he was pretty much 20/5/5
he goes to orlando to replace hedo, wh was avging 6 assists per game. granted with jameer there more, assists may stay 4.5-5, but with his role as the driver to the basket, he could get lots of FT attempts and spot up on the 3 in that orlando offense

i say the same, but less points. age might become a factor

Yea Vince isn't getting any younger, but that said, he should theoretically get the most open looks that he's ever had in his career with Dwight Howard drawing so much attention down low. I think if Vince still has got gas left in the tank, he could have himself a great year. Hopefully he lasts 80+ games though- the hallmark of any great fantasy basketball player.

less pts, better %

Why would he avg less points? Hedo put up 19/5/5 two years ago, and put up 17/5/5 last yr. Vince Carter is a much more balanced scorer than Hedo. Vince carter avg 21/5/5 last yr being double teamed and triple teamed on that piece of crap nets team. I think he will score at least that this yr when he isn't doubled.

Carter should have even more value than last year. His numbers will be very similar except he'll probably average 1 or 1 and 1/2 points less, but his TOs and %s should get better.

maybe because last year he was playing with D.Harris, a rookie center and 3/4 other scrubs

this year he's playing with Howard, Rashard, Nelson and quality players as Pietrus or Barnes

Hedo played with Howard, Rashard, Nelson and quality players and put up those numbers. You telling me Hedo is better than Vince Carter?

Just because you play with better players, it don't mean your statistics will go higher. If your the go to guy on your own team along with scrubs, you're going to score more. If you play with quality players like superman, rashard, nelson etc,, you're going to get less shots.

carter is one of the most unselfish players in the league
unfortunately he's been forced to carry the entire offensive load every single year. now with howard, nelson, and lewis he may not score as much but he will be much more efficient and his team will win more games.

exactly

like Ray Allen when he went to Boston

There is a difference with Ray allen's situation and Vince Carters. Don't get it wrong here. Their situation is totally different. While Ray ray is a great player, he went into that team as the #3 option behind KG and PP. Also if you watch Orlando play, a lot of the plays that they ran, was done through Hedo. Hedo would penetrate and kick out to Shard or Nelson or set up big boy Dwight. I don't think this will change when VC goes in there. And VC will do it better than Hedo. And VC is not going into Orlando as the 4th option. He will be the 2nd option behind Howard. And in crunch time, maybe even 1st option. He will get a lot of good looks on the Magic. His FG% will go up, TO will go down. Stats stay the same. Stan Vangundy's been saying he wants the old VC back, he wants VC to put up 24-25pts from back in the days. He wants the aggressive VC. While I don't see VC putting up 24-25, I'm sure VC will put up 20.

you also have to factor in the possiblity of orlando dominating games. i am sure vangundy will rest his starters if they are blowing out teams.

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I watched a ton of Magic games last year (at one point in the season I had Dwight, Rashard and Hedo on my team) and they do not take their starters off. A few times SVG was actually criticized for running up the score because his starters remained on the court.


Anyways, I have followed VC closely while he is in the NBA. His problem has always been motivation, i don't see it being a problem this year. I see him having a great fantasy year - better than last year.

Which means not only VC stats would hurt but everyone on the lakers, Cavs, Spurs and all those good teams right?? LOL!

I actaully see Carter having a great year, he is in a high scoring team now and shooters all around. higher scoring avg and assists this year

Vince looked amazing last night.
Him and Hedo do play similar type of roles. but Vince is more clutch than Hedo. and he draws more attention from defenses than Hedo.
Plus, Vince is an Orlando native. it's gonna be like Billups playing for his hometown Denver. He'll be in a very positive mind-set. I see good things from Vince this year.

it's gonna be a battle between the 3 Eastern Conference powerhouses: Magic, Cavs, Celtics. I don't know who is gonna come out of that one.

but the Lakers will be waiting.

