What's the deal with his guy?

BBM and rotowire have him ranked very high, and I'm not sure why. I'd like to draft him because he's going very late, where is all this extra production is supposed to come from? Is there a reason (besides natural progression) that these guys are high on DJ?

thoughts?

from what ive read....he's supposed to be highly regarded by Larry Brown and is being groomed to take over PG duties. might happen this year.

In 12 starts as a rookie he averaged 17.8 ppg, 5.6 apg, 1spg, and 2.5 3-pointers per game with good percentages (.467/.872)

He'll be great when he gets starter duties, that's an unknown at this point though.

Coming off the bench Augustin is no more than a solid end of the draft source of some threes and above average points for that juncture in your draft. As a starter Augustin is capable of putting up something like the line that TMWTP stated he had last year as a rookie starter. It's all about opportunity for him. If you can wait long enough to get him in your draft that the back-up production is OK, I think he'd be a great pick since he's likely to become a starter by the end of the year.

wow, huge night. I just picked him up for channing frye. i don't know how he'll get the minutes, but if he gets them, he'll be a monster.

It's 2 things with DJ. One: Minutes. As a backup PG/SG he doesn't get enough minutes to be very productive unless you need some 3's. and Two: Sustainability. The knock on DJ has always been that he's really small for the NBA. Many believe that 33-35 mpg as a starter will result in injuries or breaking down of his body. Thought on this anyone?

My thoughts are that with starters minutes he'd become extremely valuable as he can provide you with good all-around numbers. I worry a bit that he will break down, but it didn't keep me from keeping him this year with full expectations that he's starting around the AS Break. If you can get him late, I think it's worth the pick.

Only worth picking up if Felton goes down with an injury or gets traded...

Yea we all waited for either or to happen last year, but never did to the extent he fully had the job. I really wish the kid could be the starting PG hes a potential fantasy stud.

of if something happened to raja bell

He's the 6th man. ONE injury....and he's a stud.... with no injury....he's just "ok"...That's worth a end of the draft pick up.

raja should be of interest to a contender at some point.

I got him at pick 161 in my draft and was delighted he was available. Charlotte will be a fool not to play him a ton of minutes this season since both Felton and Bell will be UFA next summer. The Bobcats are going to be terrible again this season so I think DJ ends up in the starting lineup well before the all star break and he's going to put up crazy numbers.

This has to do with the Larry Brown effect. His coaching is so old school and stubborn that he cant adjust his style to the personnel he has. Personally, id be starting Augustin ahead of Felton. And i would do it this season!

Not sure if I follow the logic on this one. If Chandler goes down, does he become a stud?

I'm guessing they are putting up the for sale signs on Felton which is why he's coming off the bench. Basketball-wise it'd be better to swap the two as Augustin's a better Larry Brown PG and Felton would fit an offensive off-the-bench burst - at least in my opinion. By the end of the trade deadline I'm betting they hope Felton's wearing another jersey and they have someone more than Chandler manning the post.

Wow, Bell might need surgery, and i just dropped Augustin for brewer! agh!

Ya never know, maybe go small ball with Diaw at C, Crash at PF, Bell at SF, DJ and Ray in the backcourt??

This could be huge for Augustine..no way Bell makes it through the year with a torn wrist..is it his shooting hand? Im thinking of offering Tyreke Evans for him..

Not good news for me!

I'm trying to trade him (Raja Bell) right now.

If Bell is going to miss most of the season, DJ is going to be a steal for those that drafted him already. In his 12 starts last season, he put up 17.8 points, 5.6 assists, 1.1 steals and 2.6 3-pointers as a rookie.

scummy

wow, i just took him with my last pick - like freakin' 20 minutes ago!

terrible move, even w/o bell's surgery. why, why, why?

RW's blurb: "...Another possibility is that rookie Gerald Henderson will be promoted to the starting five. "
why the f would henderson make the five before DJ??

Wow, this will be Augustin's job no doubt about it, where would you guys take him assuming Bell is out. He seems like he's and end of the draft pick as of right now, but one thing for sure is I DO NOT want to miss out on him if Bell is out for the year. I think id go after him in say the 10, 11 round possibly sooner. DJ with a starting position is fantasy gold in my book, threes assists, high FT%, the guy is the real deal.

I love DJ. It's not certain he'll start yet even if Bell is out, but he would get more minutes. Too much upside, I had to lock him up.

Latest nos. today

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brewer owns the timberwolves now. he's gonna be a beast. without bell's surgery, it would be a great move. check his box score tonight. he needs his own thread.

if bell get's surgery, it's prolly an awful move tho. i held dj even when there was no chance of him starting, and ONCE i drop him, this happens.

i'm praying bell comes back. i would die inside if i just dropped a top 50 player

i've been drinking the dj koolaid for a while now, so my reply may be a tad biased.
with starting minutes at the point, dj is totally capable of 18PPG, 5.5APG, 1.5 3PG, stellar FT%, 1STL. tho i'd totally love 20+PPG, 8AST, 2.5 3PM
relatively speaking, with rose/westy going in the 4th-6th rounds, I'd say taking DJ in the 6th-7th is not out of the question. Im a bit of a crazy drafter, i had originally targeted him in the 4th (yes, i know thats way too high), but luckily for me, after filling team needs, i was still able to land him in the 10th round, 11th pick, 12team money league. STOKED!
The key to making sure you don't miss out on him is to reach, how much you want to reach just depends on how much you want him, and if you can go a whole year of fantasy w/o him. being lucky def. helps too

i dont think theres enough upside for brewer. "owns" the twolves? probably not... hot temporary pickup? sure.
w/o bell's surgery, dj was/is the 6th man, primary scorer off the bench, backing up the 1 and the 2. so 30 mins was likely.
now as a starter, he gets a slight bump in minutes, but having the reins on the offense is whats key.
he was an "own" as a 6th man, a MUST OWN top 50 (like you said) as a starter. even without injury, i woulda held onto him all year. ALL YEAR.

o, dont pray bell comes back. IIWII.
all in all, us dj-owners would like to thank you for dropping him. haha, j/k.
whats your waiver priority? maybe you can pick him back up!

i love DJ but its going to be hard for the bobcats to start two 6 footer in as their backcourt....If Bell gets injured, I see henderson geting the nod for 20-25 min and DJ will still get his 25-30 min....

