Had a pretty nice game last night: 23 points, 7 boards, 3 assist, 3 steals, 1 block, 2 threes, 7-10 ft line, 7-17 fg! He was already starting at the 2 when Love went down, now with Jefferson possibly being hurt, could C. Brewer be a lite version of Shawn Marion? What do you guys think?

Brewer could be a beast if Jefferson goes down for an extended period of time. I would still like to hear what you guys think.

I knew it was only a matter of time before a Corey Brewer thread got started

He's looking good in the preseason, but i'm still dubious. He's more known as a defender, kind of like a Jared Jeffries type. But a 6'9" SG who can cover the SF can't be all bad seeing as how he's bound to get steals and blocks. He'll do damage to your FG% too, unless by some miracle he's improved that over the offseason.

I'm keeping my eye on him though because he's gonna have to prove himself this year if he wants the team to pick up his option next year. So far he hasn't done anything to justify the 7th pick they used on him and he's on the verge of becoming a Stro-Swift type bust. With Miller, Foye, McCants gone, and with Rambis willing to give him plenty of minutes, he's a sleeper for sure.

There is a lot to like about Brewer. He is going to get minutes, he has a good attitude, is very athletic and goes to the basket well and is a great defender. If he finally has developed a consistent jump shot, he will be a great value with your last pick in the draft. I don't think he is on a lot of people's radar after not showing much early in his career. I would really like to see him play in the preseason to see how he is getting his points. Is it all fast breaks or is it within Rambis's new offense.

Take his preseason stats and project them over 34 mpg. There is NOBODY that couldnt use that type of production.

19.7 pts - 5.9 rebs - 2.3 ast - 2.5 stls - .7 blks - 1.4 treys

I'm already punting fg%, so this guy is money.

Im gonna go out on limb and say HE AINT GONNA AVERAGE THOSE NUMBERS...

Those 2.5 steals just way too much for someone who has barely played the regular season...

Yeah, there's no way, you're talking about Chris Paul numbers if you're asking for 2.5. People have to temper their expectations on him, he's still coming off of a serious injury and even prior never shown anything for long periods of time. With that being said, late flyier on him or waiver wire add is not bad.

He might be a less-efficient Ronnie Brewer, good for steals and for 10ppg/4rpg with a three sprinkled in here and there.

He may even score a bit more than 10 ppg. Who is gonna score the ball after AL and Gomes, esp. with Love out?

I didnt just pull those numbers out of nowhere. i took his preseason stats and multiplied them by about 1.3 (~34 mins/25 mins)

will he be that good? i dont know. probably not, but he'll definitely be better than 10/4. He's the #1 option until AJ comes back, and the #2 option until christmas. After that, who knows. But I think he'll be very good for the remainder of 2009 at least.

AJs coming back on opening night, if we're to believe what Rambis is saying. And Im thinking Gomes is option #2.

Brewer isn't a bad gamble. Like I said - he's got to prove to the league that he's worth having in their team next summer (or maybe even before). If you're the type who'd gamble on Yi, then Brewer's got about roughly the same odds to break out this season IMO.

Are you kidding me?? this guy is not a scorer and preseason doesn't mean much. He will not be #1 or #2 option even if Al and love are out. He's got more of a Battier skill set.

Battier Skill Set? So you mean a guy who will at a minimum go 10 points, 6 boards, 3 assist, 1 three, 1 steal, 1 block a night? In Roto that is way more valuable then some hack scorer like Rip Hamilton, or Al Thorton (who are both drafted in late rounds). Stop hating on him. He's had a nice preseason and might be a good end of a bench type of guy.

I'm predicting 12 points, 1.5 threes (Minnesota has nobody who shoots outside), 6 boards, 3 assist, 1.5 steals and 1 block.

6 Boards seem high, maybe 3-4 rebs. Other projections seem possible. Oh and Ryan Gomes, who should get the majority of the PT with Love out, can shoot from outside.

I really am dubious about trusting prorated projections based on added minutes. There is zero guarantee a player with increased minutes can maintain his efficiency from what he might have played before. Fatigue has to be a factor in projections. There is also the possitbility of added minutes putting a player in more foul trouble. Given his aggressive defensive style that could happen. That said Brewer is a perfect flex player to own to backup your main guys or supplement your team as he is going to be a positive force on your roto team. H2H value probably is higher since he's helping you everywhere.

Dude is 6'9" and again I know it's preseason, he has averaged about 26 minutes a game and has had 5, 5, 2, 4, 7 boards each game. I'm assuming he gets another 2 to 3 boards over the next 8 weeks with Love out.

About Ryan Gomes shooting from outside..... he's the only other threat outside. I think Brewer will have to shoot outside.

BTW, Gomes might be another good pick up. He was awesome the last 30 games of last year.

