Full Version: Antawn Jamison 2009-2010
He left the game with a sprained shoulder tonight and will not return.. thats never good.. I guess he tried to block Z or something, and he dropped his shoulder immediately when he hurt it..I didn't see the play, but this doesnt sound good..
Now that there is a thread on Jamison, what do you think he will average next year? If I draft CP3 in the 1st round (and punt blocks in a 12 team H2H 8 cat league [no TOs]), would it be considered a reach if I draft him with pick 2.12/3.1?
Antawn Jamison is talking optimistically about his sprained right shoulder injury, but he's not in the clear.
Jamison's collision with Zyrdunas Ilgauskas was not pretty, and it actually looks like a serious injury in replays. Jamison said his arm went numb, he lost sensation in his fingers and is now wearing a sling. He's ruled himself out for Monday, but is optimistic that he'll only be out a few days, despite this dark comment. "I won't say it popped out, but it did some moving," Jamison said. "I didn't hear anything pop. I just knew when it happened it was something serious."
sounds kinda serious.
Jamison's collision with Zyrdunas Ilgauskas was not pretty, and it actually looks like a serious injury in replays. Jamison said his arm went numb, he lost sensation in his fingers and is now wearing a sling. He's ruled himself out for Monday, but is optimistic that he'll only be out a few days, despite this dark comment. "I won't say it popped out, but it did some moving," Jamison said. "I didn't hear anything pop. I just knew when it happened it was something serious."
sounds kinda serious.
QUOTE (Ricky @ Oct 15 2009, 02:53 PM) 
Now that there is a thread on Jamison, what do you think he will average next year? If I draft CP3 in the 1st round (and punt blocks in a 12 team H2H 8 cat league [no TOs]), would it be considered a reach if I draft him with pick 2.12/3.1?
It wouldn't be a reach that's essentially his ADP. I've seen better value available around those picks in my drafts so far but there's nothing wrong with taking Jamison there, especially if you're punting blocks.
Wow, injuries already... damn this for our draft!
QUOTE (Ricky @ Oct 14 2009, 08:53 PM)
Now that there is a thread on Jamison, what do you think he will average next year? If I draft CP3 in the 1st round (and punt blocks in a 12 team H2H 8 cat league [no TOs]), would it be considered a reach if I draft him with pick 2.12/3.1?
I'd rank Jamison right around 25 in a 9-cat league, but I like him significantly less in 8-cat. That said, it would not be a horrible pick by any means, although there will likely be a few better options available. I see little reason to expect him to post numbers different form what he did last year, even with Arenas in town. This injury is obviously reason for concern, though.
cmon jamison, fall to me in the mid-3rd pleaseeee
Jamison hurt his shoulder last night. The talk here in Dc is that it could be serious. MRI forthcoming............
Here is what I read.
Let's hope it isn't that serious...
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Jamison left Wednesday's preseason game against Cleveland due to a sprained right shoulder and is scheduled for an MRI, the Washington Times reports. Jamison said he thought the injury was minor and he could return next week, but wait to see MRI results. His arm was in a sling after the game.
Let's hope it isn't that serious...
i'm going out on a limb and predicting that it is indeed serious.
and he'll be sidelined for atleast 2 months.
and he'll be sidelined for atleast 2 months.
Lets hope not. Jamision is one of the good guys in the nba and a popular figure here in Dc.
QUOTE (Thats Ridiculous @ Oct 15 2009, 04:18 PM)
i'm going out on a limb and predicting that it is indeed serious.
and he'll be sidelined for atleast 2 months.
and he'll be sidelined for atleast 2 months.
QUOTE (Code of Hammurabi @ Oct 15 2009, 02:03 PM)
Lets hope not. Jamision is one of the good guys in the nba and a popular figure here in Dc.
lucky for you you've got Brendan Haywood on your fantasy team.
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Jamison will miss at least the rest of the preseason after an MRI revealed a subluxation of his right shoulder, the Washington Post reports.
Jamison, who suffered the injury in Wednesday's preseason win over Cleveland, will be re-evaluated next week after the inflammation in his shoulder subsides. Look for Andray Blatche to get more run with Jamison out.
Jamison, who suffered the injury in Wednesday's preseason win over Cleveland, will be re-evaluated next week after the inflammation in his shoulder subsides. Look for Andray Blatche to get more run with Jamison out.
Uggh, well that tells you basically nothing. I get the feeling that you shouldn't expect much Jamison in November and that might be the best case scenario.
Thus begins the annual Blatche bandwagon.
this fantasy thing would be so much more fun if these guys would stop getting hurt. And if coaches would stop playing with lineups.
is jamison still a solid 3rd rounder lol
QUOTE (BigH @ Oct 15 2009, 05:15 PM)
Thus begins the annual Blatche bandwagon.
here we go again.
Damn you, Blatche...
