I havent watched the games but Brad Miller coming back has helped him and the Kings? Also Beno had been shrugging off injuries from preseason. Anyway you slice it I like what I'm seeing in the boxscores!

Lighting up my bench. Had a pending waiver request to drop him for Hawes. Changed it to Q Rich for Hawes a few minutes ago.

keep in mind he's getting extra shots due to Kevin Martin being out.

Good point but at least the minutes are there at PG and he's producing. Would you drop Roger Mason Jr. for him? Udrih has more upside for the year while Mason looks better for the another month especially with his threes.

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forgot about kmart being out

Two things.

1. He was hurt in preseason and didn't look right coming out of the gate. He wasn't getting by anyone in the first few games. Tonight, he was consistently taking Baron off of the dribble and looked very quick.

2. I said last week in other threads that Brad is very important to Udrih (and K-mart). One of the things that Brad does best (maybe the best in the league) is set the high pick. That is what frees up Udrih to drive to the hoop and also what often helps K-mart get so many foul calls as well. Miller is a like a rock up high and holds the pick very well for a long time. Hawes will get there, but doesn't have that part to his game yet. They missed Brad a great deal and ever since he came back, Udrih has looked like a different player as he has his high pick man to free him up top and get him easy shots or drives to the hoop.



I let him get by me on two waiver wires. I should have known better.

Udrih looks like a poor man's Jose Calderon. And I mean that in a flattering way.


Sacramento is going to be a very fantasy friendly team this season.

2 words = KEVIN MARTIN.


Beno still sucks.

Have to agree here. In both of my 12 team leagues, I see him bouncing on and off waivers all season long. I won't partake.

Beno is only good for the very short time.
Once Kevin Martin comes back in a week, Beno's gonna revert back to worthlessness.

Brad Miller on the other hand... i'm so happy i just recently traded Corey Maggette for B.Miller. Miller is exactly what i need on my team.
and eventho it "seemed" like i was giving up too much for him, i really think i'm getting the better end of the deal.

Beno will be solid, not great, but solid. decent percentages, decent assist to turnover ratio. decent everything.

12 - 14 points, 5 - 6 assists, a three, a steal and less than 3 turnovers a game; is solid, not great but solid.


If he's on your WW go get him, there is good value there.


The only thing that worries me in SacTown is that if they actually get everybody healthy, their won't be enough to go around. They are pretty deep and pretty injury prone everywhere.....granted the jury is still out on garcia and udrih's durability, but martin and miller can't stay on the court.

I'd still take him over someone like Ridnour any day.

shoot! i have ridnour and beno it my team sniff. but i do have kobe, mike miller, roy to help in my assist

I'm not saying Ridnour is THAT bad. He'll still give you assists. I'm just saying - I've seen what Udrih can do when given 30+ mins, and he can definitely give you more than Ridnour with the same mins (with more consistency too).

This coming from someone who owns Delonte West. Beno is just as good if not better then Delonte.

I want Udrih on my team but can't find a way to get him there...he's sitting on waivers begging me to pick him up and I can't do it...

Yeah, you don't have much room for him unless you want to drop Felton but he's been solid so far.

See my reply to your topic in the Assistant Coaches section.

beno or jameer nelson?

Delonte is nailing 3's and has great FG% this year. i'm not saying he's great, but for a WW pickup, he's solid.

Udrih on the other hand, has 1 fluke good game, and now the world thinks he's god.

where was Udrih during the first 8 games? no where to be found.

Kevin Martin's absence is the sole reason why Udrih had a great game last night. wait til Martin comes back in a few days, and you'll see Beno revert back to crap again.

I just dropped Delonte for Beno actually. (it was between him and Jameer Nelson)

I'm not a huge fan of Udrich at all. Not this season or ever, but I'll bet he puts up some good quick numbers, then I'll pick up the next hot hand when Martin kills his production.

Ridnour is worthless IMO. I'd take West or Udrih over him.

I am pulling the trigger on Jameer b/c he is the better long term pick-up and is going to get 30+ min every night.
(I play in a 40 limit league)

Once Garcia is back he will steal some minutes from beno.

Who's pouncing on him? Just picked him up as I need assts. Projections:12 pts 5 assts cheap 3's too

i just grabbed him in my league. i too am in need of assists and 3's. i'd be very happy with those projections!

i added Beno....although i am punching myself in the face repeatedly for dropping Tyreke a few days ago. I need the assists my other PG's are Calderon and Duhon....puke. so before this KevMart injury i was considering punting assists, but hopefully Beno can produce some and Calderon can get his $hit together.