Post All-Star 31 games 32:36 43.1 fg% 1.3 3's 80.6 ft% 5.5 boards 1.7 assist 0.7 steals 0.3 blocks 16.3 points

Yup. A lot of people are overlooking Gomes right now. As I said in a previous post, Miller, Foye and McCants are gone - effectively leaving Gomes as the only outside threat in their starting five. Even when Love comes back, Gomes will have a big part to play for the Wolves this year IMO.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/breweco01.html

You can take a few preseason games as your sample size, I'll take his 94-game career in games that matter. For his career, he is averaging 5.9 points, 0.1 threes, and 0.3 blocks on 38% FG shooting in 22.4 mpg. Even if he got 33 mpg and those rates all held steady, neither of which are anything like a guarantee in my book, there's nothing remotely impressive about 8.8 ppg, 0.2 threes, and 0.5 blocks, still on an absolutely horrendous sub-40 FG%. I have no idea where this 1-1-1 talk is coming from. Other than giving something like 1.5 steals, what categories do you expect him to be any good in?

Of course, this isn't even considering that he has competition for SG minutes from Sessions and Ellington, among others. SF minutes may be a little more open if Gomes has to play PF, but that's only going to have a slight effect at most.

I disagree (no I'm not a Brewer owner).

1. According to Rambis, he'd rather not have Sessions and Flynn share the back court.
2. Brewer is their best defender. Guys like him always get minutes (except if they're in GSW, PHX or NYK where defense is long dead). Especially a 6'9" shooting guard who can defend opponents' best SGs.
3. The fact that he can play at both the 2 and 3 means he'll never be short of minutes.
4. The Wolves have an option on him next year if I remember correctly. Two things are bound to happen - he's going to work his butt off, and they're going to showcase him.

I'm not expecting him to be spectacular or consistent. I think he'll have Battier type nights, and Bruce Bowen type nights. Don't expect him to save your FG% either. He's a gamble, but he's got a lot riding on this season. That's enough incentive for him to have a career year.

That's cause Al Jeff was injured.

Can anyone remind me why Brewer didn't play last year?

coming off acl i think?

That enough for me not to care about brewer just yet.

I guess potential, growth, and improvement are not in your vocabulary? So Channing Fry and Roy Hibbert will probably both be 4 points 3 rebound guys this year as well, if were looking at their last 94 games? There is this thing called oppurtunity, that comes into play. I'm not worried about Sessions or Ellington. Sessions cannot play shooting guard and he will be in a time share with Flynn. This is a different team, and without Love, It's my belief that Brewer can be the Trevor Ariza or better from last year. Trevor Ariza was a nice end of the bench guy contibuting in all catagories.

I am not buying the Corey Brewer hype... And there are several reasons:

1. I've seen him play in person

I watched a couple of his games in the Vegas Summer League this year - he just can't do anything.If you can't dominate summer league play then you can't contribute in the NBA.

2. He's still shooting like crap in the preseason

For those of you hyping about his preseason numbers, please realize he's shooting 37.1%

3. The replacement refs will be gone

He's getting most of his points from the free throw line. The replacement refs have been calling way too many fouls during the preseason, so when the real refs come back Brewer won't to the line as much now. This is a guy who gets to the line fewer than 2 times a game in his career.

3. Common sense

He's Corey Brewer.

Corey Brewer was on my radar last season until I saw a couple of his games, he has a very lanky NBA body with long arms so he does have a penchant for steals. However, his frame is frail, his jumpshot is terrible, and his dribbling is a turnover ready to happen.

He's very raw, while I expect him to score 8-12 points for a couple months just because of MIN's injuries you'd have to think he will have terrible FG% and high TO's. You could draft him for steals though, as with 30+ mpg I think he can average +1.5.

I guess I'm running this Corey Brewer Fan Club. Another good game last night. I know injuries are part of his scoring, but even when Al Jeff comes back, he will open things up for him.

21 points, 7-15 fg, 6-6 ft, a three, 2 assist, and 2 blocks.

Sorry, but I just think that for the next two months he will be a nice player.

Agreed.

Yah, he has to rely on injuries, but i dropped my last pick for him, so once Minny is back to full strength I can just find somebody else.

I realized last year, that not picking someone up b/c they don't have long term value isn't always wise. I thought that about Marquis Daniels and let some one pick him up last year. I was thinking about Eric Gordon and thought that he wouldn't remain a starter, what a bad decision that was. Those are two examples off the top of my head. I promised myself this year that I would just ride a guy until he's done and go with the next guy. Might as well take the extra stats for the 2 months until Love is back in. Getting off to a great start in H2H helps a lot.

I watched the game on Local TV last night. I have watched him for three years. His offensive game does look like it has improved. Detroit did not look particularily enthused about playing last night.

But that being said, Brewer hit the only 3pt shot he took last night. He made several other outside jumpers, which is the worst part of his game. There were several nice driving moves to the basket. To me it was a big improvement over what I have seen in prior years. The Wolves have Jonny Flynn, Ryan Gomes and that is about it right now. Pecherov was launching outside shots with nobody guarding him last night. Who knows if he can do that on a regular basis. The point is that they need Brewer's minutes and they need him to score when he is out there. If he is there in the last round, he could be a great value if he can keep up what he was doing last night. He works hard and hustles. So the blocks, rebounds, free throws and steals will probably be pretty consistent all year. The question is his outside shooting which has been horrible in the past. Opponents know he can go to the basket. So they will dare him to make that outside shot. If he can do that, he will be a good fantasy option. If not, he was your last pick and you find someone else.

