He is ,by far, the best dallas WR.. I think when Roy Williams gets healthy, Miles still finds his way into the starting lineup and gets ample playing time. I do believe he is the new #1 WR for Romo....Also a deep threat,ala T.O.

I'll second that opinion!

As a cowboys fan i will say he's a one week wonder.....His hands are usually comparable to Edwards

He dropped a few more TD passes earlier in the game didn't he?

This was the Chiefs we are talking about, did Romo look like he's worth a damn today?

I don't see this guy blowing up consistently ...he's worth an add if you have room but I really wouldn't expect much. They wont be playing KC every week and Williams will be back soon as well ...temper your expectations people.

That's the amazing thing. As good a game as he had, he dropped 3 more TD passes (1 had a high degree of difficulty)....He has great physical tools though....

His problem has always been staying healthy and mentally being ready to be a pro football player... He has always been a physically gifted reciever.. Right now he is healthy. He seems to have changed his attitude. And i know it was the Chiefs, BUT, if Roy williams was healthy and playing, could Roy have gone for 250 and 2 tds???? NOPE.
Roy Williams was supposed to be the go to guy this year. After the 1st game against TB, he fell off the map. So even when he gets healthy, miles will get his shot at PT

What's wrong with Roy Williams? Do you think he: prepares poorly, not a hard worker, overrated, bad route runner, not athletic, bad hands etc? Why has he struggled so much? He was a monster at Texas, I know that. Putting up numbers for Detroit doesn't mean anything really.

there is NO stand out receiver in dallas. im a dallas fan. i can say this for certain. the loss of a true deep threat has shown the glaring weakness in this team. i would not expect such things in the future, and the drops just show that he is not consistent enough. grats to anyone who used him as a one week player because williams was out, but i dont see this being a regular occurrence.

He just doesnt have the speed to get open deep in the spot they want to line him up. He just cant seem to stretch the field for them. I am here very close to cowboy country, so i see all the games. He gets open underneath.But if they just needed a guy to do nothing but get open underneath on 7 yard routes, they would throw to Witten 40 times a game. They need someone who can go deep, like T.O did. Crayton is another guy without the game breaking speed. So that makes your top 3 WR's(roy,witten,crayton) all guys who can stretch the field 15 yards and create space underneath... But now the defense knows you dont have that deep guy, so they can crowd all of them...
Basically, Roy Williams is a talented guy,with his size and hands. But he just doesnt fit into this sytem.

people that don't think he'll continue to be a bigger part of the offense and put up good numbers the rest of the way are crazy. He's clearly their best wr so they're going to get him the ball whether Roy Williams is healthy or not.

you areright on there...love roys size and all, but you need speed to go with it..
that combo is what made austin so impressive yesterday... the power to break the tackle and then the speed to pull away..
you saw andre johnson and brandon marshall use their combo talents to score touchdowns yesterday....

Just curious...did anyone start him yesterday? Did anyone benefit from this monster game?

I agree

I did!

then got shellacked by the combo of peyton and roddy..

Considering I had to decide between Coles. Caldwell, and Kevin Curtis as my #3 WR, I decided to take a chance at 9:30 a.m. on one Miles Austin. I reaped the benefits of a 42 point game and I couldn't be any happier. THANK-YOU Miles Austin.

Say hello to this week's Massaquoi.

Just waiting for all the "should I drop (insert servicable WR) for Austin?" questions on AC forum.

Except Tony Romo will never go 2/17 for 23 yards.

The targets and passing yards will be there in the Cowboys offense every game. The only question is who is going to get them.

Cleveland's O is on pace to be record setting bad.

Dallas's O is just sorta bad.

After watching the Chiefs vs. Cowboys game, I am not going to run to pick up Miles Austin. He struggled to catch the ball one several different occasions, and he was the beneficiary of a brutal Chiefs secondary. Had it not been for horrible tackling, he would have had about 130 yards and no scores. The two plays the Chiefs gave up to him were very similar to the one they gave up to a streaking Desean Jackson in week 3. Don't keep your hopes too high for this guy.

2 Questions if you guys know

1. How many targets did he get?

2. How come Romo didn't throw the ball to anyone else?

Exactly...it's Miles Austin...it's not like some player that came out of no where. But I do think he's worth a waiver grab if he get the starting gig over Crayton but temper expectations. KC defensive is awful.

Nevermind, 10 catches 15 targets. Not bad.

But how come Romo was feeding the ball to Austin?

wow, I agree with everything you have said in this thread, like you were reading my mind .

I said it before the game, the Boys need him to stretch the field and open up things for Witten and the stable of RB's. I agree on Roy as well.The big question is, where did his speed go??? When he came out of college he timed well and he looked plenty fast in Detroit, now in Dallas he looks terribly slow. What happened?

Cause he is there fastest WR that runs good routes



Is it just me or does Roy Williams of 2009 look alot bigger and bulkier than Roy williams circa 2004?? From my memory at Texas he almost seemed lanky..Now he looks like a giant.. Maybe he added to much muscle or bulk and it slowed him down.

