Does anyone have a feeling that the draftig of Gerald Henderson is going to really open up things nicely for where Diaw works most his game? I just really think mow with Emeka down low, Crash slashing, and now Henderson with the mid-range and outside game that Diaw will now see an uptick across the board. It just seemed that last year at times there were too many guys all in the same area working as one disfinctional group. I'd really like to see him now come to camp in shape for once and ready to truly breakout for good. He is still pretty young as well, I think around 26 or 27 with not a ton of burn on the legs. What do you guys think?

Personally I don't share this feeling with you.. Gerald Henderson doesn't possess that much of a "mid-range and outside game" in my opinion, and since he's a rookie playing under Larry Brown I don't think he will get substantial minutes. I don't think he will have a significant if any impact on Diaw's statistics.

I do think Diaw will be a good 5th/6th round player though.

i think diaw could have a great year in 2009/2010. i am going to target him in most of my drafts.
typically i draft light on PGs and try to make up for that by draft guys like diaw and hedo. - guys that get assists and don't play PG.
but that is my strategy..

16-5-5-50%fgs with some steals and blocks. He may flirt with the 1 steal-1trey-1 block club. His to's and lack of rebounding as PF are irritating, but what do you expect for a 5th-6th rounder. Solid potential, but I'd rather take a chance on a guy like Charlie Villanueva in mid rounds.

charlie v or diaw - now there is a tough one.
i suppose that choice my hinge depending on where yahoo ranks 'em. i would like to get both of those guys with a 6th and 7th round pick..but like you said, more likely 5th or 6th...
i would probably still go with diaw, if i had to pick one.
i would also have to guess charlie v would struggle the first few weeks of the season, and he may be able to be had for cheap.
but i like charlie v for next year - fo sure

Now I'm not saying Henderson is the greatest pure shooter out there if that's how it came off. I think a better way of putting it would be that he is great at creating his own shot with his athleticism. Last year it was often you'd see Diaw, Crash, and Emeka all clogged up down in the paint. Then you'd have Felton running things and teams prefer that he tosses up a shot so defenders werent always keyed in on him either. Aside from that alot of the time they would just have a 3 point specialist floating around the line. It really would take away from Diaws ability to do what he does best. Now I'm not saying that Henderson has a shot like Kevin Martin or anything, but I am saying e wim be an aprovement and help to Diaw. You do bring up a good point about Brown though, being a rookie might really screw this idea up and it could even be argued that is the likely scenario. I just think he will get kore PT even ring under Brown as a Rook Being there really isn't anyone at all at the moment to play his role.

Either charlie or Gordon is going to be the primary scorer on that team. I like Charlie's situation just a bit more, but it a wicked tough decision to choose between the two players...

I have a feeling Gordon will lead the team in scoring but Charlie V will probably have more value as he's able to contribute in other categories...

Isn't anyone worried that Diaw will produce worse stats next year? I've got a bad feeling about him for the 09/10 season for some reason...

Gordon is going tk be gettig to be that teams primary scorer, and I don't think CV would be his best if that's what he was trying to do.

Are you basin a bad season for Diaw off anything or just a hunch? After the trade he averaged 15.1 PPG, 1.2 3PM, 0.8 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 5.9 RPG, 4.9 APG, and 3 TO/GMwbile shooting 49% from the field and 68% from the line.

FG - Diaw by a fairly large margin
FT - CV by alarge margin
3PM - =
PTS - slight edge to CV
REB - based off last year, slight edge to CV, but could be =
AST - Diaw by a large margin
TO - CV wins based off last year, but Diaw had his worst year yet in this cat so could easily improve to normal standards which would make them even here
BLK & SPG are both =
3P% is Diaws by a large margin for those wh use it

I care more if Diaw actually has C status or not first before I can decide where he drafted. That C status makes a difference of at least a round in my mind, maybe two

The only thing that would suck is to put up with his pitiful rebounding numbers at the C position if a GM were to play him there exclusively.

But the option to put him there alone is worth the extra round or two.

in H2H where you could punt rebounds some weeks or totally. a injury replacement or just those weeks when your starting center has 2 games.

The C eligibility definitely wouldn't hurt, but I agree that he would generaly be a weak play there and definitely wouldn't plan for him as you C. Luckily I have Amare, Biedrins, and Shaq in the league I also have Diaw in.

yo say it's weak now, but wouldn't it be a huge difference if Amare was hurt and Shaq had a 2 game week. Your choice would be to slide Diaw into your C spot and whatever WW SF/SG you can find or having no Diaw at C and sliding whatever FA C is out there, lets go with someone like Wilcox or DeAndre Jordan, Petro. Because those are the Center that are on the FA mid season.....

Ha. Good point

I see what you're saying, but the. You also have to consider that you may be starting someone like Brandon Bass now at SF because you moved Diaw to C. FWIW I was and have been talking in regards to my league settings on This topic which is on espn and Diaw is not C listed.

