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ponchsox
21/15, 9-11 from the charity stripe, 3 blocks. Any believers?
teamshameless
Not sure I think this is a regular line, but yes, I've been high on him this year.
AirForceOne
The lone bright spot on one hot mess of a team.
Just remember Kwame and Old Ben were defending him most of the game.
Max Rockatansky
his only threat for PT is Thabeet

so yes, he's for real
NUPE_1911
I like Marc and have had him targetted for my draft the last few weeks. I dont think he will do 21 and 15 for the year though. I am thinking more like 15ish and 10ish for the year with 1.5ish blocks and good %'s.

Sherlock
yeah, he should be solid all season.
fantasymecca
this has more to do with the guys guarding gasol, then gasol this being great in basketball. check the front line of the pistons, villa, ben wallace, chris wilcox, and kwame brown. none of the players i just mentioned are great or even solid defenders. ben wallace was but that was ages ago.
snarf snarf
I guess I shouldn't have dropped him for Hibbert huh? angry.gif
ponchsox
I'm just wondering if Gasol's an upgrade over Scola or Noah...I need blocks desperately.
FantasyEmpire
No Iverson
Bad Mayo

The Pistons hasn't a good frontcourt this year. For the most nights to many Scorers (Zach, The Answer, Gay, Mayo) in Memphis. Gasol did have only defense stats (boards, blocks). 12 PPG, 8 RPG, 2 BPG is real for him.
wilwin
Last year he opened the season 12/12 and also had a 27/14 line against the Warriors. Gasol is decent, however I think he has a very low ceiling. I see the same numbers - 12/8. There are too many ball hogs on the team for him to post 15+/10.
FantasyEmpire
Zach an Iverson destroy the rest.

Think on Zach in Portland, in NY and in LA. He destroy Lee's value in NY, every value in Portland and the value of Kaman, Gordon, Thornton in LA.

The same story for Iverson in Philly or Denver.
kimoti
He's a better than average C.
GreenGold74
For whatever its worth Gasol supposedly is being coached this year by Kareem after having coached Bynum for a few years. Wouldn't shock me if he works some magic and gets the most out of Gasol. Tonight won't be a norm but he does have double-double potential if he is allowed to play that many minutes.
Max Rockatansky
C Marc Gasol got off to a fast start, with 21 points and 15 rebounds against the Pistons. Gasol, who lost 40 pounds in the off-season, looked fresh from start to finish. But coach Lionel Hollins wasn't impressed. "It's not all about scoring," Hollins said. "He (Gasol) didn't guard anybody, he didn't block any shots."
(Yahoo! Sports)


according to the box score he blocked 3 shots

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BattleAngel
QUOTE (Max Rockatansky @ Oct 29 2009, 09:17 AM) *
C Marc Gasol got off to a fast start, with 21 points and 15 rebounds against the Pistons. Gasol, who lost 40 pounds in the off-season, looked fresh from start to finish. But coach Lionel Hollins wasn't impressed. "It's not all about scoring," Hollins said. "He (Gasol) didn't guard anybody, he didn't block any shots."
(Yahoo! Sports)


according to the box score he blocked 3 shots

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Maybe the coach was referring to Zach Randolph... tongue.gif
BattleAngel
QUOTE (FantasyEmpire @ Oct 28 2009, 10:41 PM) *
No Iverson
Bad Mayo

The Pistons hasn't a good frontcourt this year. For the most nights to many Scorers (Zach, The Answer, Gay, Mayo) in Memphis. Gasol did have only defense stats (boards, blocks). 12 PPG, 8 RPG, 2 BPG is real for him.


I think iverson and mayo and gay and zach shooting is good for Gasol. He'll end up getting all the Boards from these inefficient scorers and get plenty of put back dunks, easy layups or trips to the stripe for high % FT. Either way, his Boards should stay high, and he'll get plenty of points so long as he stays active. And with him losing so much weight, it seems that's his goal.
NUPE_1911
QUOTE (BattleAngel @ Oct 29 2009, 09:46 AM) *
I think iverson and mayo and gay and zach shooting is good for Gasol. He'll end up getting all the Boards from these inefficient scorers and get plenty of put back dunks, easy layups or trips to the stripe for high % FT. Either way, his Boards should stay high, and he'll get plenty of points so long as he stays active. And with him losing so much weight, it seems that's his goal.



This is what I was thinking when i drafted him.
Denbo32
QUOTE (BattleAngel @ Oct 29 2009, 09:46 AM) *
I think iverson and mayo and gay and zach shooting is good for Gasol. He'll end up getting all the Boards from these inefficient scorers and get plenty of put back dunks, easy layups or trips to the stripe for high % FT. Either way, his Boards should stay high, and he'll get plenty of points so long as he stays active. And with him losing so much weight, it seems that's his goal.