Also, for you guys who dont expect him to do it again- Lets face it, thats a once in a career game for any wr. That broke a cowboy record for yards in a game. Of course he's not going to go for 250 yds on a consistant basis. The question is, can he be a big enough contributor to qualify as a #3 or even #2 wr from here on out. My opinion is yes.... One quick note- after the game Romo praised Austin for his effort and also said specifically that he needs to be a bigger part of the offense ,like he was today, going forward.. So i think he has the confidence of his QB.. He basically took the spot of an injured Roy W in this game. In this one game he got 15 targets. In 4 games roy w got 25 targets. So Romo sure looked to him alot more than he looks to Roy W. They still had a healthy witten,crayton and sam hurd(taking austins spot) in there.
Bottom line- Romo believes in this guy more than he believes in Roy W.And if you have a good QB and he favors you, that could be fantasy gold....or atleast silver in this case

It's Miles Austin....

Of course Romo is going to praise him, he had the best game ever by a Cowboys WR. But a few dropped passes and he will be back in the doghouse. We've all known he has blazing speed and is a great athlete but he drops to many passes to be a go to guy.

It's not just you, he does look to have gained some mass, if so he needs to lose it back.Right now he looks terrible out there.

Before the season I would have been with you on this but now not so much. I'm a life-long Cowboy fans well as a Roy Williams Dynasty owner so I have a definite interest in this and I gotta tell you, right now Roy sucks. Maybe it's the weight he looks to have put on, maybe its his work ethic, I dont know but at this point he is terrible. Pair that up with a talented but leaky defense and you have a team that will NEED to throw the ball quite a bit this year. Romo can only get so many passes to Witten so somebody will need to step up, why not Austin? I'm not saying he's gonna be a stud or even a weekly starter but he's worth a pickup.

I now you think, Mo Mass part 2 but this is an entirely different situation. He wont be doubled because of Witten and Roy still has a reasonably big name so coverages will roll to his side more often than not.Add in the solid running game and a good QB and Austin has some upside. For a WW player if he nets you 800-1000 yards on the year he is a huge success.

Braylon Edwards and TO say hello.. Chris chambers never had great hands, but he was a productive #1 in MIA for a few years.
I think he can and will be option A in Dallas, however that will just open things up for options B(Roy) and C(Witten) even more.. so he may not put up option A numbers..

Another flash in the pan flavor of the week WR - what a surprise. Lightning struck yesterday and it won't likely strike again.

Austin and Sam Hurd are basically clones of each other - if Roy is still down in wk 7 watch Hurd put up 130/2 while Austin posts a 35 yard day.

He has poor hands and he's not a particularly dominant receiver - I don't get the hoopla.

And to call him "option A" is pretty absurd. Yep - I guess Austin has become the new focus of the Dallas offense after a single game. WOW. He had 81 yds and a TD all season long before yesterday.

You'd think after the Massaquois love-fest just one week ago that this type of hyperbole would subside a bit - but it never does!!

He's a bigfast WR that can gain separation fairly easy.. important attribute because if he becomes to much to handle 1 on 1.. the opposition has no choice but to have a safety watch as well.. which certainly open's things up for everyone.
It's not so much about being the option A in the classic sense.. as it is more about being the first look.. which will make defenses take special care.. whether he drops balls or not will likely not matter all that much, b/c he wont getting force fed 12 targets a game like he's CJ or Fitz.

And MassaQ is in a completely different situation.. replace him with a number of bodies and the outcome will likely be the same.. that CLE O is a waste land. If you want an example, watch Louis Murphy week 1, and watch him now.. Same routes, still open, but the QB cannot get him the ball(he also does have dropsies).

I would tend to agree with you, though Austin has a couple of things going for him, Wade Phillips is trying to save his job, the offense has look putrid over the past few weeks and they are heading into a bye week. Coach has to do something to spark this offense and what better time to try and implement it during a bye week, I think he will be a starter when they come off the bye and they will try and get him the ball, whether he catches it is another question.

I wont respond to all the false information here but to say that Austin and Hurd are clones is ridiculous, they are nothing alike but carry on. I'm sure you dont follow the Cowboys that closely and have no idea here but if you do some research you will see why people think Austin has a "shot" to do something meaningful this year.

Latest.....Again, I think Crayton's the big loser here. Austin, if he can stay healthy and that's a big if, will eventually be promoted to starter and Crayton will move into the slot. I get what the poster meant by comparing Hurd and Austin as far as production and opportunity. They're nothing alike though. Austin is a big fast guy who has some skills getting downfield and can go up and make a play on the ball. Hurd is nothing more than another Crayton, possession receiver in making. Austin, ironically, may be one of the more important cogs in the Cowboy offense as he is the most likely Dallas' WR to go the distance at anytime. He should be able to run off safetys and run clear outs to allow Witten and Williams to work the short to intermediate routes. Still doesn't mean he's a fantasy starter, but his skills make the entire offense better. He's not the #1 option, Witten is, but he may have value especially if he supplants Crayton, something he Cowboys' staff have wanted him to do since mini-camps. Injuries just got in the way....

