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Code of Hammurabi
Balling out of control. Looks like he may seize the SG position in NJ and provide value out the wazoooooooooo
Warno
Yeah I was hoping one of CDR, C-Lee or T-Will would be a sleeper this year. Instead I see them all sharing minutes and cancelling each other out.
Code of Hammurabi
2 positions for them to play beween the 2 and 3. CDR is solidfying himself for one of those slots


QUOTE (Warno @ Oct 9 2009, 09:38 PM) *
Yeah I was hoping one of CDR, C-Lee or T-Will would be a sleeper this year. Instead I see them all sharing minutes and cancelling each other out.
Warno
QUOTE (Code of Hammurabi @ Oct 9 2009, 09:44 PM) *
2 positions for them to play beween the 2 and 3. CDR is solidfying himself for one of those slots


Good point!

I hope it is CDR and Clee, but who knows. I also hope they don't play Hayes at all... he doesn't really fit in with the youth movement.
Thats Ridiculous
well, we'll keep an eye on him.
negrotiator
Terrence Williams would have A LOT more value than CDR as a starter. CDR doesnt have the potential to offer much value in anything besides points. Williams could contribute across the board. I also think CDR has a low ceiling, but williams could someday be a star.
El_Chingon
Will be interesting to see follow how the regular season minutes shake themselves out once Lee gets back and healthy.
bdams19
Who expects him to break out this year? He didn't see many minutes and he's got a great game. Thoughts?
kimoti
I expect him to average 11pts 4 rbs and 3 assts a game.
EsTiLO
QUOTE (negrotiator @ Oct 10 2009, 12:06 AM) *
Terrence Williams would have A LOT more value than CDR as a starter. CDR doesnt have the potential to offer much value in anything besides points. Williams could contribute across the board. I also think CDR has a low ceiling, but williams could someday be a star.


This is very true. TWill is missing a jumper right now but when he finds it watch out ! The guy can ditch, play defense and drive.
Denbo32
I rather own yi
kimoti
yi can't play basketball. inconsistent like a fat lady's diet. lol.
EsTiLO
QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Oct 17 2009, 03:14 PM) *
I rather own yi


He stinks.
Code of Hammurabi
T will cant shoot. Did you see his college fg%. Downright putrid.....

QUOTE (EsTiLO @ Oct 17 2009, 01:36 PM) *
This is very true. TWill is missing a jumper right now but when he finds it watch out ! The guy can ditch, play defense and drive.
Denbo32
QUOTE (EsTiLO @ Oct 17 2009, 03:30 PM) *
<br />He stinks.<br />
<br /><br /><br />

I never said yi was good. he just has a better chance to be fantasy worthy then cdr
superjew
Can this guy start all the time? Wow. 22 points, 10/10 FTs, 4 steals, 2 blocks, 4 assists on 31 minutes of playing. wow. It is against the knicks, but still...any hope that this guy will pan out?
bdams19
already a few cdr threads... nets have a bunch of skilled young guys its a matter of who gets the minutes
MNDOGG
All i know is that this guy puts up numbers consistently when given minutes, going back to last year..i don't see how he doesnt get 30 mins a night..who else is there? Harris, Lee,CDR,Yi,Lopez..there is the starting 5 with Williams, Rafer,Boone and Simmons as the top reserves? Im not a Nets fan but i think its going to be something like this..There are not enough shots for all the starters to go off every night obviously, but i think it can average out to where they will all have value throughout the season..especially since they will be running all year..these teams that run have multiple fantasy contribitors like Dallas, Pheonix the Knicks ect..or of course it could also be the case where its Harris and Lopez every night, and one of the other 3 giving you value sporadicallly..who knows but its an intriguing situation for fantasy purposes..CDR and Lee should both be getting 30 mins a night i think and both have value..
MNDOGG
What was the knock on him during his draft? Why did he slip to the second round?

hornrimmed_rambis
I just picked him up, dropped Julian Wright (whom i picked up last night for Gooden).

I think he clearly can start over Jarvis Hayes. Nice guy, Hayes, but not a great player. Hayes has had an injury, but it's pretty clear that CDR starts at the 3 even when Hayes is back, which is apparently in a week. They need CDR, frankly. Someone has to put the ball through the bucket on that team, seriously.
tazdingo
I'm more confident that Courtney Lee will start at the SG while the SF will be a battle of sorts between CDR, Williams and Hayes... But today's game was an encouraging game for CDR...
MNDOGG
QUOTE (tazdingo @ Oct 21 2009, 09:15 PM) *
I'm more confident that Courtney Lee will start at the SG while the SF will be a battle of sorts between CDR, Williams and Hayes... But today's game was an encouraging game for CDR...



oh yeah..i don't think there is any doubt about that..Lee was the center piece in the VC trade, he will get plenty of run..
hornrimmed_rambis
QUOTE (MNDOGG @ Oct 21 2009, 09:35 PM) *
oh yeah..i don't think there is any doubt about that..Lee was the center piece in the VC trade, he will get plenty of run..


