norcal
Sep 22 2009, 07:24 PM
am i holding on to nothing? he's been out 2 weeks now. Think he'll have the same value as last year? i know he was practicing before week 2, but instead sat out.
so what do you think his value will be? thanks!
DENT'ed
Sep 22 2009, 07:27 PM
I think he is a proven quantity and does not have to fight for the 2nd spot. If healthy I think he would be as good as any of the waiver wire players out there that carry more risk. The issue will be his health.
stevemann
Sep 22 2009, 10:31 PM
I actually just picked Walter up tonight. I think he has great value, and very under rated. He will get plenty of single coverage and is actually a decent red-zone threat.
norcal
Sep 22 2009, 11:25 PM
thanks for the replies. i've heard mixed results, but i think i'm going to keep him. i havn't seen him play yet, but i'm hoping shaub looks his way week 3.
there will be guys popping up all season as 'the new thing', so i'll have plenty of opportunities. hate to pass up on manningham, but dont want to give up on walter & have him end up w/a good season
moomoofarm7
Sep 23 2009, 12:15 AM
I'd like to see more throws towards Jacoby Jones. He made a real tough catch for a TD. I would like to see if he can do more given the opportunities. Jones is another possible waiver wire pickup in deep 12 team leagues.
Go Texans Go
Sep 23 2009, 01:30 PM
QUOTE (moomoofarm7 @ Sep 23 2009, 12:15 AM)

I'd like to see more throws towards Jacoby Jones. He made a real tough catch for a TD. I would like to see if he can do more given the opportunities. Jones is another possible waiver wire pickup in deep 12 team leagues.
NO!!! When Walter and Davis come back then hes the 7th option...AJ, Daniels, Walter, Slaton, Davis, Anderson, and then maybe even the FB Leach, or backup TE's Casey and Dreesen before Jones....NO WAY TO JONES!!!
blacknapalm
Sep 23 2009, 05:05 PM
no way you should drop him. he should get 7-12 fantasy pts a week and he's pretty consistent. solid #3 WR. he returns this week, but I wouldn't start him just yet unless you really have no other options. Going forward though, he should be a good play since he's an excellent route runner with decent hands.
sjuhawks
Sep 23 2009, 05:09 PM
if walter comes back healthy he will be a quality wr. if hes banged up all year it could be a disaster.i would wait at least one more week before dropping him ..
vanderwima10
Sep 24 2009, 04:11 PM
Walter had limited participation in practice today. He also put in limited participation at practice yesterday.
My guess is that he will be back this week.
norcal
Sep 27 2009, 09:22 PM
thanks to everyone who told me to keep him. kept him on the bench (just incase) but he had a good game today. should have started him over housh, but w/e i still won, lol.
thanks again!
Huskies34
Oct 18 2009, 04:06 PM
Just wanted to vent a little bit.....sick of waiting around for this guy to break out....and i had Nicks on the bench, regardless of if it was garbage time or not he still scored 17 points to walters 2...
El Duderino
Oct 18 2009, 04:07 PM
Yeah, I'm going to try and dump Walter as a toss-in in a trade, and if that fails...DROP!
gravtimer
Oct 18 2009, 04:15 PM
i chose walter over j stewert as my flex this week at the ast second, miiiiiiiistake
IslandBoy
Oct 18 2009, 04:19 PM
Walter is like that. He blows up for one game then does nothing for a couple of games and then blows up again. Impossible to judge which games he goes off.
Huskies34
Oct 18 2009, 04:41 PM
Already dropping him....got my waiver claim in on felix jones, someone dropped him so hopefully he is good to go after the bye...have MJD and Rice on a bye next week so im scrambling
Straight Cash Homey
Oct 26 2009, 12:06 PM
waste of a roster spot. I've tried to put up with him but it's impossible, he is a 4th option and I dont think he'll top his week 3 results again.
fantasymad
Oct 26 2009, 04:11 PM
QUOTE (Straight Cash Homey @ Oct 26 2009, 06:06 PM)

waste of a roster spot. I've tried to put up with him but it's impossible, he is a 4th option and I dont think he'll top his week 3 results again.
He could be money this week if AJ is out with his "lung contusion".
DENT'ed
Oct 26 2009, 04:18 PM
I was still holding onto hope before this AJ news. Now this hopefully will mean that he gets more involved. I don't understand why he has disappeared as he has the talent and size to be a factor. I assume Owens emergence has been at Walters expense.
rotoking07
Oct 26 2009, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (fantasymad @ Oct 26 2009, 05:11 PM)

