Frye looks good early. 19 points 8 rebounds 2 3s and 1 block. Anyone here drafted this dude?

i have picked him up in my last rounds of my drafts

I got him with my last pick in 12 round. I'm excited seeing him in Phoenix system. The line he posted against GSW reminds me of LMA a bit..

LOL It was against the Warriors - a team consisting of about 20 guards and 3 big men. Every time any team plays GSW, they score about 120pts and get about 40 team rebounds

It was also just a preseason game. I'd like to see what he'll do in the regular season against teams who actually consider "defense" as part of their game.

Going off again tonight ..27,3,2 with 4 treys and counting.. is he locked and loaded to be a starter all year? was this the plan when they signed him? or will lopez or someone else take some minutes from him at some point? Man if he gets 30+ mins a night he will have some nice value this year it looks like..

I don't think he'll score anywhere near this much in the games that count. That along with the fact that he will definitely not block shots or get rebounds makes him pretty average imo.

oh im not saying he will score 30 pts a night..but if he is going to get 30 minsa night..15,5 with 1.5 treys and near a blk looks reasonable...

I'm in love. Gotta love 3s from Cs.

I'm still dropping him for Love.

All Frye does is shoot (no rebounds) so when he has a bad night shooting you will get nothing

Most I can hope for are lines which would be similar to Okur... Today's game was encouraging but you still gotta take into consideration that it was a preseason game and it was against GSW so almost anybody can look like a star against that team...

I think he's going to be up and down all season. He's not a great defender so I can see him getting yanked in some games for Robin Lopez when the opposing big men are too much for them (i.e. 76ers, Spurs, Cavs, Lakers, Celtics etc). One thing I like about him is he is able to draw big men outside of the paint with his shooting, which is what I think the Suns intend to do with him. That skill will guarantee him 25+ mins a game at least. Then you just hope he's on a good shooting night.

I do think he is capable of rebounding (though not consistently. kind of like Warrick). Just depends on who they're playing. He's shown it in with the Blazers and Knicks on occasion. He'll be one of the better FA pick ups this year in my opinion.

They played Sacramento which have two very capable bigs in Hawes and Thompson. But you can tell from the box score that it was a shootout, which is what PHX fans are going to see throughout this season now that they're back in run and gun mode.

When the Suns DID play the Warriors a couple of weeks ago, Frye pulled down 8 rebounds and had 19 pts. As you correctly pointed out tazdingo, everyone looks like a superstar against the Warriors.

For me, Frye is still worth a pick up if your team's already got rebounds and blocks covered. He might even be good trade bait one day.

That's what I'm trying to do right now with another team... I'm hoping to try to lure in Chalmers...

anyone do a draft this week? what pick/round is he going now? 10th- 12th?

Frye could be interesting. I wouldn't mind using my late pick on him.

My only problem is at the draft there a bunch of guys I don't mind taking.

I am in an 8 team league with expanded rosters and I took him in the 23rd round (my last pick). Hes been on just about everyone in my leages team at one point and no one believes the hype......other then me i guess.

Its best to plug him in either at the F or one of the UTIL positions so that you are not torched by his anemic lack of rebounding......

And if you do, his C eligibility means nothing...which is why i dont like him. He's gonna be an average small forward with C-eligibility. If you start him at C, you're completely screwed.

From what I can see, he's being taken between 110 and 140. What are you guys complaining about? That late in the draft, I'm happy with a solid contribution in a couple of categories.

As someone else said, 15, 5 with .9 blocks and 1.4 tres plus solid percentages from my 11th round pick? If the guy could rebound, he'd be my 6th round pick. With my 11th pick, I'm happy if he is still on my team come January. With his minutes and role, he should have no problem. Nice value pick.

He's most definitely going to outperform his ADP, you can't do better at Yahoo! ADP of 187.

I like him for 15ppg/5rpg/1-3ptm/1bpg, especially in the run-and-gun offense and Steve Nash creating easy plays for him.