QUOTE (fantasymecca @ Oct 16 2009, 12:00 AM)
is jamison still a solid 3rd rounder lol
Getting injured would normally hurt someone draft value....
he may need surgery!
QUOTE (JetCityPersian @ Oct 16 2009, 12:46 AM)
Damn you, Blatche...
and so it begins... cue the thread
the Blatche-wagon's a coming. All aboard! 
Everyone here in Dc is saying that the injury is very very serious..
According to the television broadcast team during Friday's Bulls game, Antawn Jamison's shoulder injury could require surgery, which would cause him to miss a large part of the upcoming season.
We're not sure of their source, but they said that Jamison's shoulder is closer to a full separation than a partial dislocation, and that he might have to undergo surgery. The Post reported earlier today that a league source said he will meet with a shoulder specialist to determine the prognosis. If he does need surgery, Andray Blatche could get a lot of early minutes for the Wizards.
According to the television broadcast team during Friday's Bulls game, Antawn Jamison's shoulder injury could require surgery, which would cause him to miss a large part of the upcoming season.
We're not sure of their source, but they said that Jamison's shoulder is closer to a full separation than a partial dislocation, and that he might have to undergo surgery. The Post reported earlier today that a league source said he will meet with a shoulder specialist to determine the prognosis. If he does need surgery, Andray Blatche could get a lot of early minutes for the Wizards.
QUOTE (JetCityPersian @ Oct 16 2009, 04:46 AM)
Damn you, Blatche...
I have some fond memories of the "Damn you Blatche" thread from last year
since jamison's recent injury, what round are people planning to grab him now? rotoworld indicated he is "progressing a lot". this could be the ultimate gamble since there's a chance he might still need surgery, which will sideline him for at least a few months, or he could be fine and play on opening day.
QUOTE (fantasymecca @ Oct 17 2009, 07:00 PM)
since jamison's recent injury, what round are people planning to grab him now? rotoworld indicated he is "progressing a lot". this could be the ultimate gamble since there's a chance he might still need surgery, which will sideline him for at least a few months, or he could be fine and play on opening day.
It's so hard to even project where to take an injured guy when you know how much time he's going to miss. This situation is a nightmare. If he doesn't need surgery and only misses a week or two of the regular season, his value shouldn't really be dropped any more than Rashard Lewis. If he ends up needing surgery and you take him in the first five rounds he could sink your team by the time he's available to help. I'd say given that the speculation is leaning towards saying it definitely doesn't appear minor, I wouldn't look at him before the 6th. You could steal a top 25 guy then or you could end up with a total void for the first few months. Definitely a huge gamble.
I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on him in the 5th round if he lasts that long... Amazingly he still went in the 3rd round in my league...
If its a separation, which looks like to be the case from the youtube clip, he may need surgery. But even without it he will be sore for months. It kinda looks like big Z's elbow or shoulder hits directly on Jamisons right collar bone, which happened to me snowboarding in march. I had a 2/3rd degree separation and needed a lot of rest. 4th degree is a full tear of the AC ligament, which is really ugly.... and most of the season would be gone I would guess.
Since Jamison is a finesse big man he may be able to play through some discomfort. Glad I only drafted him in 1 league tho.
Since Jamison is a finesse big man he may be able to play through some discomfort. Glad I only drafted him in 1 league tho.
Via Rotowire:
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Jamison (shoulder) has demonstrated more movement and flexibility with his injured right shoulder recently, the Washington Post reports.
Jamison remains out for the rest of the preseason after suffering a shoulder subluxation but he will travel with the team to Atlanta and Philadelphia. He will be evaluated again soon, but Wizards head coach Flip Saunders said Jamison has made a lot of progress. "It's encouraging. He's able to lift it up and move it and not have a lot of pain," Saunders said. "We'll see when he gets it looked at again. We just want to make sure we get it right the first time. We don't want to take a chance on things." It looking more and more likely that Jamison may be able to return for the beginning of the regular season.
Jamison remains out for the rest of the preseason after suffering a shoulder subluxation but he will travel with the team to Atlanta and Philadelphia. He will be evaluated again soon, but Wizards head coach Flip Saunders said Jamison has made a lot of progress. "It's encouraging. He's able to lift it up and move it and not have a lot of pain," Saunders said. "We'll see when he gets it looked at again. We just want to make sure we get it right the first time. We don't want to take a chance on things." It looking more and more likely that Jamison may be able to return for the beginning of the regular season.
Good to hear, sounds like Jamison may be ready for start of season.
QUOTE (Scott0326 @ Oct 19 2009, 10:49 AM)
Good to hear, sounds like Jamison may be ready for start of season.
Are we sure about that???
it's possible jamison might lose some time considering his recent injury, but the recent news doesn't seem like he'll need surgery though. for sure he'll need time to rest his shoulders, but the fact that he was able to move shoulders is very good news. however, if jamison's shoulders pops out again anytime during the regular season then he might need surgery then.
