Anyone think Moats should be grabbed before the Slaton owners can get em? lol

yea

Yes...People like me who drafted Slaton should be punished for passing on good backs for a slug

He was a FA in my league...by the time I added him he was scooped up by someone. Missed him by about 10 seconds.

hurry

you guys think slaton is done ?

i don't but you never kno.. have to make the pickup just in case

SLATON IS DONE, GET MOATS

Are you guys the same Shone Greene gang?

Lol he's not done but this could very well be a time share going fwd. Just sending him a strong message. Wow he just scored another TD.

another TD.. okay he could be done now

huge game...you have to pick him up

i just added him in one league just so others can't pick him up, I can't imagine him playing barring injury to my other rbs or unless he becomes the guy.

Folks, let's keep the thread on topic. If you want to debate In-game add/drops, feel free to start a separate thread.

Thanks!

There is only Moats...All other RB's are fail

shonn?
no.

thomas jones doesnt fumble as muhc as slaton does

Grabbed Moats before the slaton owner in my league had a chance too.

Looks like this guy will be the hot waiver pickup this week.

i refuse to add him...slaton or bust and after today it looks like bust....

He sure will be the top RB WW add after his 3TD 100+ yard game today.

I aslo just added him in my other leagues where he was available

To keep this on topic, Moats isn't worth it....Buffalo just stinks.

hard to say right now.....this could be kubiak trying to keep slaton in check.....might need another week to know for sure....but ill pick up moats if i can spare some room.

tell that to fred jackson, no one earns timeshare in one game(in freds case a couple games didn't earn him a ts)....he'll either replace slaton and religate him to third down passing plays or he'll be the back up again next week....

as for moats...
i picked him up BEFORE his first td of the game, i saw that slaton fumbled so as a slaton owner i paid attention to who was getting the ball for the next drive (because i know the team was concerned with slatons slippery hands), and i saw it was moats not chris brown so i added him in all of my leagues except the one that requires a waiver. i deserve moats because i had the wherewithal to understand value.

If Moats sucks from here on out? Whatever...his upside is worth it...especially as a handcuff to a RB on a high scoring team.

It seems its time to use that #2 waiver on him in my 16 teamer. Dont have much of a choice as a Slaton owner.

watch the guy with the no.1 waiver priority pick him up, then offer you a terrible trade to get him....

Back on topic--does anyone who saw the game on TV have any opinions on Moats' ability? Did he look good, or did the Bills look bad, or both?

I just don't see Moats taking over for Slaton at this point in time. I think this was one of those stern benchings that aren't meant to motivate a player. However, Slaton has been warned about his fumbling problems before. I would say this certainly isn't a changing of the guard, but Moats certainly deserves an add in most leagues just in case Slaton continues to cough the ball up.

No, but Greene does. LOL

I would say both. Moats is not as talented overall as Slaton. However, he is more patient as a runner than Slaton. He was also playing against a defense that just doesn't stop the run. Its a mixed bag of issues. I know Kubiak came out and said that they can't win without Slaton and Moats.......so we're probably looking at a full on committee situation in Houston. Moats has done well every time he has gotten an opportunity though....so I think they are comfortable with him if Slaton continue to struggle with fumbles.

I have no idea what to make of the situation at this point.

Safe to assume Moats gets the bulk of the goal line touches then?

I added Moats. It's worth a flier. Heck even besides the fumbles, Slaton hasnt done anything this season. He averages like 3.1YPC. A change of Backs vary well could be in store.

I don't think it's safe to assume anything at this point.

I don't see a problem with owning both as of now. My waivers don't go through until Thursday anyways so all I can do is put him on the list...

I'd stay away from the entire situation until we see both next week. I agree one game won't bring about a permanent change (look at FJax tearing it up for 3 weeks then quickly being benched for Lynch) BUT this situation is far different from the Buffalo one. Kubiak has made it known that he won't tolerate Slaton's fumbling problems, I think if it continues then he'd have no choice but to include Moats more. But at the same time they did burn a 1st round pick on Slaton, and he is only in his second year. Basically to sum it up... STAY AWAY!

logically speaking would you give the ball to your guy at the 2 who has hiccup problems?

