He's been discussed in a few threads, but I couldn't find his own for this year.

He refuses to die.

He is going to cost me a loss this week, which will break my perfect 5-0

I am playing against him this week. Nothing more.

I think you just say these things.

Yeah owning Leon Wasington just doesn't seem as smart as it did when I drafted him.

Look at his stats in weeks I do not play him

playing against Sidney Rice, Thomas Jones, Schaub, and MJD this week.

Outside of two weeks, he's been very productive. Not sure how many times you can face him over the course of 6 weeks though.

Another strong game from Thomas Jones. People seem to forget that he posted top 5 RB stats last year. I think his value will increase as a result of Washington's injury. Granted Greene is the jets RB of the future and looked explosive.
Any thoughts about Thomas Jones going forward and the impact the rookie Shonne Greene will have on him?

i drafted him last year since favre was on the team...it payed off.....passed on him this year, thinking he would decline with a rookie qb...guess not.

but i dunno how long those 31 year old legs can keep up down the stretch....

Using Shonn Greene may prolong his longevity since Green will spell Jones, wear down opposing defenses due to his size and power (ala Jacobs), and hopefully make it easier for Jones to produce.

He's been really solid this season. I'm glad that Greene is also an effective runner, so Jones won't wear down. I think he'll still be the goal line back, so it won't matter.

really nothing new here... jones is always ridiculed and left for dead in the offseason only to reward owners who took him later in drafts... and with washington's injury, it looks as though jones will still have life after this season as a jet (poor leon, he shouldn't signed the jets' offer this offseason)... i don't see how they don't give jones a new deal under the circumstances (obviously, it will be a short term deal where he may have to take a backseat to greene)...

Gotta avoid those players who are 30 and over. Cause they all start to decline at that age.

See Jones , LT , TO to name a few.

I agree with the statement about 30 and over RB's but, I don't agree with 30 and over for WR's. Maybe greene will help him stay fresh without taking too much value.

TO won't put up his usual numbers that he does yearly with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Trent Edwards whenever he comes back from his concussion as his QB. TO is gone and will leave Bills after this year he is only signed for 1 year.

Huh? He's playing the best football of his career these past two seasons.

He seems to me to have something left in the tank and will be playing hard for a contract and to ward off greene.

What will be the impact of the Leon injury?

Theoretically Greene replaces Washington in the NYJ RBBC...

Jones used to get all the GL carries because he was the bigger, stronger back.

Will NYJ give more GL carries to Shonn Greene because he is MUCH bigger and stronger than Thomas Jones?

Greene is seriously packing an extra 20-30 pounds on Jones, and unlike Jones he is is a true power back.

Without Goal Line carries, Thomas Jones is garbage.

What happens at the Goal Line? Barring a Greene fumble or something that makes Ryan lose confidence, it might be Greene?

Only 3 other RBs outproduced T.Jones. Plus, he did it splitting carries with Leon Washington. T.Jones still gets no respect.

That's because he sucks in real life and does well in fantasy because he's so damn lucky and is in a good situation.

sounds personal. A lot of luck is involved in fantasy and TJ has been very lucky the past several years.

Haha yeah I guess his luck does piss me off just a bit... And you're right that luck is a huge factor in FF. Must be a bit of Dr. Whom syndrome because he always seems to go off against me. I am a bit bitter that I lost by 1 point the week he scored that TD after the Braylon TD that shouldn't have been called back and then another one on that phantom interference call.

Still though, I don't think he deserves any respect for being lucky .

He's a good back--doesn't have blinding speed but he's fast enough to break a long run from time to time, and still strong enough to move the pile on short gains. Also, he gets the goal line carries. There's a little bit of luck in the Braylon TD thing mentioned above, but all in all luck has nothing to do with it. He's good.

Not sure how anyone could rationally characterize all of his success this year and last as pure "luck." Doesn't make much sense. You don't rack up 600 yards (86 YPG), and gain 5 yards per carry, and score 7 TDs...all in 7 games...in the NFL...based on luck.