3rd round for frisky owners but i won't be surprised to see him in the 4th since most people will be scared of his injury.
3rd round for frisky owners but i won't be surprised to see him in the 4th since most people will be scared of his injury.
"Jamison to miss next three to five weeks. The Wizards, though, are optimistic that because Jamison's injury won't require surgery and since his shoulder has made considerable progress in the past week, it would only keep him out the first 10 or so games."
I doubt he'll be gone for that long since it doesn't sound serious, however, the Wiz are taking no gamble so it's only understandable that they'll sit him the first few games. 4-5 weeks is extreme but 3 (10 games) is fine. Good thing I picked him up in the 4th round.
I doubt he'll be gone for that long since it doesn't sound serious, however, the Wiz are taking no gamble so it's only understandable that they'll sit him the first few games. 4-5 weeks is extreme but 3 (10 games) is fine. Good thing I picked him up in the 4th round.
should owners of jamison scramble and pick up blatche? i dobut he'll start but his minutes should spike up if jamison is going to be out for 3-5 weeks.
i had a bad feeling about that shoulder injury. i hope he doesn't miss much more time. however, i am glad i didn't draft him
QUOTE (instant grits @ Oct 23 2009, 01:55 PM)
i had a bad feeling about that shoulder injury. i hope he doesn't miss much more time. however, i am glad i didn't draft him
10-15 games isn't that bad. if someone reached for him in the 3rd then that's their bad, but anything after that is a steal imo.
Wow, and here we thought he was doing so well, lifting, etc... Well now people in upcoming drafts might be able to steal him in rounds 4+. Of course shoulder injuries are always significant risks for future setbacks.
QUOTE (BadaBing @ Oct 23 2009, 12:04 PM)
Wow, and here we thought he was doing so well, lifting, etc... Well now people in upcoming drafts might be able to steal him in rounds 4+. Of course shoulder injuries are always significant risks for future setbacks.
Agreed, but would you still draft him at 4th or stay away all together?
QUOTE (BadaBing @ Oct 23 2009, 02:04 PM)
Wow, and here we thought he was doing so well, lifting, etc... Well now people in upcoming drafts might be able to steal him in rounds 4+. Of course shoulder injuries are always significant risks for future setbacks.
i'm sure it's more precautionary than anything. the wizards is making sure they make it to the playoffs. damn, owning josh howard and jamison is a pain right now lol.
QUOTE (RCJAY @ Oct 23 2009, 02:09 PM)
Agreed, but would you still draft him at 4th or stay away all together?
rashard was taken mid 3rd in my league and he's gone 10 games. jamison in the 4th is a steal. his shoulder doesn't seem serious but the wiz is taking no chances. jamison will easily be a early-mid 3rd rounder this year if he's gone 10-15 games.
5th round at best
I am in a 16 team league. I am sure the round number might be a bit different in my league???
QUOTE (fitz22415 @ Oct 23 2009, 02:14 PM)
5th round at best
no way he's gonna last all the way in the 5th. i took him 7th pick in the 4th round.
QUOTE (fantasymecca @ Oct 23 2009, 02:28 PM)
no way he's gonna last all the way in the 5th. i took him 7th pick in the 4th round.
i did not say he would last that long
i said i would not pick him before the 5th round
is that sam perkins on your team?
Shoulder injuries can linger. I am concerned. I would target Jamison in the 5th, but I would also make sure I targeted Blatche as a handcuff/insurance.
QUOTE (fitz22415 @ Oct 23 2009, 03:52 PM)
i did not say he would last that long
i said i would not pick him before the 5th round
is that sam perkins on your team?
i said i would not pick him before the 5th round
is that sam perkins on your team?
definitely sam perkins
QUOTE (Code of Hammurabi @ Oct 23 2009, 04:02 PM)
Shoulder injuries can linger. I am concerned. I would target Jamison in the 5th, but I would also make sure I targeted Blatche as a handcuff/insurance.
i'm sure jamison is fine. 8-13 games isn't that bad especially since the Wiz is taking their time on him. the fact that jamison was working out indicates his shoulder is capable of contact. i'm sure his shoulders will be sore on certain days though. i rather have someone else instead of blatche. i was going to pick him up as a replacement but still think his defensive is very suspect. the fact that saunders wants to split his time with oberto means something. if he couldn't flourish under eddie jordan i can't see him making noise under flip saunders.
Mmm, while I'd hate to favor the side of injury this actually makes him a hot commodity in a lot of fantasy drafts. He and Rashard Lewis could end up being 4th-5th round steals this season because of them missing 15-20% of their season.
I'd take Jamison in the 5th as when healthy he's about as good as a SF/PF as they come for ROTO.
I'd take Jamison in the 5th as when healthy he's about as good as a SF/PF as they come for ROTO.
Any Washington natives out there with a possible Jamison progress update? It's been about a week since the last news on him...
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