He could be money this week if AJ is out with his "lung contusion".
Davis would probably be the WR to benefit the most from that
DENT'ed
Oct 26 2009, 04:45 PM
why do you say that? If AJ is limited or out means more targets to go around and Walter is next in line for the increased work. He is already higher in the pecking order than Davis. Granted, Davis would see more snaps but Walter would be the primary target (behind Daniels and Slaton).
Panthor
Oct 26 2009, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (DENT'ed @ Oct 26 2009, 05:45 PM)

why do you say that? If AJ is limited or out means more targets to go around and Walter is next in line for the increased work. He is already higher in the pecking order than Davis. Granted, Davis would see more snaps but Walter would be the primary target (behind Daniels and Slaton).
not sure you can call him a primary option, when you list 2 others ahead of him for targets
Mr. Positive
Oct 26 2009, 04:56 PM
This guy is killing me!!! I just can't start him again, until he gets something going.
DENT'ed
Oct 26 2009, 05:22 PM
primary WR target.
NOLA Sox
Oct 30 2009, 12:51 PM
DUMPED for Hakeem Nicks based on possible Mannigham shoulder injury.
Walter looks like an afterthought in the HOU passing attack.
norcal
Nov 1 2009, 08:21 PM
thankfully i'm through my bye weeks on recievers, but he was no help at all. keeping my eye out for better recievers
hunjeebakala
Nov 1 2009, 08:48 PM
QUOTE (norcal @ Nov 1 2009, 09:21 PM)

thankfully i'm through my bye weeks on recievers, but he was no help at all. keeping my eye out for better recievers
me too, this guy has done nothing for me...because of my reluctance to drop him i missed out on a ton of good FA receivers...
yankee_lutz
Nov 1 2009, 09:11 PM
with daniels out i expect walter to receive more targets so there's some upside here
hunjeebakala
Nov 1 2009, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (yankee_lutz @ Nov 1 2009, 10:11 PM)

with daniels out i expect walter to receive more targets so there's some upside here
and if moats replaces slaton, walter should get more looks too as i don't see moats as much of a screen route rusher in contrast to slaton.
walter is a talented guy, frustrating year for him so far. hope he takes advantage of the circumstances around him...
rotoking07
Nov 2 2009, 01:18 AM
QUOTE (yankee_lutz @ Nov 1 2009, 09:11 PM)

with daniels out i expect walter to receive more targets so there's some upside here
He will likely be the main benefactor of Daniels being out.
chouffe
Nov 2 2009, 08:31 AM
QUOTE (rotoking07 @ Nov 2 2009, 07:18 AM)

He will likely be the main benefactor of Daniels being out.
ANY Houston fans that watch all the snaps want to comment on Walter? has he lost a step, I watch some of the action and I just see him being ignored, Schaub doesn't seem to even look his way unless he wants 3 yards on 3rd and 2.
Any thoughts?
ludawg23
Nov 2 2009, 10:01 AM
I'm glad I held on to him.
With OD out and Slaton in the doghouse, his targets should increase
Straight Cash Homey
Nov 2 2009, 10:46 AM
QUOTE (ludawg23 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:01 AM)

I'm glad I held on to him.
With OD out and Slaton in the doghouse, his targets should increase
There always seems to be someone saying "Well, this person is out (or has a minor injury) so his targets will have to increase". I refuse to believe it until I see it. Averaging 4 points a week, this man is not worthy of a roster spot. Last week it was AJ getting hurt, now it's Slaton getting benched and whoever OD is.
I'm sure Slaton's benching was just a message, he won't be out and will not be replaced my Moats. Even if he is, Moats is a great addition to the passing game. If anything, Walter's targets would stay the same or go down.
All us Walter owners need to just realize that he is having and will continue to have an awful season. Let's stop trying to come up with ways to reassure ourselves that we did not waste a draft pick.
ludawg23
Nov 2 2009, 10:59 AM
QUOTE (Straight Cash Homey @ Nov 2 2009, 10:46 AM)