Where do you think DJ should be drafted in a non-TO league, if drafting this weekend?

10th round

Because outside of Felton, the Bobcats don't have any other PG. DJ is more a combo guard than a real playmaker.

If Bell misses time, it's plain obvious DJ will get a ton of minutes. But so will Flip Murray who will get a ton of mins at SG when DJ plays at the 1.

DJ's size still worries me. Can he take the constant beating of an 82 game schedule. He's real physical but real small.

If he doesn't do surgery how long will he be out for before he returns? Even without surgery, is it wise to drop him knowing he will miss a large portion of games this season?

Yo - Probably helpful to say that you are actually talking about Raja Bell in a DJ Augustin forum so no one gets nervous here. And no one knows now, but it's looking like Raja Bell could be out 1-8 weeks with no surgery and potentially alot longer with surgery. Maybe in a week we'll know for sure the course of action from CHA.

If bell is lost for the season I see DJ starting and posting 14ppg-3rpg-6apg-42%fgs-88%fts-1.8 threes-2.5 tos-1.1 steals

More points.

I'm gonna wake up at 5 on friday so i can get him after he clears waivers (hopefully nobody wants to use their waiver before the season starts). I'm so mad i dropped him right before hearing the news.

Line seems about right. I could see 16ppg and 5apg, but overall that looks about right imo.

With Bell's wrist injury, could it lead to an opportunity for him to start?

what would being small have anything to do with it? its not football

CP3 is listed as 6ft, 175. DJ is listed as 6ft 180. And Iverson played pretty physical at 6ft 165.

Seriously? It's a physical game. He's had injuries before. It's not like he's an ironman. The quote has nothing to do with his tenacity, it has everything to do with going into the lane and getting pounded for 82 games. He's not exactly a big guard. CP3 is very very good at avoiding unnecessary contact and Iverson in his prime was a freak of nature. I'm just asking if anyone else is concerned with his size for how physical of a league the NBA is.

I drafted DJ Augustin. I wasn't concerned with his durability before, but after somebody pointed out his physique it does make me nervous.

I do not consider CP3 a player known for his durability. Iverson, on the other hand, was very durable... but I can't think of too many skinny guys with his durability.

Playing style / injury history / physique all play a role in durability, but in my opinion the biggest factor is still luck.

When I see DJ, he is short compared to most out on the court but physically he doesn't look all that much smaller. He looks fine to me. I actually think CP takes way more of a pounding than DJ will as CP goes hard to the hoop a lot. DJ is a little more perimeter oriented and doesn't have that special burst to go the lane as much. He'll be quicker in a different way if he shoots consistently from the outside and being able to go by his defender as they have to suck out to guard him outside. The guy is a heady player and needs to play. Felton is really a reckless two guard in a point guard's body.

those 2 are the exception and not the norm. I do agree with the poster that augustin is more perimeter oriented which makes him a better person to not get injured. Im still not sold of them bobcats starting both of them at the same time. I mean Augustin will still get his 25-30 min but probably not the 35 min everyone wants him to get at sg. No doubt felton and augustin will be on the floor together and probably most of the 4th where they can utlize DJ's ft%, ball handling, and threes.

Actually they played those two together a lot last year and it actually worked out well offensively as Felton is more of a 2 than a 1. The problem comes on the defensive end playing both of them. The Bobcats don't really have anything to loose. They aren't going anywhere except up or down with lottery balls. Don't know why they would want Chandler over Okafor for only salary cap reasons. The only problem with Augustin is since he's not a real good penetrator is his assists. I don't know if they have enough shooters on that team for him to get decent assist numbers. But for where you get him, his value would be pretty good I think. Charlotte doesn't appear to really want Felton so playing Augustin is going to become more important. Do they trade Felton or keep him until the end of the year is more of a question on Augustin's value of this year. Bell was in decline before the injury.

Nash is 6'3 178
Rondo 6'1 171
D> Harris 6'3 185
T. Parker 6'2 185

All of these guys carry about the same weight on taller bodies, which means they have smaller frames.

Baron davis and wade have bigger frames and they can't stay on the court.

Staying healthy for a basketball player has everything to do with style of play or even genetics rather than size of player.

Looks like Bell might be ok and leaning towards not having surgery. If that's the case, we may be looking at DJ starting for a few weeks before taking a backseat to Bell and Felton again. This is of course, assuming that DJ doesn't do enough to prove he should STAY in the starting lineup making Bell a defensive specialist or 6th man for the season. Personally, I think we'll find out that Bell will undergo surgery tomorrow.

According to Rotoworld:



The fact that he's still able to hoist treys and go through layup drills definitely makes me hesitate when it comes to moving D.J. up my rankings. Still, if he's available late I'll probably have to pull the trigger. Either way he should see consistent burn over the second half of the season and seems assured of outperforming his ADP.