Its just a weird hunch that I have about him... I absolutely loved him when I swept him up in my two leagues last year but I feel like the surprise factor of him producing with what he did make last year was a one-and-done thing... Kinda like Dampier's 1 fantasy friendly year in GSW...

fair enough, we all getthosr gut feelings. I like how he has done it itln the past though and is a nightly trip-dub threat.

Bass >>> Petro finding a decent fill in at SF is a lot better then a C fill in. WW pick up for SG/SF and being semi productive happens often, fill in for C not so much.

With C status 4th/5th round seem fair for me for Diaw. without C status 5th/6th range I guess.

Larry Brown mentioned that Boris is overweight !
Crap hopefully this doesn't lead to another down year for Boris

I'm not too worry about Diaw. He sprained his left ankle while playing for the French national team over the summer and was inactive for 5 weeks or so. He still has time to get into game shape. He might start the season slow, but I doubt he'll regress like he did in Phoenix.

Cmon guys. Diaw is gonna be huge this year. This is a "Larry Brown" coached team we are talking about. Throw it to the post and create from there. Let's see...Okafor is gone. Throw it to Chandler? Throw it to Mohammed? The offense will go thru Diaw and Diaw will be the 1st option!

Are you holding on some breaking news about Crash being traded that we don't know about?

I didn't read anything about overweight. I heard he's out of shape, which would be quite typical of someone coming off of an ankle sprain. He probably hasn't done an NBA level workout since June.

Overweight means he's been sitting around eating pastries at la Boulonge. Out of shape means he hasn't been able to do significant cardio work in a while.

Big difference in my opinion.

for taking him in the later rounds of a draft, he is totally worth it.
he should be fine this year. especially with tyson chandler being the starting center.
and
if you are unable to draft him, he would a good buy low guy - assuming he starts off slow.

Uh, last i looked...Crash plays on weakside. most his points are putbacks and when the ball is rotated.

I was about the post the same thing too... glad somebody actually watches the game instead of just the box scores.

I think he's a lock for 15PPG/5RPG/5APG if he can stay healthy. He also has the chance to get pretty close to joining the 1-3pt/1spg/1bpg club.

Only downside of course is the massive amounts of turnovers hes going to have, but he should be a middle-round value monster if you are thinking of punting TO's.

I am in that exact position with my team. If he could C eligibility it would be huge.

Last year i thought he was C eligible?

Has anyone seen him play this year? I am thinking about benching him tomorrow...

I figured Brown has big plans for Diaw this year.

Expected numbers this season for Diaw?

16.5ppg-6.rpg-5.1 apg-49%fgs-72%fts-1.1 3ptm-.9 steals-.9 blocks-2.7 tos

Thoughts?

i have him benched for now...he's going against the celtics, so that won't help him.

Looks about right to me. I think he will avg 3TO and shoot under 70%FT, but he should be able to help in every cat which is very valuable.

It funny he never averaged over 3 tos per season in PHX. The year that amare was out for the season and he started the whole year he averaged only 2.3. Any chance he can stay below 3 tos?

Nash dominates the ball in Phx so much that its hard for most other players to get excessive amounts of to. In contrast, the Bobcats will run a good amount of offense through Diaw which is where the to's come from.

Nice projection. I expect 2.5 TOs also.

The Suns ran a good amount of their offense through diaw the year Amare was hurt. They must have been running the offense through him in large volume or how else would you explain the 6 asissts he averaged per game that year? The reality is the tos were less in the familair offense. I think a lot of his tos came from the new system in Charlotte. I suspect that they will drop some this year.

Diaw's avg To by month last season in Charlotte.

Dec 3.2
Jan 2.7
Feb 3.2
Mar 3.0
Apr 2.4

He played around the same minutes for each month so if April is any indication, he might be getting use to the system. I think your projection for his TO might be more accurate.

You mean mine?

Is anyone starting him tonight in their daily league?

I am, who wouldn't?

Up against Boston...Haven't really seen him play pre-season and i am starting k-mart(den) over him

People expecting a nice bounce-back game tonight facing the Knicks? Poor stat line last game but the whole team was dreadful. Seems like if there's anytime to start Diaw it's versus the Knicks.

If one doesn't find him worthy of a start vs. the Knicks then he really shouldn't be on the roster.

good line tonight: 17pts, 11 rebs, 6 asts, 2 stls, 2 blocks

diaw is such a stud. he was a huge value if he went anywhere near his yahoo rank of 89. he shouldve been going in the 40-50 range imo. i was heartbroken when he got taken 1 pick before me

Definitely a stud.

He looked great last night.

Even though the game went into double OT he accumulated most of his stats in regulation. Hoping for a performance like this every time he faces the Knicks.

Love Diaw, but I'm sittin all my Bobcats tonight after all the minutes they played last night.

i'm watching CHA-NJ......why is Diaw so FAT this season ???

what happened ??

he reminds me Oliver Miller