Essentially mehmet Okur without the rebounding and fg%

Why not simply just add the guy to your bench and start him against soft defenses like the Warriors. I think that's a perfect role for him on your fantasy roster since his lack of rebounding and blocks will kill you with prolonged use. That's how I'd use him anyway.

Not sure there is something wrong with that, given where he is going but I think you may be prematurely discounting his fg%. He's never really been in a position like this. He is going to have a ton of open looks and possibly the greatest pg ever to play the game when it comes to finding you in your sweet spot. 47% seems doable even considering his past.

I also for those of you who count offensive rebounds, you could be pleasantly surprised.

in regards to Channing Frye... i'm gonna be honest... i don't think he's gonna hold up too well throughout the season.
these preseason stats of his are way insanely too good for his own good. it's really all bullsh#t. it's a mirage.
as soon as the real season starts, he's gonna revert back to the passive role player that he always has been.
and i could see opposing teams going right at Frye and steamrolling all over him.
maybe to the point he gets into a lot of foul trouble.

Latest line: 9 points, 1 rebound. Don't forget how inconsistent he will be, and how damaging he will to your rebounds as a big man.

a guy like him... with 1 bad game, his confidence can get shaken to the point he'll play too tenative for the next couple games and suck. then ofcourse he might have another good game, but then he'll have another bad game, and the cycle continues.

frye en fuego

6 threes

Another center eligible that shoots threes!

yeah, vs the warriors so it's a nice line but everyone has nice lines against the warriors.

Nice line working again tonight, minus the boards.

If you have the boards to compensate and a utility position(or 2nd center slot in some leagues) available he's worth an add. He gives you great %'s usually. 3's at a position there aren't too many. And relatively low turnovers since he isn't handling the ball down low too much. But he still seems like a backup or spot start kind of player. I really don't like starting guys who are a teams 4th or 5th scoring option. Great in blowouts but most competitive games its hit and miss.

6 treys 8/12 FG

Did he ever do a number on a missed 3 pointer. Amare' rebounded then fed him as he slashed to the bucket with a power slam.

The announcers do bring up a very solid point with that type of move, that teams seeing game film, will have to be aware of his agility.

Update: 6/9 3's at end of 3rd

Yeah he's Gallianari hot right now. If he's on a wire he'll be gone by Monday in any active league.

if it was up to me, i would sell high like a motherfer.

I don't know. He has always had a nice outside touch and the system seems to work for him. He played well in the preseason. And an intangible being he played his college ball at Arizona U. So you could be looking at a guy motivated and happy in a role that plays to his strengths. The only downside outside of how devestating a cold night could be if you start him is what his role is when Robin Lopez is back in January. You have to guess he loses 5-10 minutes unless he is so hot they can't take him out and Robin Lopez might be looking at very small minutes.

Sellng high might not be the worst idea but given his position eligibility and all I posted its a better gamble to keep him unless you get a ridiculous offer.

Other then his garbage track record, what says he can't maintain decent production in this high offense Suns team?

What could you actually get in return if you wanted to sell high?

Damn it could of sold high on this guy. Should of never dropped him.

I watched this entire game, and I think what some of the detractors are missing is that Frye creates some intense mismatch problems for teams. I think about 3 or 4 of Frye's threes came direct off of pick and rolls where Frye's man, normally a guy who is playing down low, did not front on him, and just allowed him to shoot it. Honestly, his shot looked incredible. Kinda like he could keep doing it all year. And with Steve Nash, it seems he's got a guy who can get him that ball pretty easily. Another issue is that while it doesn't show up in the boxscore, he essentially was near a tremendous amount of boards, but guys like Richardson and Stoudemire were flying through the air to get them. He essentially deferred when he had to, and was aggressive when he needs to. I think he's playing with a confidence level that is linearly heading North, and when teams start to realize that they're going to have to account for him, it's gonna be at a point where his confidence level is so high, he'll be able to handle it.

"Selling High" is a misnomer on a guy you likely got with a low pick. He'll establish value over the next month or so, and if you want to sell then, you're likely to get your value at that point. Frankly, and I could be wrong, I don't see this train derailing. This system works perfectly for his talents. As soon as Amare starts going off, Frye's man is going to have to go down for the double team, leaving him or Richardson WIDE open. Barbosa almost seemed like an afterthought in this offense, btw.