Zach isn't that bad of a shooter, either is Gay really.
bloodface
QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Oct 29 2009, 10:15 AM) *
Zach isn't that bad of a shooter, either is Gay really.


This isn't necessarily relevant, unless all of a sudden they turn in 75% FG shooters. Fact of the matter is that great shooters still miss half of their shots. Last night the two of them combined went 13 for 25. There's 12 boards to have there. However, Mayo and Iverson are low % shooters, as evidenced by Mayo's 2-12 night. That's another ten boards to have. Those opportunities are going to be there for Gasol night in, and night out.
bloodface
QUOTE (Max Rockatansky @ Oct 29 2009, 08:17 AM) *
C Marc Gasol got off to a fast start, with 21 points and 15 rebounds against the Pistons. Gasol, who lost 40 pounds in the off-season, looked fresh from start to finish. But coach Lionel Hollins wasn't impressed. "It's not all about scoring," Hollins said. "He (Gasol) didn't guard anybody, he didn't block any shots."
(Yahoo! Sports)


according to the box score he blocked 3 shots

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This is an absolutely confounding statement, seeing as the Detroit Cs and PFs did absolutely nothing in that game. Look at the boxscore! If he means showing on pick and rolls, or something, ok, but I hardly see how Richard Hamilton's line has any indication on Gasol having a subpar defensive performance. Someone might want to look at a few guards to find blame. Additionally, anyone notice the whopping 10 assists for the Griz team in total for the evening? I did draft Conley, because I assumed that someone had to get those shooters the ball to score, and I am chalking this game up to Conley's ankle injury (I was not able to catch the game, so I didn't get to see how he played), but if the team is not distributing the ball amongst themselves, it's going to be a long year for Conley. I'd venture to say that Hollins needs to find himself a big mirror and first look at himself in terms of getting this team to insert some fluidity on their offensive end. Me-First-style ball tends to result in some pretty terrible defense when not shooting. Let Conley run the offense.
The King Maker
I really like Gasol this year, as I thought he was somewhat undervalued in drafts. Obviously off to a nice start, and his second half last year had some fine games as well.
Thats Ridiculous
Marc Gasol looks great. he lost a lot of weight. he's fit, he's light, he's quick.
and ofcourse he's more experienced this year.
the dude towers over everyone.
an upgraded hi-tec Tank ready for battle.

he's a steal.
ponchsox
Another nice game:

6/8 7/7 19/7 2 assists 3 steals 1 block
xrobx
so happy to have him on my squad. he's playing just like pau
xrobx
without the foul trouble would have been even better
fantasymecca
this guy has fluked on me twice already. once with a 3 block party against detroit, and now 3 steals against a soft team like toronto.
xrobx
the wild grizzly is no fluke
snipedn40
7-7 free throw is definitely a fluke. The five turnovers are not.

Trust me I owned this guy all of last year, and while the FG% and the PTS/REB and BLK/STL are nice, his FT% and turnovers will piss you off to no end.

He's one of those players who isn't bad enough to drop, but isn't good enough to where you always want him on your team. I fixed this problem by trading him last year haha.

On the other hand, he could be proving me wrong but I highly doubt it.
xrobx
QUOTE (snipedn40 @ Oct 31 2009, 01:23 AM) *
7-7 free throw is definitely a fluke. The five turnovers are not.

Trust me I owned this guy all of last year, and while the FG% and the PTS/REB and BLK/STL are nice, his FT% and turnovers will piss you off to no end.

He's one of those players who isn't bad enough to drop, but isn't good enough to where you always want him on your team. I fixed this problem by trading him last year haha.

On the other hand, he could be proving me wrong but I highly doubt it.


he was 9/11 from the line in the first game. he can shoot. maybe he's been practicing.
DesignatedHitter
QUOTE (xrobx @ Oct 30 2009, 10:25 PM) *
he was 9/11 from the line in the first game. he can shoot. maybe he's been practicing.


I've heard that helps.
William Ayers
told my buddy to draft him in the last round right before me.. didnt expect him to play this well mellow.gif
snipedn40
QUOTE (xrobx @ Oct 31 2009, 12:25 AM) *
he was 9/11 from the line in the first game. he can shoot. maybe he's been practicing.


Well like I said if he continues to shoot this well from the line, then he will be a steal this year. I'm most definitely betting against it though.
NUPE_1911
Well, Gasol as a rookie nearly posted a double double so an improvement is expected in hs second year in the league. I just did not expect this much of an improvement. He has totally surpassed my expectations these first two games.
NUPE_1911
Gasol is at it again...
GreenGold74
He has an absolutely delicous week coming up. At Sacramento and Golden State to start. Then the LA teams next weekend. This could be a monster week for him the way he's playing. And probably after this week you could sell him extremely high at that point.
FantasyEmpire
Iverson would play on Monday. I'm surprise if Gasol score more than 15 point next week and 12 long-time, if Iverson play.
xrobx
BEAST.
GreenGold74
QUOTE (FantasyEmpire @ Nov 1 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Iverson would play on Monday. I'm surprise if Gasol score more than 15 point next week and 12 long-time, if Iverson play.