CDR is 6'7", 200 lbs. He can start at SF easily, and has done just that in the preseason. Jarvis Hayes, even fully healthy, is not going to be stopping the CDR train at SF. Hayes has never had any offensive game, and the Nets need scoring badly.

CDR has started at SF 4 games in a row, and has basically played 34 minutes there, except for one game when he strained his neck. The challenge to his minutes might come from rookie Terrence Williams, but for now, Williams is pretty inconsistent. CDR has outplayed him in the preseason. It seems pretty apparent that he will start at SF when the season opens, and will play 34 minutes a game.

Lee can have the SG slot. So what's the problem? I think the doubts about whether CDR will be a starter on opening night are pretty much imaginary.
Mexi1024
So would you rather have CDR? or Grant Hill?
MNDOGG
QUOTE (hornrimmed_rambis @ Oct 21 2009, 10:17 PM) *
CDR is 6'7", 200 lbs. He can start at SF easily, and has done just that in the preseason. Jarvis Hayes, even fully healthy, is not going to be stopping the CDR train at SF. Hayes has never had any offensive game, and the Nets need scoring badly.

CDR has started at SF 4 games in a row, and has basically played 34 minutes there, except for one game when he strained his neck. The challenge to his minutes might come from rookie Terrence Williams, but for now, Williams is pretty inconsistent. CDR has outplayed him in the preseason. It seems pretty apparent that he will start at SF when the season opens, and will play 34 minutes a game.

Lee can have the SG slot. So what's the problem? I think the doubts about whether CDR will be a starter on opening night are pretty much imaginary.


oh im not saying CDR won't get his..i just said that Lee is definitely getting his run..he has no one to compete with at SG..hey i drafted both Lee and CDR! wink.gif and right now im looking like a genius! LOL..
hornrimmed_rambis
QUOTE (Mexi1024 @ Oct 21 2009, 10:19 PM) *
So would you rather have CDR? or Grant Hill?


That's a tough one. I have both. I really like Hill this year. Unless or unless he gets injured, I think he's more proven, and contributes across a bunch of categories. Despite all my talking up of CDR, there are no guarantees with him. Hill is guaranteed to start at SF.

So keep Hill.
Mexi1024
QUOTE (hornrimmed_rambis @ Oct 21 2009, 10:26 PM) *
That's a tough one. I have both. I really like Hill this year. Unless or unless he gets injured, I think he's more proven, and contributes across a bunch of categories. Despite all my talking up of CDR, there are no guarantees with him. Hill is guaranteed to start at SF.

So keep Hill.


Yea I dropped Battier for Hill yesterday....and I'm just so bad at going after these "sleepers" instead of keeping the safe options...

I'll stay with Hill but keep a close eye on CDR...thanks
hornrimmed_rambis
QUOTE (Mexi1024 @ Oct 21 2009, 10:29 PM) *
Yea I dropped Battier for Hill yesterday....and I'm just so bad at going after these "sleepers" instead of keeping the safe options...

I'll stay with Hill but keep a close eye on CDR...thanks


Dropped Battier? Ouch. He's really the worst man on your roster? Actually, now that I look at your sig, he might be. Good team. But I wouldn't be surprised if Battier's worth a lot more than your AI in 2 weeks.
The Czar
QUOTE (MNDOGG @ Oct 21 2009, 10:04 PM) *
What was the knock on him during his draft? Why did he slip to the second round?


He was given bad advice before the draft. He thought he was going to go higher in the draft than he did and he refused to work out with several of the teams at the back end of the first round, thinking he would go higher than that. When he slipped, none of the teams at the back were willing to invest in a guy that they didn't work out, so he fell to the second round. Detroit was very interested in him at 29, but would not pick him without having him work out, so they passed.

Like many players that play with stars, he was overlooked by scouts because it was thought that he was being heavily helped out by Derrick Rose being on his team. That happens a lot with players. The scouts were all there to see Rose and when CDR was tearing it up and avg'ing 18 a game, they likely said it had more to do with the D focusing on Rose.

I like CDR. It sounds like he is ready to take the next step up.

Sidenote: Monta Ellis also went 40th overall. Just sayin'.

The Nets are going to need a lot of offense with no VC this year and SF has been wide open since RJ left. Giving Harris athletic slashers like Lee and CDR to run with him and a solid young center in Lopez makes a lot of sense.

Douglas Roberts is going to be in the rotation for sure and should start at SF. Him and Lee are going to get a ton of points on transition. I like both of them this season.
paloalto
Can one expect CDR to average 1+ three's over the season given he starts?
MNDOGG
QUOTE (paloalto @ Oct 21 2009, 10:52 PM) *
Can one expect CDR to average 1+ three's over the season given he starts?



nope..he hasn't hit one all preseson and rarely took them last year... thats not his game yet.
negrotiator
QUOTE (MNDOGG @ Oct 22 2009, 01:58 AM) *
nope..he hasn't hit one all preseson and rarely took them last year... thats not his game yet.