I agree a lot with what you said here. Vince is more likely the 2nd option and at worst the 3rd option, maybe actually the first option if you think about it. If Howard can't shoot free throws, then why the hell would you give him the ball at the end of a close game unless he is most likely going to catch and score easily. If he has his back to the basket then the other team is most likely to foul him. Vince is a good free throw shooter and is probably going to be handling the ball a lot at the end like Hedo did. I actually think VC may actually have one of his better years in a long time just because he's their best all around player and he has a better supporting cast than he's ever been with that it will be more easier on him physically giving him a little extra. Yes he's older but he's more wise now. The window is closing, so he's got to have a little more desire and this is his chance.

Looked like a high ankle sprain. Please don't be hurt, Vince.

Feel bad for you Carter owners, he was looking great so far this season. Let's hope it's not too bad.

For fantasy purposes though, is Pietrus the obvious benefactor of this injury?

ughhhhhhhhhhhh

Hard to say. Matt Barnes got 14 minutes to Pietrus's 9 in the 1st half, so Barnes would be worth a look. Reddick would be see a couple more minutes as well if Vince misses time, but I would assume the Magic would go to a committee at SG since they have three guys (Pietrus, Barnes, Reddick) that they feel comfortable giving minutes to.

They're officially calling it a sprained ankle and his return is questionable.

i just added ryan anderson faster than you can imagine. with the magic you can't think in terms of traditional positions because they play such a perimeter based offense. vince carter being out eliminates another perimeter scorer and gives a guy like anderson a big boost. pietrus would be the secondary guy i would add.

Yea, Anderson is a good add right now. At least for the next handful of games or so.

He's injured and won't play today's game against Toronto according to The Orlando Sentinel , and I guess he's really doubtful for the Detroit game on Tuesday.

I own him but I'm scared about the "he can't move from side to side" part. Please don't be a hip injury too.

Does anyone have an update on Vince?

Carter remains a game-time decision

I'm still benching him even if he gets the green light to play later tonight... I'm not in the mood for what would most like be lowly numbers from an injured star...

I wouldn't bench him if he starting, but that just me.

I wouldn't bench him either. The injury is very minor and won't affect his game a whole lot..but theb I don't wanna be dead wrong.. do what you like.

why is he on the bench during crunch time?

The 3 treys were nice but 6-16 leaves me feeling good that I benched him... However, I will start him against Phoenix tomorow... I hope I can cash in on the porous defense of J-Rich and Nash... Nelson burned me...

He may not even play. He pulled himself out of the game after he retweaked his ankle.

Damnit. Figured that was why he disappeared.

I haven't read anything about "retweaking"—just that he couldn't drive to the hoop and decided to sit out the fourth. He's another game-time decision tomorrow.

Just traded VC for Ray Allen. Hopefully I did the right thing.

Sorry, I read what Rotoworld put. They said "Vince Carter tweaked his recently sprained left ankle on Tuesday and will be a game-time decision against the Suns on Wednesday." Maybe that's their opinion but what does it matter. He's hurting. It's all the same. In regards to that trade for Allen, I don't know. I think VC is worth more. He's hurt but he ain't done.

well this can't be good news... Its never nice when a player "re-tweaks" his injury...

Any Orlando fans in the house? explanations as to why Vince's dimes are considerably down? I know the scoring will come but if he can't dish out 1 dime playing with the best center in the league and without the starting PG the lineup I'm getting worried. I don't want to pass judgment because I haven't caught a magic game.

Great question. I would love to hear some analysis on the lack of dimes, as well. I thought he would easily average five per contest this year. Early signs seem to suggest that may have been wishful thinking on my part.

I'm wondering myself about the assists, but he may still be learning this team. Lewis just came back so he should get some easy ones there. He's shooting quite a bit of threes this year, so it won't be as easy to get assists standing out there. Hopefully he starts going to the hoop a little more and/or cuts without the ball and get some easy assists. It's still a long way to go and he may not be 100% yet. Some of these blowouts aren't helping when they sit him like that.

Hmm, just checked the box score. Looks like Rashard barely missed a triple-double tonight. Maybe that had something to do with it ...

gotta say, i love the Vince Carter & Rashard Lewis duo. plus Dwight Howard.
awesome trio right there.