If Brown can supplant Slaton from Goal line duties, then it's safe to say that Moats is the likely candidate after this past week's performance. If Moats gets goal line + some version of a RBBC, which is likely, he is definitely worth an add.

Right now, Moats has more upside than Slaton. Moats could have goaline + shared carriers + more playing time based on Kubiak's decision + more playing time based on more Slaton fumbles = a lot in his favor!

Slaton may get his job back, but his upsides (without a breakout performance or two in the next week or so to help people forget about Moats and pending Kubiak's decisions) are he gets the chance to start again + could be a 3rd down back for his pass catching ability. He should lose carriers (and may even lose his starting job), hasn't earned more goal line work, and has now moved himself even further into the dog house. There has to be so much pressure on Slaton to perform that I wonder if it will awaken some stellar performances or increase his anxiety levels to a point that he breaks down completely.. As a Slaton owner I hope worst case scenario is a RBBC!

Initially, I thought this was a stern warning by Kubiak, but now I'm seeing a huge hurdle in front of Slaton... I hope he rises to the challenge and is given an opportunity to do so. I'd venture a guess that he is the starter next week, but Moats gets mixed in and is ready to take over if Slaton fumbles or he is the hot hand.

As has been discussed elsewhere, Moats hasn't been immune to drop-itis in his own right, and Chris Brown lurks nearby.

I agree, the Texans seem highly displeased with Slaton right now, but when the HC is saying "We'll see" in response to how the situation will play out, I don't think it's safe to assume that a permanent change has been made.

This is hardly cut-and-dry.

Hordes of panicky Gamers seem to be claiming Ryan Moats. Tim, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for us forum members to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?

Yes, Dale....yes I would.

He had one good game.

Hey, it's your team and your league.

I don't think there is anything wrong with picking up Ryan Moats. I'm doing it for the reason that in case if this guy goes off, I have him first no one else. And if he does go off someone else can't use him against me. I have the roster spot to "waste." If he sucks then he will get waived nothing crazy. I tend to play the wire a lot.

Moats has only lost 1 fumble in his career.

I don't think I specifically said "he's lost a lot of fumbles", but that's okay.  What you left out was that he fumbled three times on 61 touches as a rookie, losing one.  He also coughed one up in a preseason game the following summer, which I realize doesn't show up on player profile pages, but it did on RW.

There's also this profile on him when he was drafted which includes the following:



There's also a conversation going about him on the Eagles board at KFFL, during which others mentioned trouble hanging onto the ball, so I'm not the only one.

As someone who watched most the game, I must say that Moats looked explosive. However the Texans whole offense went right up and down the field against the Bills in the second half. Moats also had good goal line carries.

That being said, I have a feeling that Slaton starts next week. However Moats will get around 10-12 carries and possibly goal line as Chris Brown hasn't really got the job done all year

I think the Texans know that Slaton is too valuable for them to bench him but definitely some first and second down carries are going to be stolen but Slaton is a better reciever by far and with Owen Daniels goin down hes goin to catch even more balls now. And this is coming from a disgruntled Slaton owner, he'll still be in my starting lineup this week.

Not true. Slaton was actually a 3rd round pick for the Texans last year. Coincidentally, Ryan Moats was also a 3rd round pick, albeit back in 2005. And the thing is, if you wait another week to see what happens here before you put a claim in on Moats, chances are he'll be long gone because someone else will preempt you and beat you to the punch. I'm not saying to claim him off waivers and immediately insert him in your starting lineup, but I think Moats needs to be claimed now and put on fantasy league benches until the RB situation in Houston clarifies itself a little more. I'm not saying he definitely will be, but if guys like Nick Goings (in 2004), and Samkon Gado (in 2005) can burst onto the scene in the second half and be very fantasy relevant, Moats can definitely be a fantasy factor this season. Trust me, much stranger things have happened.

he has the potential to be the next shonn greene

Ill probably still start Slaton in PPR, but I have to claim Moats nonetheless.