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GreenGold74
So I've noticed not much discussion by experts nor people here in the forums about the guy. He slipped as low as the 6th round in the few drafts I've been involved with. Recovering from some serious knee injuries and durability has burnt alot of owners the last couple seasons. Preseason numbers all look very positive and someone who could easily put up 3rd and 4th round numbers. No indication of any soreness. People liking the guy for a big comeback year?
kimoti
I do. He has never been injury prone. He had bad luck last year with them knees. He has no negatives in his stats. Even his FG% is pretty good for a guy that shoots so much.
7331T
Many avoid him unless they need 3s. He's a guy who can light it up for 20 a night with 2 3s a game but not much else. His FT percentage is decent at 81 for a SG and he had decent FG %. Aside from that, he's useless in other categories.
uri_76
he always has been and always will be fantasy fools gold. much like zack randolph
Mr. BB
I dont agree, i think he is not that bad. If you get him round 5 in deeper leagues. What do you expekt from guys in the mid rounds? 20+ points are not that often to find in that rounds as well as good pct% with 2 3s per game. He also gets 1 Steal and has around 3 Assists plus low TOs (at least last year). And with the team they have in Wauke i think he even could get 25 Points a game. And the health is a problem for many other "Fantasy Gold" Guys too. G-Wall, Kevin Martin, Hedo, Wade, Granger, Bosh etc.

Perhaps whats so great about Brandon Roy? I dont see that much in him, i would never pick him early. Than i pick a solid big and a guy like Reed later who brings almost the same as roy (just 2 Assist and 2 Rebounds less for Redd). So Redd is underrated in my opinion.
Daviddm23
Forget drafting this guy, even Westbrook a better pick then him. Redd has proven from time to time that he can't stay healthy, I'll prefer drafting B. Griffin, A. Randolph, Mo, Mayo over this guy.

"FOOLS GOLD!!!!!" blink.gif
Denbo32
I pretty much draft Redd in almost every league I'm in. Redd in the 6th round I feel is pretty good value. He may get hurt again who knows, but he knows how to score, and he hits 3's in bunches. Mil pretty much unloaded every other scoring threat. Redd could be a top 5 scorer in the league IF he is healthy. Health is a major worry.
rico381
He's missed ten games or less in five or his past seven seasons. Don't get overzealous with the 'injury-prone' label just because he suffered one injury.
GreenGold74
To me the injury last year really bumped down his ADP to a spot where he's an absolute bargain. How many 24-25 PPG guys you going to find in the 5th-6th rounds? To me Kevin Martin is a much bigger injury risk than Redd who is taken on average 25 picks higher in the average league. And they put up mostly the same numbers. If you draft correctly early you can build around a pure scorer and shooter like this and he's a big help to any roto and H2H team. I just would be somewhat concerned because of their depleted talent now that he gets doubled alot and his FG% might possibly take a hit. He's 30 now. But hell Ray Allen is a few years older and still can shoot lights out. This is a high volume shooter that actually puts the ball in the hole more times than not. I like his draft value if you are lucky enough to get him in the early middle rounds.
kimoti
We saw him in the Olympics last year. He was Team USA's best shooter.
AssMan
Call me crazy, but I'd rather roll with Ben or Eric Gordon as my SG. Redd has has burned me twice two out of the past three seasons. He could very well stay healthy and post a nice line this year, but his lack of dedication is a concern. He's a great shooter when he's playing for a medal but obviously takes nights off when he's suiting up for a terrible Milwaukee team. I'd just look elsewhere for comparable players with less question marks, that's all.
kimoti
I'd rather those guys too. they all play very similar but the thing is that they're getting drafted way..way before him. He has more upside than them both in any given season but he's going too late in drafts. I call it a steal!.
andychung316
Redd is a good player don't get me wrong but at round 5/6 you can get similar production out of Jason Terry or Eric Gordon to which Gordon has big upside. If you need some 3's and scoring then Redds your guy but if you to add some steals to the mix, I'd go with the two I mentioned.
Dr. Whom
Redd is always hurt. I would rather have Eric Gordon or Terry a round later
Obangajanga
I agree and Terry is very consistent player. Other then last year, he's pretty much going to play 78-80 games, give you nice percentages, 2 3s and a steal a game.

And Gordon could provide nice scoring this year if I'm not mistaking.
Mr. BB
Is Redd worth it to start him in Fantasy today? Or is he getting limited minutes? Have other options and i am not sure if i let him start today.
Warno
QUOTE (Mr. BB @ Oct 30 2009, 05:48 PM) *
Is Redd worth it to start him in Fantasy today? Or is he getting limited minutes? Have other options and i am not sure if i let him start today.


I don't see why he would be limited, from what I have read he is feeling great.

