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MrQuestions
Rotoworld news picked up a little blurb from a Giants beat writer saying it's clear that the Giants intend to get Nicks more involved in the offense.

He's obviously 3rd in line in NYG's very potent (to this point) passing attack, with the potential to pass Manningham and be the #2 option on that team.

I'm not a Giants fan and I haven't watched any Giants games so I don't know a lot about the situation. Where does he line up when he enters the game? He's listed as the WR3 on the depth chart, but he must line up wide with Smith in the slot?
Panthor
he should be a solid contributor in a few weeks
dsquared05
I grabbed him this week hoping he becomes a viable option.
bdams19
I think Manningham is the biggest factor in determining if he becomes a star this year or next year
gordo4s
Sshhhhhhhhh!

I expect him to quickly become the #2 with Smith #1. Manningham will play in three WR sets and Smith will move to the slot. (JMO)
fatboyj711
QUOTE (gordo4s @ Oct 8 2009, 01:16 PM) *
Sshhhhhhhhh!

I expect him to quickly become the #2 with Smith #1. Manningham will play in three WR sets and Smith will move to the slot. (JMO)


i doubt he completely overtakes manningham in the foreseeable future, but i do exect some kind of rotation between manningham, nicks, and hixon going forward...
gordo4s
QUOTE (fatboyj711 @ Oct 8 2009, 01:24 PM) *
i doubt he completely overtakes manningham in the foreseeable future, but i do exect some kind of rotation between manningham, nicks, and hixon going forward...


Agreed. I don't think anyone will play exclusively "bench" unless they have steady problems with drops and inconsistency.
Enoch
QUOTE (fatboyj711 @ Oct 8 2009, 01:24 PM) *
i doubt he completely overtakes manningham in the foreseeable future, but i do exect some kind of rotation between manningham, nicks, and hixon going forward...

Agreed. I think most people are forgetting Hixon too quickly. He earned the starting spot at split-end ahead of Nicks and Manningham in camp, and Manningham's break-out came only after he hurt himself early in the Dallas game. I'm not saying that they'll put him right back into starting job, but I think he'll be a bigger factor than people are expecting right now.

Unless there are more injuries or undeniable break-out performances, starting any one of the three is a pretty big risk. I'd only be rostering them in a redraft league if the rosters are particularly deep.
gordo4s
I think Hixon may have been in the starting role due to Manningham and Nicks lacking experience, which at least Manningham now has. He is very unspectacular. I don't think if he will get his job back.

Not that there is a "job" since its a rotation.
fantasymad
QUOTE (Enoch @ Oct 8 2009, 06:39 PM) *
He earned the starting spot at split-end ahead of Nicks and Manningham in camp,


Do you think he earned it or was it more of Nicks being a rookie and Coughlin wanting to keep the depth chart the way is was at the end of 2008?

I am leaning towards the latter.
fatboyj711
QUOTE (gordo4s @ Oct 8 2009, 02:49 PM) *
I think Hixon may have been in the starting role due to Manningham and Nicks lacking experience, which at least Manningham now has. He is very unspectacular. I don't think if he will get his job back.

Not that there is a "job" since its a rotation.


hixon had a great camp so he didn't win starting job completely by default...
fantasymad
QUOTE (fatboyj711 @ Oct 8 2009, 06:50 PM) *
hixon had a great camp so he didn't win starting job completely by default...


Then the wheels starting falling off at the end of the preseason. Especially his performance vs the Jets.

Hixon to me is 4th on the WR depth chart.
gordo4s
QUOTE (fatboyj711 @ Oct 8 2009, 02:50 PM) *
hixon had a great camp so he didn't win starting job completely by default...


I admit, I was in the totally discounting Hixon group mentioned earlier...

I was basing my "Nicks for #2" opinion on: Nicks seeming like the biggest talent during preseason, watching both Manningham and Nicks in the Chiefs game, forgetting about Hixon.

But, I still think Hixon is an unspectacular talent compared to Manningham and Nicks. I think he earned the starter's job through Manningham and/or Nicks not being "ready" enough to be the starting professional, while Hixon had experience from the year before.
whips02
Nicks ownable now?