Coach Wade Phillips said Monday that Miles Austin's role in the Cowboys' offense will increase following his 250-yard game in Week 5.
However, Phillips wouldn't commit to promoting Austin into the starting lineup (Jerry Jones apparently hasn't given the mandate yet). "He did the things we thought he could," Phillips said. "You're not going to make 250 yards every time, but he's going to have a chance to make big plays." The Cowboys have a Week 6 bye to sort out their lineup. Austin needs to be on the first team.
Source: Dallas Morning News

Lots of good points in here-
1) Hurd is defintely more comparible to Crayton rather than Austin
2) Living in San Antonio and having the Cowboys train here for years recently, i have heard year after year about how great this kid Miles Austin is. And then he promptly goes out and gets hurt. So your observation about his injuries is right on.
3)Witten is still the #1 option. That is correct. And nobody who is pro-Austin is saying he is the new #1 over Witten. But like Bateman said, he is the most likely to take it to the house.So he could hold more value than the other WR's(not TE)

Yeah, and this is the same guy who only had 13 receptions but with 3 TD's and was a deep threat for the Cowboys in 2008, averaging 21.9 yards per reception, an NFC East best. This is also the same Miles Austin that has drawn T.O. comparisons. I can understand your argument saying he drops too many balls, but more concentration and lots of practice can correct this. I mean, did you know one of the greatest receivers to ever play the game had issues of dropping balls left and right in games at the beginning of his career, to the point he would cry from the boo's from the fans? His name is Jerry Rice.

Last sentence in bold, so what is Brandon Marshall for the Broncos?

Austin: Born 1984. 6'3" 214 lbs. career 20.8 ypc.
Hurd: Born 1985. 6'2" 208 lbs. career 16.1 ypc.

Ridiculous.

if you were talking strictly size and age, I apologize. I thought you were speaking to their game type, not size and age.

I thought ypc would be a nice little indicator of "game type" - considering there's a whopping 4.7 ypc difference I'd imagine you'd want to overlook that.

Ever consider that maybe the reason Hurd has such a high YPC is that he is only on the field in dire situations or the fact that ypc in this small sample size can be inflated by blown coverages etc.?

I thought not, your just another know-it-all internet hero. Tell us more Oh Mighty One.

1st round pick- 6'3- 225 -born 1981-15.5 ypc- andre johnson
1st round pick- 6'3- 220 -born 1981-12.2 ypc- charles rodgers

AJ/Rodgers are nothing alike in game and niether are Austin/hurd

It's about time I get the respect I deserve around here.

Here are a few more stats right off the top of my head (the legend continues):

Austin: 33 games played (@ WR - his rookie season was all ST work) 33 career receptions
Hurd: 36 games played, 29 career receptions

So Hurd's vast 29-catch body of work has only occurred in dire situations, while Austin's impressive 33-catch resume has been constructed only within the normal flow of games. Seems like a stretch for a know-it-all like me to make that conclusion based on such a small sample of data.

ok bro, argument over. I'm sure you are a cool guy and truly believe they are clones, I'll agree to disagree. Good luck with your fantasy season sir.

Well ,ultimately it comes down to opportunity and the coaching staff obviously favors Austin right now over Hurd.

I only brought Hurd up because it's yet another example of how many mouths to feed there are in this offense. Combine that with an erratic, inconsistent/overmatched QB and my hopes aren't high for any type of consistency from anyone. Even Witten is coming up short this yr.

Maybe Austin will become a reliable WR2-type but I've seen little to be excited about over his 1st few years in the league.

Please never mention Miles Austin and Jerry Rice in the same paragraph again.

And Brandon Marshall is just an overall WAY better WR than Miles Austin. I don't even want to expend the energy to argue this because it's like trying to argue why Andre Johnson is better than Devery Henderson.

Guess it just comes down to being a believer or not...and I am on the not side. I'm more of a believer that this was a fluke game for Austin and that he is at best a bye week flex play. I don't think he'll be completely useless as I think he will get more looks now. I just don't want him on my team.

Poor guy. Every week a guy comes from nowhere and puts up a career day. The bandwagon begins and every week folks come out and just hammer the guy trying to counterpoint the bandwagoners......If you read some of these posts, you'd think the guy has no business playing even flag football. On the other end of the spectrum, comparisons to Rice and Marshall may be a little premature. Every week. We're all looking for the next Steve Smith (NYG) or Marques Colston from his rookie year. This year we've had Meachum, Manningham, Massaquoi, and now Austin. Time will tell, but the odds are definitely against him being a fantasy difference maker....

true...but when you look at the cowboys' situation...where you have a guy who can get it downfield...has a great running game...a great TE and what they lack is a big, physical receiver with speed.

you can see where austin could click.

massaquoi is insulting to anybody with football acumen. manningham's book isn't done, and i believe he just caught a few and scored a touch. meachum is a bad receiver with an incredible QB.

colston isn't in Dallas. that's the whole point of austin..

right?

speaking for me and every one who faced miles austin...........ahem.........f--- you miles austin.......that is all