Santonio Holmes Options

[al3x]

hey what are your projections for holmes
stats:receptions, yrds and td's

[LinceArmStrong]

70 for 1100 (10 TD's)

[al3x]

lets keep it up

i was thinking
70 to 75 rec for around 1200 yards and 10 td's

[dre]

So I shouldn't trade him huh?

[al3x]

dre i am having the same problem me and someone started talking and he wants holmes and chester taylor for steve smith. i am thinkin about doing it..... but i will lose a wr for the first 2 weeks...... and i tihkn him and steve smith wqill put up about the same numbers.... but smith will do it in less games.. and who knows about delhomme after TJ

[dre]

dre i am having the same problem me and someone started talking and he wants holmes and chester taylor for steve smith. i am thinkin about doing it..... but i will lose a wr for the first 2 weeks...... and i tihkn him and steve smith wqill put up about the same numbers.... but smith will do it in less games.. and who knows about delhomme after TJ

Yeah, I'm trying to use him to upgrade my RB2 position.

[dsmoke1986]

70 for 1100 (10 TD's)

That sounds about right...If you extrapolate his #'s from last year over the course of 16 games(Because he only played in 13), you would get:

68 receptions, 1159.5 yds, 10 tds.

That's his 2nd year, and a jump in those #'s should be expected for a 3rd year wideout. So I would say 75-80 catches for 1250-1300 yards and 10 tds.

I have been reading quotes from their OC Arians, and they are supposedly going to be using him more on underneath patterns.

I like him this year, he could be a top 12 wr.

[MustacheToes]

Damn, those are some huge projections from him. I think he can do it, I just think teams are going to focus more on him then Ward this year. Ward is a shell of himself and had the fewest 20+ receptions in his career last year. Add another year of hits, I believe he had some knee surgeries, and you're going to end up with more coverage on Holmes. I think he will have a nice year, no doubt. I just don't see him reaching those projections. I would say 70 for 850 and 6 TDs. I know it's pretty low, but I think defenses by week 3 will really start to key on him in the passing game and I don't see him being good enough yet to exploit double coverages.

[dsmoke1986]

But they added Limas Sweed too, he is a much more formidable option than Nate Washington/Cedric Wilson, no?

[MustacheToes]

But they added Limas Sweed too, he is a much more formidable option than Nate Washington/Cedric Wilson, no?

Yes, but how often to rookie WRs make an impact in their 1st year? I don't think Sweed is going to relieve Holmes of any pressure until his 2nd year. Wouldn't entirely shock me if he did, but I wouldn't be banking on that happening.

[RustyGator]

Damn, those are some huge projections from him. I think he can do it, I just think teams are going to focus more on him then Ward this year. Ward is a shell of himself and had the fewest 20+ receptions in his career last year. Add another year of hits, I believe he had some knee surgeries, and you're going to end up with more coverage on Holmes. I think he will have a nice year, no doubt. I just don't see him reaching those projections. I would say 70 for 850 and 6 TDs. I know it's pretty low, but I think defenses by week 3 will really start to key on him in the passing game and I don't see him being good enough yet to exploit double coverages.

I think 850 is a little low (espeically considering what he did last year missing a few games), but I also think 1200 might be a little high for the reasons you stated. We can all call it a split at 1000 yards and 8 TDs.

[Golden Monkey]

1,100-1,200 yards and 8-10 TD's. Ward is getting old in the tooth. Holmes is the deep threat and red zone target.

[bwowls]

1,100-1,200 yards and 8-10 TD's. Ward is getting old in the tooth. Holmes is the deep threat and red zone target.

I think you mean LONG in the tooth, right?

[Golden Monkey]

I think you mean LONG in the tooth, right?

HaHaHaHa.....yeah.

[MustacheToes]

Do you guys honestly think he is a good RDZ threat though? He doesn't have size and is working too small of a field to beat a CB deep in most instances. Also, he isn't phsyical like Ward which sets up well in the RDZ. I think he's a decent RDZ threat, but not double digit TD type.

[Golden Monkey]

Do you guys honestly think he is a good RDZ threat though? He doesn't have size and is working too small of a field to beat a CB deep in most instances. Also, he isn't phsyical like Ward which sets up well in the RDZ. I think he's a decent RDZ threat, but not double digit TD type.

He averaged 18.1 yards per catch and had 15 catches for 20-plus yards with eight touchdowns (942 yds.) last season. Keep in mind he missed 2 or 3 games and I think 1,100 yds. and 10 TD's is easily attainable. He was the #20 WR last year. I don't know why people aren't higher on this guy. That's cool. It allowed me to draft him as my #2.

[whiskeyriver]

65 for 1100 and 8 TDs

[Br0kenB]

He is my WR3 behind Fitz and Colston.

[LinceArmStrong]

He is my WR3 behind Fitz and Colston.

and thats saying???? lol

do you start 3 wr's?.....i dont see the thoughts or projections.

This post has been edited by LinceArmStrong: Aug 29 2008, 08:08 PM

[Br0kenB]

I don't know. I'm acting weird on the forums, looking for praise since I'm at a draft right now and kind of nervous. Just disregard whatever I post for the next half hour or so.