I'm not a believer, even though he does prevent mismatch problems because of his size teams will start adjusting and he will see little to no room outside of the arc. Teams will probably have to start abandoning the massive amount of help they roll over to the Nash-Amare pick and rolls because Frye gives the Suns a legitimate 3PT threat (even more so than Marion). But you have to think with the added attention that Frye's percentages normalize and settle around something like 46-48%FG/35-40%-3PT, considering his current pace of 3PTA and FGA that leaves him at right around 2.1-2.5 (3PTM) and 5.5-5.7 FGM. I'd like to project him out at finishing around 13PPG/2-3PTM/6RPG/1SPG which is still very serviceable, but right now you might be able to get very good value.

Honestly, I think Frye caught these teams off-guard the past couple of games. Coaches were looking at past-stats and scouting reports and probably didn't put a big emphasis on telling their big men to guard Frye closely outside of the arc (Nobody knew Frye had this kind of "stand-still" catch and shoot prowess). You have to think now that teams will have to station their big man outside which is exactly what Phoenix wants in order for Nash to penetrate and dish and for Amare to operate in the paint.

Honestly, I disagree. Who do you want to beat you? Or better put, who do you think stands a better chance of beating you? Amare or Channing? Teams are not going to abandon the double-teams in order to guard Channing Frye like a glove and have Amare destroy their interior, both in scoring and causing fouls.

If someone is going to give you value equal to Frye's current numbers you should 100% grab it, but I doubt very highly someone would and you'd likely waste a lot of time and credibility trying to get them to.

He won't keep up this pace and I think that he is going to command a much larger effort from team on the defensive side. However, if the Suns can keep running, Frye will be a tough cover.

15ppg is certainly doable and 1.9 tres is certainly reasonable. I'll take that from my 3rd string center.

Obviously by name you'd rather have Channing Frye, but if it isn't obvious now that he can knock down 3's at an almost automatic rate when not being guarded I don't know when it will ever be. If I was coaching right now and preparing for PHX I'd almost have to mix it up on my defensive rotations, you can't simply sit another man behind the Amare-roll anymore and just let Nash dribble around the paint and find wide open shooters. PHX is about as close to where they were when they had reliable and deadly 3PT shooters in every spot around the floor around Amare Stoudemire and teams HAD TO respect the 3PT shooting.

What I've seen in the last couple of games, and I have watched them all from start to finish is that teams are basically squatting another defender right behind Stoudemire on every pick-and-roll and Nash is shredding them to pieces by making the correct pass to his perimeter players. In the past, because the Suns had so much shooting if you wanted to roll help you would have to at least WAIT until Nash would make the pass to Stoudemire before you could rotate.

That should return now, unless teams want to give up 20-3PT field goals a game. I'd rather not give up easy baskets in the paint, but wide-open threes shot by capable shooters will almost certainly bury you in minutes.

i doubt frye will stay hot like this all season, but i think he's gonna be a solid contributor for the suns this season. frye's 3's look butter right now, and with defenders collapsing on amare when he gets the ball in the post, one of the Suns shooters will be open majority of the time. guard Jrich or Frye? i think the answer is obvious lol.

i have sheed on my team and i wish i had frye instead. fantasy wise i rather have frye, but sheed's the better ball player.

The Suns have a lot of guys who command a double team and guys like Frye who will completely torch you if you leave them open on the perimeter. Plus they run, so teams will have to have to make their defensive decisions on the fly.

80% of the league probably can't deal with that, which is not so great from an NBA standpoint, since the 20% of teams that can deal with it are likely going to be playoff opponents.

From a fantasy perspective, it's freaking gold.

Frye has come back to earth quickly.

2 words, Boston Celtics.

Finally, a three

Ehm, PHX has 83 points with 2MIN left to go in the 3rd quarter. If anything, the Celtics defense has been terrible this game.

He was just dropped in one of my leagues