He also played 37 minutes in his last preseason game - I would start him.
Denbo32
Redd is a must start if you drafted him. You need to get every game in before he gets hurt, because he will be beastly.
Denbo32
3 steals was a nice suprise today. shooting % and TO weren't great but it not a bad start.
kimoti
he also had 6 boards.
nicelikeice75
can we change the title of this thread to "...So Was Redd" just so we can have a "Brooks Was Here" and "So Was Red" threads?

Thats Ridiculous
i have to admit. he's looking better than i had initially expected.
i thought he was gonna suck the majority of this season, because the surgery he had was as recent as just over the summer. didn't think there was enough time for his knee to heal.
dude doesn't even wear a knee brace.
he's a huge steal in my opinion.
(if he's able to keep this up)
Sonny_D
So what happened, did he just suck tonight or did he "tweak" something that he only got 23 minutes. Judging his 2-8 shooting night I hope it's the former.
Slone
QUOTE (Sonny_D @ Oct 31 2009, 10:38 PM) *
So what happened, did he just suck tonight or did he "tweak" something that he only got 23 minutes. Judging his 2-8 shooting night I hope it's the former.

He hurt his knee going for an uncontested dunk. He's done similar things before. I don't expect much from him this year, as a Bucks fan I hope we trade him for expirings and just let Meeks play.
GreenGold74
If that's true that might be good news. Was looking for a spot to play Brandon Jennings. But I do hope its not serious. He's a great scorer when he's on.
Slone
Apparently he just tweaked it and didn't want to take any chances after his knee injury last year. He should be good to go, for now.
Thats Ridiculous
Michael Redd will be shut down for the next two weeks due to pain in his surgically repaired left knee.

Redd underwent ACL surgery last year and has quickly become one of the most injury prone players in the league. Which is why we advised letting someone else deal with him this year. Charlie Bell and rookie Jodie Meeks will see an increased role, but the Bucks aren't exactly a deep team, so Redd's production is going to be tough to make up. Carlos Delfino, who is already starting, should also see some extra minutes.


see this is exactly the type of stuff i had projected for him this season.
Code of Hammurabi
Me and you both old friend. I could see a scenario where he plays only 50 games or so, with constant bouts with that knee. Jennings will score more, though the assists could be light....

QUOTE (Thats Ridiculous @ Nov 2 2009, 01:02 PM) *
Michael Redd will be shut down for the next two weeks due to pain in his surgically repaired left knee.

Redd underwent ACL surgery last year and has quickly become one of the most injury prone players in the league. Which is why we advised letting someone else deal with him this year. Charlie Bell and rookie Jodie Meeks will see an increased role, but the Bucks aren't exactly a deep team, so Redd's production is going to be tough to make up. Carlos Delfino, who is already starting, should also see some extra minutes.


see this is exactly the type of stuff i had projected for him this season.
BattleAngel
QUOTE (Thats Ridiculous @ Nov 2 2009, 02:02 PM) *
Michael Redd will be shut down for the next two weeks due to pain in his surgically repaired left knee.

Redd underwent ACL surgery last year and has quickly become one of the most injury prone players in the league. Which is why we advised letting someone else deal with him this year. Charlie Bell and rookie Jodie Meeks will see an increased role, but the Bucks aren't exactly a deep team, so Redd's production is going to be tough to make up. Carlos Delfino, who is already starting, should also see some extra minutes.


see this is exactly the type of stuff i had projected for him this season.


Why did I draft Redd?!
Denbo32
Sigh I hate you Redd. I expected this.... I just didn't expect it 2 games into the season....
Code of Hammurabi
Same reason why we draft people like Larry Johnson and Willie Parker in Football. We actually have vivid memories of when they were studs and anchored our fantasy teams.......

QUOTE (BattleAngel @ Nov 2 2009, 01:29 PM) *
Why did I draft Redd?!
FantasyEmpire
Hello Jennings
Hello Warrick
Thats Ridiculous
QUOTE (Code of Hammurabi @ Nov 2 2009, 11:28 AM) *
Me and you both old friend. I could see a scenario where he plays only 50 games or so, with constant bouts with that knee. Jennings will score more, though the assists could be light....

i gotta give you credit for picking up Brandon Jennings. despite dropping Lou Williams.
but now it looks like Jennings is gonna be huge this year with Redd hurting. nice.
woozy
is it dumb to drop redd in a 12 team league? or should we wait and hope for the best?
Code of Hammurabi
Wasnt an easy decision at all. I struggled with it for almost 30 min. Both are going to be top 100 players this year. I have enough scoring on my team but really really need help with steals. Jennings has the potential to be elite (1.5 plus) in that cat. In addition he should have ample opportunities to score. He also should be better in the assist category for the long haul. Honestly I would rather have both but I wasnt prepared to drop Haywood and try to get by with 2 Centers for the season. That would be risky and foolish.......