EnderWiggins
QUOTE (whips02 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:50 PM) *
Nicks ownable now?


Depends on ur league size and how serious Manningham's injury was. It did not sound too serious, so I think he remains the starter. Nicks will get his snaps, but will still be limited to a part time rotation unless an injury occurs or a few bad games from Super Mario...
cross1420
i think nicks is ownable i won't cuz i have smith and mario.
but when it comes to is nicks hixxon mario situation if you watch the way they play they all have there own special abilities mario runs great routes and is fast nicks has sick foot work and can dance his way to a TD and hixxon has great hops and hands and i see Coughlin using each WR for there qualities.

IMO smith will be WR#1 and smith/mario/hixxon will be swapped out for each other which isn't great news as of fantasy points cuz you'll never truly know who will have the best game. But great news for the Giants and all there fans.
dimeskis
QUOTE (cross1420 @ Oct 12 2009, 10:54 PM) *
i think nicks is ownable i won't cuz i have smith and mario.
but when it comes to is nicks hixxon mario situation if you watch the way they play they all have there own special abilities mario runs great routes and is fast nicks has sick foot work and can dance his way to a TD and hixxon has great hops and hands and i see Coughlin using each WR for there qualities.

IMO smith will be WR#1 and smith/mario/hixxon will be swapped out for each other which isn't great news as of fantasy points cuz you'll never truly know who will have the best game. But great news for the Giants and all there fans.


I picked up Nicks as a spec add last week and I'm thinking of dropping him for Maclin if Maclin clears waivers. I wouldn't mind holding onto him but it seems like the battle between Hixon, Nicks, and Mario could be a mess going forward. Also, historically Eli's production falls off as it gets colder and the conditions worsen in the Meadowlands. I just think that by the team this picture clears up it could be late November and the Giants will be back to a running team...
ciderjack6
Don't know if he is ownable 100% but he should at least be worth a spot start this weekend. Eli plays very well indoors and will most likely have to throw it a ton (they won't have 3 score leads against the Saints).
fatboyj711
nicks is a must buy in keeper and dynasty leagues (and he's likely not available anyways)... expectations should be tempered in redrafts...

he's clearly more skilled than manningham and hixon...
ragujar
Matt Mosely is the ESPN NFC East insider, and he thinks Hakeem Nicks will be the starter in NY this year. (See his chat transcripts) He seems to think he's already pretty involved and will continue to get more and more involved.

He's obviously got some talent, but I wonder what others think of this guy and how many snaps is he getting already. Could he be a sneaky starter this week vs the Saints? Does anyone know how many snaps he's getting currently?
MrQuestions
QUOTE (ragujar @ Oct 15 2009, 10:06 AM) *
Matt Mosely is the ESPN NFC East insider, and he thinks Hakeem Nicks will be the starter in NY this year. (See his chat transcripts) He seems to think he's already pretty involved and will continue to get more and more involved.

He's obviously got some talent, but I wonder what others think of this guy and how many snaps is he getting already. Could he be a sneaky starter this week vs the Saints? Does anyone know how many snaps he's getting currently?


I'm wondering this too...

As well as the details of how he's being used. Where does he line up when he comes into the game?
fredth3cat
Manningham seems to drop a lot of easy catches; I wouldn't be surprised to see Nicks overtake him soon enough.
Panthor
the schedule is getting harder and the Giants will start to use the running game more to control the clock and the game. this team will take what the defense gives them, it isn't a one dimensional team. i would say going forward that there will be more running going on, as teams now realize they need to respect the WR on this team
tdroesch
Maybe i am blind but i cannot seem to find Hakeem Nicks on the top 200 players list or on the top 83 WR's list. either he has been overlooked by roto or he is simply not in the top 200, which would be odd because he managed to catch a TD in each of his last 2 games, lead all Giants WR's in week 5, and is healthy. just wondering.....
fatboyj711
you might want to update the thread title since it's a bit misleading...
gordo4s
Here we go Nicks.