Debating dropping Alston for Beno...but I do need 3s as well as the assists.....but really is there a difference? That's like asking what is the difference between cat sh*t and dog sh*t...

Well my friend, one is bigger, that's the difference...

Basically this is the swap I just made. I cant take Rafer anymore. He is as prone to the 0-7 shooting games as he is the 10-15 shooting gms. Way too streaky for me so I just dumped. Beno seems more reliable. Shooting very well in the early going

All right, I'm in. Need a body over the weekend, let's see if he merits a spot after that.

I was thinking about picking up Udrih.

I currently have Foye and Gomes that I could drop. Are any of these guys worth dropping for Udrih?

Isn't Miller out? Foye is productive fantasy-wise when he gets minutes

It's eerie how much of this thread just as easily applies to this year as last.

I am also thinking about dropping gomes, brewer or TT

dropped brandon rush for him since my only other PGs were Westbrook and AI

Udrih or Speights?

What happens when Kmart returns?

Okay so according to BBM Beno was ranked 129 last yr. Thats not really good...

Is he even worth a roster spot in a 12 team league...

I am not happy with some of my players but...129?

so say u play in a 12 team league with 12 man rosters. that equals 144 players rostered. i mean no one said hes goin to save your team. but if u need 5 assts and cheap 3's, hes ur man. i took a flier on him in a 12 team league but rosters are deep

is his guy worth more than Nocioni? i'm thinking about dumping him for Beno but i'm not quite sure yet.

shouldn't punch yourself, cuz tyreke wasn't lacking shots with Martin being around, he just had a tough time shooting for a high percentage. I personally think his value stays the same, less assist, less tos, a little more shots, but poor fg%

someone convince me that this guy is worth adding, even in deeper leagues...I drafted him last year and he was a failure. besides the assists, he is a turnover machine and he never averaged more than .8 3PTM a game in his career...looks like a pretty mediocre option at best, even if his playing time is increased.

Just dropped Ty Thomas for Beno.

Hopefully he turns out to be waiver wire gold!!

Ehh, something about Udrih doesn't get me very excited. Yes he may be able to put up serviceable PPG/APG/3PTM numbers, but talk about low ceiling - 12PPG/5APG/1-3PTM sounds right.

the point is he's probably going to play 30mins a game, which means he'll produce. unless there are superstars on the wavier, i really don't understand why people should complain. production is production, it don't matter where or who it comes from.

he averaged 31 mpg last year and had 11pts/<5assists to show for it, with 2+ turnovers. I dont think its that great of production, especially in shallower leagues.

that's true but compare those numbers to the year before and you'll see where i'm coming from. besides, 11 and 5 is pretty damn good for a waiver wire pick up, especially if the guy will constantly do that for 2 months. with the new offense in Sacramento Beno should be much better than 11/5.

i'll be watching a close eye on his first game and see what develops.

For some reason, I think Udrih will start at sg, not pg. The Kings seem pretty determined to make Evans their pg, and putting him at sg would only slow his development in that regard.

If he starts at sg, he'll probably score more, but wont come close to averaging 5 assists a game. We'll see though.

Tyreke Evans is a wade/kobe type player that needs the ball in his hands to succeed. It doesnt matter if hes the pg or the sg, he will still have the rock in his hands a lot. Kings will run some plays for Udrih and some for Evans. They will probably use Evans slashing ability more (replacing kmart's role) and udrih as the guy that can knock down the open shot and run pick and rolls. Anyways, Udrih does have value in 12+ leagues since its hard to find guys that wont hurt you in %'s and dish out 5 dimes. If he can get his 3 pointers over 1 a game, he will have pretty good value.

Looks like I was wrong. Udrih is starting pg. I hate that decision, considering Reke was supposed to learn the position. the team has nothing to lose. they'll be the worst team in the league w/o martin...

great news for beno tho.

All I know is that I picked him up in a 13-team league with deep rosters so I hope he's productive with Martin out. I'm not asking for or expecting too much, but he's but up decent numbers in the past when he's gotten minutes, so he should do the trick for me.

I know what you mean, but that just didn't look right.

Did someone just compare Tyreke Evans to Wade or Kobe? Please. I'm more impressed with Johnny Flynn and Brandon Jennings so far.