QUOTE (Thats Ridiculous @ Nov 2 2009, 01:48 PM) *
i gotta give you credit for picking up Brandon Jennings. despite dropping Lou Williams.
but now it looks like Jennings is gonna be huge this year with Redd hurting. nice.
Code of Hammurabi
I wouldnt drop Redd just yet.
JetCityPersian
We all knew this would happen, just not so soon. There's about a 5% chance that Redd is playing in March and April. This is why we're all so excited about Jennings and Evans. Both of those guys could be "the man" in the H2H playoffs, with a slate of games that don't matter to either team. Guys like that going nuts in games that have no defense are what make for fantasy championship routs.
Code of Hammurabi
Its amazing that the bucks have $100,000,000 tied up in 2 major injury prone players in Bogut and Redd. That will really set your franchise back..........
woozy
according to the buck's twitter hes out w/ a strained left patella tendon, he will be re-evaluated in 2 weeks. i dont like the re-evaluated in 2 weeks part and personally i think hes just going to be out for the rest of the season. he shouldnt have rushed back so soon.
Code of Hammurabi
You cant be so sure about that. I would wait it out a couple of weeks and see how things develop. The last thing you want to do is drop and have him put in work on someone else's team because you rushed to judgment. Its just prudent to wait it out in my opinion.

QUOTE (woozy @ Nov 2 2009, 02:46 PM) *
according to the buck's twitter hes out w/ a strained left patella tendon, he will be re-evaluated in 2 weeks. i dont like the re-evaluated in 2 weeks part and personally i think hes just going to be out for the rest of the season. he shouldnt have rushed back so soon.
Thats Ridiculous
we might have to keep an eye on Carlos Delfino.
and maybe even Charlie Bell. but i have a feeling Carlos Delfino will step it up in place of Redd.
markdash
QUOTE (Thats Ridiculous @ Nov 2 2009, 11:59 AM) *
we might have to keep an eye on Carlos Delfino.
and maybe even Charlie Bell. but i have a feeling Carlos Delfino will step it up in place of Redd.


I looked at Bell's numbers last year when Redd was out, and they were pretty underwhelming. He must be pretty terrible!

He's available in a deep league I'm in, and I can't bring myself to cut Raja Bell, Drew Gooden or Dahntay Jones for him. That's saying something.
woozy
QUOTE
You cant be so sure about that. I would wait it out a couple of weeks and see how things develop. The last thing you want to do is drop and have him put in work on someone else's team because you rushed to judgment. Its just prudent to wait it out in my opinion.


you are right, im not sure and i am waiting and hope he will return soon. however i am not expecting him to be back soon. hopefully i will be eating crow cuz i can sure use his scoring
Slone
QUOTE (woozy @ Nov 2 2009, 03:03 PM) *
you are right, im not sure and i am waiting and hope he will return soon. however i am not expecting him to be back soon. hopefully i will be eating crow cuz i can sure use his scoring


Delfino looks pretty bad. Charlie Bell has looked good this year, a lot better than he was last year when he was dealing with nagging injuries, I imagine he'll absorb some of Redd's production. Meeks should also get a chance off the bench and he is a deadly shooter. I doubt Meeks will get enough time to be fantasy relevant though.
Code of Hammurabi
The biggest obvious beneficiaries are Jennings, Warrick and Bogut if he can stay healthy and round into shape...
Thats Ridiculous
QUOTE (markdash @ Nov 2 2009, 01:00 PM) *
I looked at Bell's numbers last year when Redd was out, and they were pretty underwhelming. He must be pretty terrible!

He's available in a deep league I'm in, and I can't bring myself to cut Raja Bell, Drew Gooden or Dahntay Jones for him. That's saying something.

last year the Bucks had a few more players to pickup the slack when Redd was out. Richard Jefferson and Charlie V and Ramon Sessions.

ofcourse it's not a guarantee that Charlie Bell will step up in Redd's absence, but this year's depleted Bucks team needs some Guard to step up. the best 2 options would be Bell and Delfino.
but the Bucks will definitely rely heavily upon Jennings and Warrick. I wouldn't count on Bogut too much on the offensive end. he's still nursing his own injury(spine surgery).
AssMan
Can't we infer from Delfino's career averages, skill set and place in the starting rotation that he should be a nice source of 3's and steals for at least the next two weeks? Granted his first game was pretty meh, but you have to think he'll start to produce serviceable lines while playing starter's minutes without Redd in the lineup.
GreenGold74
I own Jennings and was trying to talk myself into putting him in the lineup. This injury works for me. Wasn't a fan of how Redd was shooting early this season anyway.
TheBoondocks
i just got a trade accepted for Trevor Ariza... bye Redd!!

I kinda laughed because the owner doesn't know Redd is injured
Code of Hammurabi
Kinda lame and unethical on your part

QUOTE (TheBoondocks @ Nov 2 2009, 04:52 PM) *
i just got a trade accepted for Trevor Ariza... bye Redd!!

I kinda laughed because the owner doesn't know Redd is injured
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