Speaking outside of fantasy basketball terms here - the Wolves will definitely need him on the court a lot. He is their best perimeter defender. Now, whether that translates well into fantasy stats is another thing. BUT - a lot of minutes on the court means a chance, and thats very important. If he doesnt produce, who cares? Did anyone here draft him earlier than the 12 round? I didn't think so!

p.s. Oily "Stewie" Pecherov is another matter altogether. It will take season ending injuries to both AJ and Love for that guy to be relevant.

Brewer from last night:

15 points on 5-9 shooting, 8 boards, 3 assist, 3 steals, and a Three.

He played 35 minutes, while Ellington and Sessions didn't play 30 minutes combined.

I still believe

Watch these clips.... dude has skills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8jyFzRHImM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaDKtbPxHx4

Solid post. Drafted him in round 14 last night (pick #163).

sleeper of the year

We'll see how his game responds to the REAL refs... Keep in mind that the replacement refs seem to inflate certain players' value because of how frequent they send guys to the FT line... I was watching that Wiz vs 76ers game where Mike James was "fouled" on the last play at the act of shooting a 3... That was just plain horrid and I really don't care for either team...

Interesting that you bring up Ariza --- Draft Express had his downside as a Trevor Ariza and upside of Josh Smith.

Wow, having a downside of Ariza is good enough to draft in the last round!

DraftExpress refers to him coming out of college, and that was years ago when Ariza was an injury-prone nobody and Brewer was a lotto pick.

Brewer's a fine late-round flyer - I took him in the last round of a draft too - but anything about him on DX is well past its expiration date.

1 for freaking 11
This guy is a fg % assassin

8 rbds, 3 stls, 1 blk


3/14 fg

He took the most shots for Wolves and is an all-rounder. He's gonna be good this year.

he led the team in minutes today with 33. good sign.

If he hit more of his shots that night he would have ended up with a pretty decent line. 3 more field goals and he would have ended up with 13 pts, 8 rebs, 3 steals and 1 block and only 2 TOs.

Let's hope he improves his shooting.

I actually watched some footage of Brewer the other day. Honestly, he doesn't look skilled on the offensive end at all. His rebs and points are gonna go way down when AJ turns it on and Love comes back. I guess he'll be a decent steals specialist tho.

I respectfully disagree for a number of reasons. I don't think Al Jeff is going to turn it on any time soon. I watched the game the other night and AJ is a shell of himself at this point. I think AJ can still help the Wolves in the shape he is in. But he is not going to dominate until his legs, footwork and explosion return. And Love is a long way from returning. So Brewer should have ample opportunity to show whether he belongs in this league.

Secondly, Brewer is so damn active, it does not matter who else the wolves have on the court. He will get his touches and chances to score. I think his rebounds and steals will be pretty consistent in every game. And with his wing span and his 6-8 frame, he should block some shots too.

Third, I think he has worked hard on his deficiencies and that his overall offensive game has improved from his first two years.

His shooting was off the other night. But it was close. Several of his misses from long range were in the net and came back out. He was not shooting air balls. It was just one of those nights. I think he might have mishandled a dunk opportunity as well. The great thing about him is that he does not mope or get down about what happened earlier in the game. He just keeps hustling.

It will be interesting to see what his line is tonight. But I think patience will be rewarded with Brewer this year.

Fourth - don't forget that he has a BIG incentive to do well this year. He's dangerously close to being just another draft bust after two years of no-shows. If he doesnt go out there and prove himself this year, he may not find a team that will want him as the Wolves have an option on him next year. It's make or break for him basically.

hmmm...i must admit i'm warming up to brewer again. loving his defensive stats. he could be a huge steal if he keeps getting steals and blocks like this.

I don't expect much from him offensively but if he looks like he's gonna average 3+ combined blks/stls I'll snatch him up. I don't agree with the optimism about his offense. Plenty of players are motivated to get new contracts. Most missed shots are close to going in. He's gonna be a low points and low fg% guy.

Did anyone really draft Corey Brewer for his offense? I'm a big believer in the guy, and drafted him this year, and if he does well on the offensive end, well, that's just icing on the cake. But I got him for the steals and blocks, along with some boards, assists, and points, but I wasn't expected anything above 8-10 points a game.

is he going to shoot FTs like Shaq ??

No.... He shot 80% his rookie year and 74 % last year in limited games. Hist last two years in College he was in the mid 70's range. He also doesn't shoot a lot of FT's either, so even if he shoots at worse 72% it's not gonna kill you like shaq does.

BTW, all the haters are nowhere to be found. last two games: 11 points 4 boards 2 steals 2 blocks and 19 points 7 boards, 2 steals

He's serviceable. I think he will be big against teams with bad defense like the suns.