That may be true to a small degree long term. But have you seen Sacramento and Golden State. Those are two guaranteed 20/10 with blocks and steals Iverson or no Iverson. When they are playing normal teams again we'll see. But I don't see the minutes going down no matter what.
ponchsox
So knock him down a few points but he is still playing great, I'll take it for a ww pickup. He could easily be a top 10 center this year.
nomidi
Because he will continue to shoot 70% from the field...

He's still looking like a great late round pick, the boards and blocks should be there all season.
FantasyEmpire
QUOTE (ponchsox @ Nov 1 2009, 09:19 PM) *
So knock him down a few points but he is still playing great, I'll take it for a ww pickup. He could easily be a top 10 center this year.


With Randolph and Iverson all other players sucks in this team. I hate Memphis as a fantasy-owner this year and ignore Gasol, Gay and Mayo this year in my leagues. If Zach are hot, and its coming, you see Boards and Blocks from Gasol and nothing more.

Gasol is sell high at the moment, but i don't see him as a Top10 Center(Big Al,Okur,Amare, CB, Boozer,Bargnani, Horford, his brother Pau, Superman, Spencer Hawes if he take minutes, Nene)
NUPE_1911
QUOTE (nomidi @ Nov 1 2009, 09:27 PM) *
Because he will continue to shoot 70% from the field...

He's still looking like a great late round pick, the boards and blocks should be there all season.



Dont think anyone said he'd shoot 70% all season. I do believe a double double with good %'s (over 50%) is doable. Of course, I wont complain if he puts up Pau like numbers for the remainder of the year.
xrobx
15 pts 7 rebs 4 assists, at the half... he might f around and get a triple double, haha
FantasyEmpire
Now he is cold
GreenGold74
Cold? He's still 6-7. Looks like either he got in foul trouble or they are getting points somewhere else if anything.


Yeah I took a look and he had 4 fouls early in the 3rd so he sat. He'll be back in the 4th I am sure and his numbers will perk up and finish with a double double more than likely. Just hope he can get a couple blocks.
The Czar
QUOTE (Thats Ridiculous @ Oct 29 2009, 06:42 PM) *
Marc Gasol looks great. he lost a lot of weight. he's fit, he's light, he's quick.
and ofcourse he's more experienced this year.
the dude towers over everyone.
an upgraded hi-tec Tank ready for battle.

he's a steal.


I wish I would have seen him in the preseason. It's amazing how different he looks. He looks like a bigger Pau now instead of a Spanish version of Big Country. I was impressed by how much his body has changed. He must have been totally dedicated in the offseason to improve his conditioning to where it is now. I always liked his physical play and thought he could be a decent ballplayer if he got in shape. Now he is. I wonder if he can eventually become better than Pau. Pau always shies away from contact and I always thought he was a little soft. Marc seems to like to go at it a little more. If he can combine that with the same skill set as big brother, he is going to be an absolute monster.
GreenGold74
Yeah I can't wait to watch him for the first time for a whole game against the Warriors Wednesday. I Posted a week or so ago but Kareem has taken him under his wing as the Lakers had cut him loose from his work with Bynum. So this has been his project these days and I don't think its a coincidence his game has improved greatly in that time. Yes he started very well last year and fell off the map but my intuition this year thinks this is the real deal this year.
BattleAngel
QUOTE (The Czar @ Nov 3 2009, 03:14 AM) *
I wish I would have seen him in the preseason. It's amazing how different he looks. He looks like a bigger Pau now instead of a Spanish version of Big Country. I was impressed by how much his body has changed. He must have been totally dedicated in the offseason to improve his conditioning to where it is now. I always liked his physical play and thought he could be a decent ballplayer if he got in shape. Now he is. I wonder if he can eventually become better than Pau. Pau always shies away from contact and I always thought he was a little soft. Marc seems to like to go at it a little more. If he can combine that with the same skill set as big brother, he is going to be an absolute monster.



Gasol is a BEAST!

I have Marc Gasol in one league and Carmelo Anthony in another.

I think there's something to be said about the guys who weren't as "fit" in previous years working hard to tone up in the off-season. Both Gasol and Melo have worked hard to shed some pounds, and both look to have benefited greatly!
NUPE_1911
Another good game last night. Very impressive on the boards and with his back to the basket.
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