One big game performance coming right up.
cpowell54
only thing ive heard from nicks all day is crickets..... hopefully Eli can hook up with him a few times in the second half
gordo4s
QUOTE (cpowell54 @ Oct 18 2009, 03:01 PM) *
only thing ive heard from nicks all day is crickets..... hopefully Eli can hook up with him a few times in the second half


Seriously! Hixon has done more, and I don't even know how much Nicks has been on the field.
WeezerNY
he has had 2 long balls thrown his way, both badly underthrown
WeezerNY
theres the big play! now get in the endzone.
William Ayers
just saved my a$$
MrQuestions
There he goes. Garbage time, but he put up numbers again this week.

If you own him and have solid WRs ahead of him is now the time to try to sell him after 3 straight TD weeks and seemingly becoming more involved in the offense to the owner who only looks at fantasy points?
dimeskis
QUOTE (MrQuestions @ Oct 18 2009, 04:21 PM) *
There he goes. Garbage time, but he put up numbers again this week.

If you own him and have solid WRs ahead of him is now the time to try to sell him after 3 straight TD weeks and seemingly becoming more involved in the offense to the owner who only looks at fantasy points?


I couldn't catch the game but I had the feeling this was the case.

My only issue is - This is still 3 straight good games from a player a lot of people were expecting a good rookie year from...Do any Giants homers feel he'll get more involved in the offense? Or is this just a factor of him getting a lot of love from Carr or when the game is in hand?

ArbeeEye
QUOTE (dimeskis @ Oct 18 2009, 06:37 PM) *
I couldn't catch the game but I had the feeling this was the case.

My only issue is - This is still 3 straight good games from a player a lot of people were expecting a good rookie year from...Do any Giants homers feel he'll get more involved in the offense? Or is this just a factor of him getting a lot of love from Carr or when the game is in hand?



Giants fan.

It's probably a little of that (carr), but the Giants are clearly trying to get him the ball more either way, and he's had three straight good games. Hixon's return could eat into some of his time, but it's clear that Nicks is the future at WR. I'd still rank him below Smith and Manningham and I'd probably trade him if I could get pretty good value, but he's an ok 3rd or 4th WR.
WeezerNY
Not sure what to do with this guy. Sell High? Legit? I already sold high on Manningham...
WeezerNY
"Mario Manningham revealed Monday that he injured his back in the Giants' Week 6 loss to New Orleans.

Manningham says he'll be fine, but the injury resulted in increased playing time for Hakeem Nicks. The two will continue to rotate going forward."
gordo4s
QUOTE (WeezerNY @ Oct 19 2009, 10:11 AM) *
Not sure what to do with this guy. Sell High? Legit? I already sold high on Manningham...


I'm holding the upside and waiting to sell higher. If it doesn't happen, oh well. Not able to get much goodness for him at this point.
dimeskis
QUOTE (gordo4s @ Oct 19 2009, 03:36 PM) *
I'm holding the upside and waiting to sell higher. If it doesn't happen, oh well. Not able to get much goodness for him at this point.


I agree and if Manningham is limited this week I might even end up starting him.
gordo4s
QUOTE (dimeskis @ Oct 19 2009, 08:04 PM) *
I agree and if Manningham is limited this week I might even end up starting him.


I started him yesterday in one league with some bye week issues and J. cotchery out. Got a bit lucky with that one, but he does keep doing things with his limited looks.
UcanTry
i need a starter for this week with my whole team on a bye and thinking of going with this guy, i mean the cardinals are the 2nd worst against the pass.
realhawker
Eli doesn't have any favorites really yet on this team - even Steve Smith has been ignored a bit. Nicks will get you 3 pts next week.
TBarber21
Nicks is going to be something special but right now he doesn't get enough snaps to be useful. I know he has scored TDs in 3 straight, but they were essentially garbage time TDs. If you start him, be prepared for some bad weeks. As he gets more involved in the offense, then watch out.
Vriez
QUOTE (TBarber21 @ Oct 20 2009, 09:38 AM) *
Nicks is going to be something special but right now he doesn't get enough snaps to be useful. I know he has scored TDs in 3 straight, but they were essentially garbage time TDs. If you start him, be prepared for some bad weeks. As he gets more involved in the offense, then watch out.