There always seems to be someone saying "Well, this person is out (or has a minor injury) so his targets will have to increase". I refuse to believe it until I see it. Averaging 4 points a week, this man is not worthy of a roster spot. Last week it was AJ getting hurt, now it's Slaton getting benched and whoever OD is.
I'm sure Slaton's benching was just a message, he won't be out and will not be replaced my Moats. Even if he is, Moats is a great addition to the passing game. If anything, Walter's targets would stay the same or go down.
All us Walter owners need to just realize that he is having and will continue to have an awful season. Let's stop trying to come up with ways to reassure ourselves that we did not waste a draft pick.
AJ played so we didn't get a chance to see how Walter would be effected if Aj were out of the line-up.
OD is Owen Daniels...go look him up. He was a huge part of that offense and they need to make up the slack somewhere else.
I didn't draft him, picked him up off the waivers in my 14 teamer. You're not going to find many FAs on your waiver wire with the upside of Walters so he has a spot on my bench...not much risk there.
Timmah!
Nov 2 2009, 11:15 AM
QUOTE (Straight Cash Homey @ Nov 2 2009, 10:46 AM)

There always seems to be someone saying "Well, this person is out (or has a minor injury) so his targets will have to increase". I refuse to believe it until I see it. Averaging 4 points a week, this man is not worthy of a roster spot. Last week it was AJ getting hurt, now it's Slaton getting benched and whoever OD is.
I'm sure Slaton's benching was just a message, he won't be out and will not be replaced my Moats. Even if he is, Moats is a great addition to the passing game. If anything, Walter's targets would stay the same or go down.
All us Walter owners need to just realize that he is having and will continue to have an awful season. Let's stop trying to come up with ways to reassure ourselves that we did not waste a draft pick.
Intriguing statement. I'm interested to hear your basis for making it.
Straight Cash Homey
Nov 2 2009, 11:21 AM
QUOTE (ludawg23 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:59 AM)

AJ played so we didn't get a chance to see how Walter would be effected if Aj were out of the line-up.
OD is Owen Daniels...go look him up. He was a huge part of that offense and they need to make up the slack somewhere else.
I didn't draft him, picked him up off the waivers in my 14 teamer. You're not going to find many FAs on your waiver wire with the upside of Walters so he has a spot on my bench...not much risk there.
Too many players referred to with just initials. Daniels was a huge asset, you're right. But look how Walter's performance did not change, and Daniels left in the 1st quarter. If we were going to see a Walter breakout I'd say it should have happened in the 3 quarters when Daniels was out.
Dont get me wrong, I hope you're right, It definitely won't happen against Indy though so we'll have to wait until the Titans game
Straight Cash Homey
Nov 2 2009, 11:25 AM
QUOTE (Timmah! @ Nov 2 2009, 12:15 PM)

Intriguing statement. I'm interested to hear your basis for making it.
He almost did better than Walter on passing downs, and after the 100+ rushing and 3 TDs I'd expect him to be a lot more involved on rushing and passing downs.
But that's if Slaton is out, which I highly doubt he will be.
Timmah!
Nov 2 2009, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (Straight Cash Homey @ Nov 2 2009, 11:25 AM)

He almost did better than Walter on passing downs, and after the 100+ rushing and 3 TDs I'd expect him to be a lot more involved on rushing and passing downs.
But that's if Slaton is out, which I highly doubt he will be.
Oh, I thought you were going to tell me that he's finally learned how to block, which he could never do when he was here, and that his hands have improved to the point where you don't have to hit him between the numbers in order for him to hang onto the ball.
Sorry, but I'm going to be skeptical of him being a "great addition to the passing game" until I've seen that he's made those improvements.
DENT'ed
Nov 2 2009, 01:23 PM
Not only is Walter going to stay on my team, I am going to play him this week and expect good production. He is talented, capable of break-out games, and still has a huge upside. He has been on my team in the past and definately goes thru painful droughts but unless he is playing injured or has lost a step from his early season injury he will break out of this slump too.
Again, any Houston fans out there who have some insight into Walters drop-off? When watching games is he dropping balls, feuding with Schaub, running poorly, etc,
Patrick Bateman
Nov 2 2009, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (DENT'ed @ Nov 2 2009, 12:23 PM)