Don't understand this guy's hype. What does he do besides scoring? He looks like a one trick pony to me.
tazdingo
Just put him in my watch list in my league but he's listed as a PG/SG... What gives???
The Czar
QUOTE (negrotiator @ Oct 22 2009, 02:04 AM) *
Don't understand this guy's hype. What does he do besides scoring? He looks like a one trick pony to me.


Tonight's line: 26 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals, 2 blocks

Available on every one of my waiver wires except one (six leagues).

Averaging 18 points a game in the preseason.

Yeah, he may not keep this up, but he also won't last on my waiver wire putting up lines like that. I'm in some deeper leagues, so catching a potential starter that is going to put up points is very valuable.

We don't really know what he is capable of because he hasn't been given that chance yet. This preseason is his first taste of minutes and he is producing. Call me intrigued.

I was able to grab him as a flyer pick in the 18th round in a draft a few nights ago. I wouldn't say he is being overhyped at all. Getting a guy like this in the 18th round is a steal if he starts, even if he has a Marquis Daniels like skill set.
Code of Hammurabi
This kid is going to be a very solid number 3 scorer for many many years. I still cannot ascertain why he slipped so far in the draft a few seasons ago..
Yell_42
I took him off the Free agent list in my 20 team league.
EsTiLO
QUOTE (Yell_42 @ Oct 22 2009, 10:33 AM) *
I took him off the Free agent list in my 20 team league.


Which flavor cookie do you want? chocolate or macadamia nut?
bdams19
I wanna pick him up but I don't see anyone to drop... That move he had on the top 10 against the knicks was dirtyyy tho
Code of Hammurabi
why the animosity? The guy made a solid WW pickup

QUOTE (EsTiLO @ Oct 22 2009, 10:36 AM) *
Which flavor cookie do you want? chocolate or macadamia nut?
EsTiLO
QUOTE (Code of Hammurabi @ Oct 22 2009, 10:45 AM) *
why the animosity? The guy made a solid WW pickup


Animosity?
He made a solid pick up , good for him , no need to announce it
negrotiator
He hasnt shown the ability to do only thing else consistently besides score. Last game was probably a fluke. his contribution in threes, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks is probably going to be pathetic this yr, regardless of if he starts or not. Remember, there are 9 cats folks.
rotojoe
QUOTE (negrotiator @ Oct 22 2009, 11:20 AM) *
He hasnt shown the ability to do only thing else consistently besides score. Last game was probably a fluke. his contribution in threes, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks is probably going to be pathetic this yr, regardless of if he starts or not. Remember, there are 9 cats folks.



Everyone's career night always comes against the Knicks- this goes back to the Ewing era. I am not impressed.
YaO
QUOTE (rotojoe @ Oct 22 2009, 11:24 AM) *
Everyone's career night always comes against the Knicks- this goes back to the Ewing era. I am not impressed.


Anyone know CDR's preseason avgs?
Warno
QUOTE (YaO @ Oct 22 2009, 11:26 AM) *
Anyone know CDR's preseason avgs?


HERE!!

Go to the NBA site.
MNDOGG
QUOTE (YaO @ Oct 22 2009, 08:26 AM) *
Anyone know CDR's preseason avgs?


18,3.7,2 with 1.3 stls 0.3 blks 1.9 TOs on 51% 75%.. absolutely solid for a late round flyer.. if he gets minutes and comes anything near this he will be a late round steal..and like someone else pointed out, this is the first time in his short ( like played serious minutes in only 10 -15 games in his career short) ,short career..so who really knows what he is capable of..sign me up!
YaO
QUOTE (MNDOGG @ Oct 22 2009, 11:44 AM) *
18,3.7,2 with 1.3 stls 0.3 blks 1.9 TOs on 51% 75%.. absolutely solid for a late round flyer.. if he gets minutes and comes anything near this he will be a late round steal..and like someone else pointed out, this is the first time in his short ( like played serious minutes in only 10 -15 games in his career short) ,short career..so who really knows what he is capable of..sign me up!


I think I would still have to take Morrow over CDR...anyone agree?
EsTiLO
CDR is a baller but Harris has yet to play much this pre-season.
hornrimmed_rambis
QUOTE (Warno @ Oct 22 2009, 08:38 AM) *
HERE!!

Go to the NBA site.


Hilarious.
Skoodog
I loved watching CDR play for Memphis but those pre-season numbers, on a high minute count (33 average), w/o Harris vs. limited NBA teams are still not blowing me away. The peripherals other than the steals are below average...especially 3s. I don't like picking up a SG that doesn't contribute to my 3s, boards, or assists.
negrotiator
QUOTE (EsTiLO @ Oct 22 2009, 11:57 AM) *
CDR is a baller but Harris has yet to play much this pre-season.


yeah. i think people are conveniently forgetting that there has been a 23 ppg hole in the roster that will soon be filled lol. devin will take a bunch of shots, canceling out the only thing cdr is rly good at (scoring). every cdr owner is gonna drop him before the end of november. guaransheed.
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