I completely agree. He'll still prove to be quite inconsistent this year, but he really does have the talent to be one of the league's best wide receivers. He just oozes talent. The dude is a beast. You could tell just by watching him in college that he was going to be something special.

I do think that he'll have more useful games than duds, though...and for those some reasons that I mentioned above. He's got the ability to break one on every catch. He'll throw up the occasional "2 catch, 35 yard" game that will keep him from being a 'must-start' WR...but I think he's turning into one of the better match-up plays in FF. I'd also put big money on him having more value than Manningham from here on out.
moomoofarm7
QUOTE (Vriez @ Oct 20 2009, 11:25 AM) *
I completely agree. He'll still prove to be quite inconsistent this year, but he really does have the talent to be one of the league's best wide receivers. He just oozes talent. The dude is a beast. You could tell just by watching him in college that he was going to be something special.

I do think that he'll have more useful games than duds, though...and for those some reasons that I mentioned above. He's got the ability to break one on every catch. He'll throw up the occasional "2 catch, 35 yard" game that will keep him from being a 'must-start' WR...but I think he's turning into one of the better match-up plays in FF. I'd also put big money on him having more value than Manningham from here on out.


Exactly. I got into huge arguments on this board about Nicks. I drafted him relatively early in all my leagues to lock him up-and most people on here called me ridiculous for doing so (some agreed with me). I absolutely believed that he would become a top WR in the NFL, anyone that followed him in College knows what I'm talking about (Vriez). The fact that he was drafted 31st is insane, as he was the CLEAR best WR in this draft class, bar none-I've been saying so since Draft Day. I really think it's a joke that Crabtree, H-B, Britt, all went before him. He will be the best WR on the Giants without a doubt. Put him on Texas Tech and Crabtree would be the No. 2 WR and Nicks would have gotten the 'top WR prospect hype'
Panthor
i don't think the NYG will be passing as much as the season goes forward, that is not their game, they are built around defense, running, and controlling the clock. they have been passing because that is what the defense is giving them, but the bread and butter is still running. Nicks is good and has a lot of potential but lets not get carried away
bravesfan4life
Steve Smith leads the league in targets if i remember correctly for the guy that says he is even inconsistant, but yea unless some injuries happen he's gonna be hard to start in fantasy
UcanTry
i dont know what to think, the Giants WR rotation reminds me of the New England backfeild
Blair777
QUOTE (moomoofarm7 @ Oct 20 2009, 11:02 AM) *
Exactly. I got into huge arguments on this board about Nicks. I drafted him relatively early in all my leagues to lock him up-and most people on here called me ridiculous for doing so (some agreed with me). I absolutely believed that he would become a top WR in the NFL, anyone that followed him in College knows what I'm talking about (Vriez). The fact that he was drafted 31st is insane, as he was the CLEAR best WR in this draft class, bar none-I've been saying so since Draft Day. I really think it's a joke that Crabtree, H-B, Britt, all went before him. He will be the best WR on the Giants without a doubt. Put him on Texas Tech and Crabtree would be the No. 2 WR and Nicks would have gotten the 'top WR prospect hype'


Britt went the pick after him. Nicks went 29, not 31.
BETTAFISH
I'm starting him this week with some confidence ...I'm starting him over Steve Smith (car), Roy Williams and Percy Harvin. Who else is running him out there??
MrQuestions
QUOTE (BETTAFISH @ Oct 21 2009, 08:42 PM) *
I'm starting him this week with some confidence ...I'm starting him over Steve Smith (car), Roy Williams and Percy Harvin. Who else is running him out there??


I'm rolling with him too as my WR3 filling in for Brandon Marshall's bye week. I'm not starting him over any studs, just have E. Bennett and Massaquoi for other options.

ARI supposedly has a bad passing D so Eli should be able to put up numbers... Probably just a game of roulette to decide which NYG receivers will be the big winners this weekend.
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