Not only is Walter going to stay on my team, I am going to play him this week and expect good production. He is talented, capable of break-out games, and still has a huge upside. He has been on my team in the past and definately goes thru painful droughts but unless he is playing injured or has lost a step from his early season injury he will break out of this slump too.
Again, any Houston fans out there who have some insight into Walters drop-off? When watching games is he dropping balls, feuding with Schaub, running poorly, etc,
I'm not a Texans fan, but I've seen all of their games and he's just not targeted very often. Before the Daniels injury he was maybe a 4th option behind AJ, OD, and Slaton. Now he was banged up to start the season, but David Anderson has gotten more burn then Walter this year. I've always thought it was hard for the 2nd WR to be a productive fantasy play with a dominant TE on the roster. Nothing this year has swayed my thinking. I would give it another week now that OD is out. Walter does stand to possibly be targeted more because of his size and hands now. I own him on one team and I'm holding for one more week....
DENT'ed
Nov 2 2009, 01:49 PM
I am holding on for one more week too but am going to play him this week as my flex. I would hate to miss the 1 game that he explodes and feel the stars are alligned.
2pac
Nov 2 2009, 01:54 PM
Son of a. I had DAniels and Walter on my Roster. Dropped Walter before the game for Maclin and I lost Daniels. Now If I want Walter back he's got to clear waivers which likely won't happen. Talk about a double whammy.
Mr. Positive
Nov 2 2009, 06:33 PM
Walter almost has to go up in production. Schaub just likes to throw and with no Owen Daniels and probably a committee at running back, Walters will suddenly not be the 4 option now. No matter what, he's a better roll of the dice at 3rd receiver than before this week.
Patrick Bateman
Nov 2 2009, 06:57 PM
Apparently McClain agrees with us as well....
Texans beat writer John McClain expects Kevin Walter to "benefit most" statistically from Owen Daniels' season-ending injury.
Walter has been mostly blocking outside while taking a backseat to Daniels to this point, but offers similar possession-type, over-the-middle skills, runs well after the catch, and can be effective in the red zone. We agree with McClain and recommend grabbing Walter if he's been dropped in shallow leagues.
Source: Houston Chronicle
dark_knite03
Nov 2 2009, 09:13 PM
I just traded this fool yesterday.....seems like everything i do this year bites me in the ass.
El Duderino
Nov 3 2009, 02:44 AM
It's not a lock that Walter will be picked up. As long as he doesn't have some ridiculous projection, he could pass through waivers. After all, he HAS been abysmal to this point. It isn't as if he had a 2 TD game last week or something.
Straight Cash Homey
Nov 3 2009, 09:19 AM
QUOTE (El Duderino @ Nov 3 2009, 02:44 AM)

It's not a lock that Walter will be picked up. As long as he doesn't have some ridiculous projection, he could pass through waivers. After all, he HAS been abysmal to this point. It isn't as if he had a 2 TD game last week or something.
EXACTLY.
Walter has been awful and I doubt anyone is in a rush to pick him up. He is projected 7 points in my Yahoo league
ludawg23
Nov 9 2009, 02:43 PM
Encouraging game for Walter vs a pretty solid pass defense.
Caught 5 balls for 67 yards, most production since week 3. Almost got into the EZ too but was tackled at the 2 yard line...thought for sure he was going to fall into the EZ after going high to make a catch
aab980
Nov 9 2009, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (ludawg23 @ Nov 9 2009, 03:43 PM)

Encouraging game for Walter vs a pretty solid pass defense.
Caught 5 balls for 67 yards, most production since week 3. Almost got into the EZ too but was tackled at the 2 yard line...thought for sure he was going to fall into the EZ after going high to make a catch
And now he's on a bye, he's been a major disappointment so far, but having said that I am contemplating trading for him. Perhaps it's only b/c I'm trigger happy and want to make a move before the deadline.
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