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Yell_42
How do we see him going in his 2nd season?

I think the following numbers are a good estimate -

18ppg
6 apg
5 rpg
2 spg

And hopefully he gets his FG% over 40%, and starts cutting down his turnovers.


Are those numbers a fair projection? Could he get to 20ppg even? Too optimistic?
Denbo32
I think the 2 steals is a bit on the very high side. 1.5 would be realistic. the jump from 1.3 to 2 is pretty large.

I would be willing to bump him up to 7 assists and 6 rebounds really. the TO FG% are going to be huge problems tho.
Code of Hammurabi
20 ppg too much with durant he and green shouldering the load, not to mention Harden on board now

QUOTE (Yell_42 @ Sep 17 2009, 07:33 AM) *
How do we see him going in his 2nd season?

I think the following numbers are a good estimate -

18ppg
6 apg
5 rpg
2 spg

And hopefully he gets his FG% over 40%, and starts cutting down his turnovers.


Are those numbers a fair projection? Could he get to 20ppg even? Too optimistic?
Denbo32
QUOTE (Code of Hammurabi @ Sep 17 2009, 03:27 PM) *
20 ppg too much with durant he and green shouldering the load, not to mention Harden on board now


While I do think 20 ppg is high for westbrook, it not because of Durant and Green. Plenty of teams have had 3 high scoring players.

The Wizards have done it for years as has GS and PHO granted those are the high paced teams in the leauge but also the Celtics, and Spurs have done it with 3 stars.
Code of Hammurabi
Agree with your comment. However, I dont think he will get there. Im staying away unless value is compelling. The fg%, tos, and lack of threes are tough pills to swallow to make him work. I can live with poor perfromance in 2 of the 3 but not all.......

QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:33 PM) *
While I do think 20 ppg is high for westbrook, it not because of Durant and Green. Plenty of teams have had 3 high scoring players.

The Wizards have done it for years as has GS and PHO granted those are the high paced teams in the leauge but also the Celtics, and Spurs have done it with 3 stars.
Denbo32
Westbrook is a player I'm waivering back and forth alot on.

I like the upside, and believe the TO and FG% can both improve. Rookie PG often struggle and improve alot in their 2nd year as well as the third.

Using a 7th round pick on Westbrook seems fair to me.
Code of Hammurabi
I like him early 8th if my team is set up well enough to absorb the fg%, tos and lack of threes. If not I will pass. It will totally be a situational call for me on drafts day.

QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:52 PM) *
Westbrook is a player I'm waivering back and forth alot on.

I like the upside, and believe the TO and FG% can both improve. Rookie PG often struggle and improve alot in their 2nd year as well as the third.

Using a 7th round pick on Westbrook seems fair to me.
hornrimmed_rambis
Westbrook's biggest problem last year was fg%, which is common for young PGs. But if you look more closely at the numbers, his fg% as a starter was 7 percentage points higher than when he was a sub (41% vs. 34%). That's big. At 41%, and going up, he is not a category killer. For a smallball team, with the high steals, he is gold.
NUPE_1911
Not a fan of Westbrook for fantasy purposes. The abominable fg% and to's are just too much even for a late-mid to late round pick. I don't think 20 ppg is likely whatsoever either.
krazydragonboi
A westbrook and b. davis combination destroyed my team last year. Never again.
Code of Hammurabi
Westbrook is going to be one of those stephen jackson, tmac, baron davis type dudes that ruin the Fg% and To cats until proven otherwise. Westbrook isnt going to make threes either so he'll have a few strikes against him heading into this season. With that being said, I think he has the potential to improve, but I'm just not willing to place my roster in a precarious position trying to account/mitigate his major deficiencies.

QUOTE (krazydragonboi @ Sep 22 2009, 03:37 AM) *
A westbrook and b. davis combination destroyed my team last year. Never again.
Denbo32
I'm heavily invested in Westbrook this year. I'm not sure why tho, I see all the bad parts of his fantasy game, yet I was drawn to draft him in 2 leagues.

I feel really good on Westbrook, but everytime I look at the FG% TO numbers I get sick.....

Ah who cares, I'm jumping on board and riding westbrook!
Rayman
1st game: 14pts/13asts/7reb on 7/12 shooting. Granted, this was against the Kings. But still, great start if you ask me.
xrobx
very satisfied after one game
Denbo32
Nice game!
Denbo32
10/5/10 with 5 TO but 2 Blocks and 1 Steal on 2-11 shooting....
xrobx
he salvaged an okay game with the assists but that poor shooting and turnovers aren't going to cut it. i still like that he's had double digit assists in the first two games though. if he can do that every game i'll be happy no matter what
Denbo32
yesterday was the ugly for WEstbrook. 2 assists and 9 TOs is terrible.
ludawg23
QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Nov 2 2009, 10:10 AM) *
yesterday was the ugly for WEstbrook. 2 assists and 9 TOs is terrible.


he did score 23 points and had a solid FG%

Also chipped in with 2 steals and a 1 block.