Well part of his "luck" is having any easy schedule.

It also depends if you classify being on a good, run first team with a good o-line as "lucky" or not I suppose.

Emmitt Smith was one lucky dude. Barry Sanders was unlucky.

Some guys succeed mainly because of their situation, despite average talent. Thomas Jones is one of those guys.

And scoring TDs is absolutely luck, or at least situation.

WHAT??????

Emmitt Smith was lucky??? I HATE the cowboys but Emmitt Smith was one bad ass RB idk what your smoking that mixes skill with luck. He might not have been as good if he would have played with a shittier team but he still was a bad ass RB

I didn't say Emmitt wasn't good at all. The reason I brought him up is because if you look at just his numbers (read: fantasy points), he looks like one of the greatest RBs of all time (league's all time leading rusher) and some people really think he is top 5 all time. If you watched Emmitt Smith play during his prime, you know that he was pretty good but without the supporting cast he wouldn't have been anything close to what he became. He didn't have size, he didn't have speed, he didn't even have elite agility. His best asset was that he possessed amazing vision and patience, which was a perfect fit for running behind that unbelievably good O-line. He also could avoid the big hit and ran low to the ground, which made him durable and hard to bring down. The passing game also set up the run perfectly. Defenses were totally screwed trying to defend that team and Emmitt was the biggest benefactor.

Barry Sanders was WAY WAY better than Emmitt Smith as a running back, and I don't think that's even disputable. Barry Sanders couldn't put up the fantasy points that Emmitt Smith put up because he was unlucky while Emmitt was on the other end of that spectrum. Emmitt Smith rushed for 46 TDs over a 2 year period. Barry Sanders rushed for 99 TDs in his 10 year career.

Not trying to say Emmitt was worthless and his career was luck or anything, I'm saying he was in a lucky situation compared to Barry Sanders that makes him appear to be better than he really was. It's the same way that Thomas Jones is in a "lucky" situation compared to a guy like Steven Jackson.

I'm not even saying Jones is horrid, just that he's not even close to as good in real life as his fantasy numbers/stats say he is.

Is it time to capitalize on his success?
or
Will he continue to produce at this level?

What do you think?

What are some comparable names in fantasy you'd consider a lateral trade for Thomas, King of the Biceps?

I would hold onto T.Jones.

Upcoming sched is...
JAX
@NE
CAR
@Buf (toronto)
@TB
ATL
@IND
Cin (week 17)

Don't see too many tough run def's on the schedule and he is the focal point of that offense. He will get all goaline carries as well, or most. A lot of those are winnable games for the jets so i would think they should be in front and be able to run more. Although u never know with the jets, since they already lost to buff once!

As far as Sanchez, he will be eratic but the o-line and run game is good enough to translate into points for jones. Some of the teams upcoming don't have great secondaries either so i can't see him killing his value.

I was actually contemplating trading Turner + WR for Jones + a better WR to see if the person doesn't value Jones as much even tho his numbers are great and i think should be on par or exceed turners.

If you're selling, I'll take him. Somehow he still remains one of the most underrated backs in the league over the past two years, despite putting up monster numbers.

I admit I was skeptical of him coming into the season. Not many 31 year old backs have continued success in the NFL as a lead back. I still have concerns about him breaking down, but I've been wrong about him this season thus far. I wouldn't sell him necessarily unless you can get top 5 RB or WR value. He's got a great OL, an offense predicated on the run and as referenced a very good schedule. If you can acquire Greene as his handcuff, then I would love to own the Jets running game....

Because he's so underrated, you'll never get comparable value for him. Despite really high levels of production last year and this year, people still expect him to falter, or still think he's just been lucky etc. You can only sell high when a guy is over-hyped, and somehow that still hasn't happened with Jones. Given that and his upcoming schedule, I'm holding onto him.