: C Geovany Soto 1B Garrett Atkins 2B Howie Kendrick 3B Alex Rodriguez SS J.J. Hardy OF Grady Sizemore OF Carlos Quentin OF Manny Ramirez Util Curtis Granderson Util Adam LaRoche Bench: Johnny Damon, Evan Longoria, Torii Hunter SP: Carlos Zambrano, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Rich Harden, Ervin Santana, Edinson Volquez, Mark Lowe, Mike Pelfrey RP: Kerry Wood, B.J. Ryan, Jonathan Broxton "Little roller up along first - BEHIND THE BAG! IT GETS THROUGH BUCKNER! HERE COMES KNIGHT AND THE METS WIN IT!"

os_gamejunkie View Member Profile	May 13 2008, 05:30 AM Post #18
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 3,118 Joined: 12-May 07 From: Tokyo, Japan Member No.: 2,472	QUOTE (Lets Go Mets @ May 12 2008, 09:18 PM) He also hit his 1st HR of the season in game 1 of the double header. I actually drafted this guy...but dropped him long ago. Owned him in dynasty league hoping for at something shy of Orlando Hudson numbers, but it's looking more like Tim Hudson's line. Wonder if they'll ever give Josh Barfield another shot. -------------------- *Hyperbole

BoSox04 View Member Profile	May 13 2008, 07:32 AM Post #19
Hall of Famer Group: Established Members Posts: 5,963 Joined: 6-July 07 Member No.: 3,584	i just dropped him two days ago...prolly shoulda dropped him long before but anyway since i dropped him he will out perform any other second basemen so you are all very welcome! -------------------- 10 Team, non-ppr, IDP [QB] Matt Ryan [RB] DeAngelo Williams [RB] Marion Barber [RB/WR] Rashard Mendenhall [WR] Randy Moss [WR] Anquan Boldin [TE] Vernon Davis [K] (always changes) [LB] Jon Beason, DJ Williams [DL] Julius Peppers\|Robert Mathis [DB] Sabby Piscitelli\|Brian Dawkins [DP] DeMarcus Ware\|Will Witherspoon BENCH [QB] Matt Hasselbeck [RB] Donald Brown\|LeSean McCoy\|Beanie Wells\|Shonn Greene [WR] Santonio Holmes\|Steve Breaston\|Jeremy Maclin

Greyhound View Member Profile	May 13 2008, 11:50 AM Post #20
Triple-A Group: Members Posts: 87 Joined: 6-April 08 Member No.: 16,264	QUOTE (os_gamejunkie @ May 13 2008, 06:30 AM) Owned him in dynasty league hoping for at something shy of Orlando Hudson numbers, but it's looking more like Tim Hudson's line. Wonder if they'll ever give Josh Barfield another shot. Asdrubal is a remarkable defensive player. His natural position is SS. Barfield will get a shot at some point but not at the expense of Asdrubal. Something will have to be done with Peralta, traded or moved to 3B, before Barfield comes up and plays everyday. -------------------- C - Russell Martin 1B - C. Jackson, Giambi 2B - Utley, BJ Upton SS - HanRam, Tulo 3B - David Wright OF - Sizemore, Nady, Upton, Bradley, C. Ross SP - Verlander, Danks, Jeremy Guthrie, Matt Garza, U. Jimenez, Sonnanstine RP - Rivera, Cordero (Cin), Wilson, Raffy Perez DL - Wainwright

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