My league doesn't count TOs so the low assists was the only thing that hurt...
Denbo32
QUOTE (ludawg23 @ Nov 2 2009, 10:17 AM) *
he did score 23 points and had a solid FG%

Also chipped in with 2 steals and a 1 block.

My league doesn't count TOs so the low assists was the only thing that hurt...


yes no TO league that line is fine. in a TO league 9 TO is a killer and the rest of the line wasn't pretty enough to cover it up.

I still love Westbrook, but games like this hurt bad.
ludawg23
QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Nov 2 2009, 10:19 AM) *
yes no TO league that line is fine. in a TO league 9 TO is a killer and the rest of the line wasn't pretty enough to cover it up.

I still love Westbrook, but games like this hurt bad.


I definitely hear you...the 9 TOs hurt

But the whole team struggled as well, that's the only problem about owning players from bad teams.

Even Durant shot poorly, 3-21 on the night ohmy.gif
Code of Hammurabi
Unfortunately there will be many more nights like this from Westbrook. The Shooting percentages and tos are going to put gms in a major bind. Only the most savy of Gms will be able to make Westbrook work with his major deficiencies and flaws

QUOTE (ludawg23 @ Nov 2 2009, 10:30 AM) *
I definitely hear you...the 9 TOs hurt

But the whole team struggled as well, that's the only problem about owning players from bad teams.

Even Durant shot poorly, 3-21 on the night ohmy.gif
sfdevil
i think out of those 9 TOs, at least 4 were offensive fouls...
not sure if it's a good or bad thing in terms of fantasy though..
Denbo32
QUOTE (sfdevil @ Nov 2 2009, 04:14 PM) *
i think out of those 9 TOs, at least 4 were offensive fouls...
not sure if it's a good or bad thing in terms of fantasy though..


Well I guess that means he attacking the rim.
EsTiLO
QUOTE (sfdevil @ Nov 2 2009, 05:14 PM) *
i think out of those 9 TOs, at least 4 were offensive fouls...
not sure if it's a good or bad thing in terms of fantasy though..


Bad thing because he'll now try to settle for jumpshots. And we all know he doesn't do that well.
markdash
Did you guys hear the news about Westbrook?

He bumped into his nightstand this morning and was whistled for a charge, then when he was making breakfast he dropped his spoon out of bounds. Looks like it's going to be another tough day for Russell.
Denbo32
QUOTE (markdash @ Nov 2 2009, 04:46 PM) *
Did you guys hear the news about Westbrook?

He bumped into his nightstand this morning and was whistled for a charge, then when he was making breakfast he dropped his spoon out of bounds. Looks like it's going to be another tough day for Russell.


Tim Donaghy is that you?
Yell_42
Huge game from Russell today.

He is the most fun player to own in he league I think.

I love him.

The turnovers are annoying, but still.
Longshot
Was anyone else amused by Doc A's blurb on him from last night - "the fact that he committed just four turnovers... was also a bonus"? Made me lol. Either Doc A is a huge homer for his favorite sleeper, or Westbrook has singlehandedly redefined what an acceptable amount of turnovers is.
bloopy
QUOTE (Longshot @ Nov 7 2009, 09:28 AM) *
Was anyone else amused by Doc A's blurb on him from last night - "the fact that he committed just four turnovers... was also a bonus"? Made me lol. Either Doc A is a huge homer for his favorite sleeper, or Westbrook has singlehandedly redefined what an acceptable amount of turnovers is.


hahaha yeah, that was great. clearly westbrook has been deemed as the ultimate turnover machine.
xrobx
if he continues to have monster games like yesterday he can turn it over all he wants
squidthunder
Man, he's killing me tonight. I got both Salmons and Westbrook tonight........not good
Code of Hammurabi
get used to it. Westbrook is a mega chucker. Trade him before its too late...
Poetic
I offered the Westbrook owner Ariza earlier today and canceled it before he saw it...heh
FantasyEmpire
Russell is crashing. Looks for a injury
uri_76
shoulda known this before drafting him
squidthunder
QUOTE (Poetic @ Nov 11 2009, 09:07 PM) *
I offered the Westbrook owner Ariza earlier today and canceled it before he saw it...heh



I like Westbrook. Getting some solid numbers across the board, but I know I got to deal with the FG% and TO
FantasyEmpire
Walking in the locker room on his own power.

Knee or ankle-injury
xrobx
well so far he's got me -5 fantasy points, at this point i'm glad he's injured before he cost my team any more points. 1-11.....
xrobx
well, he has 11 assists and 0 turnovers with 4 minutes left in the game. i'm happy again.
Yell_42
1 minute left and he has zero turnovers. I dont believe it!
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