This guy is a joke as a head coach. His team has lost to Miami twice this year and yet him and his players are still taking shots at the Wildcat. He makes references to stat lines and his players are saying sarcastically that Miami is a great team and they will probably contend for a Super Bowl. Last time I checked the Jets arent a very good team. Maybe if he spent more time coaching and less time making a fool of himself his team would haven't to worry about whether they statistically outplayed a team. He is a great defensive coach but he is in way over his head as a head coach. They beat you twice once in your own house stop making excuses and get to work. Jets fans..this guy is going to be a huge bust as a head coach.

I don't even like the Jets but I sort of agree with them. I have always thought the wildcat is such a gimmicky offense, it drives me crazy and I hate it, but whatever. I agree with you about them talking so much crap and still losing though, until they beat them I'd just be quiet.

Nice, elitism in football.

Clearly you haven't been reading the Rex Ryan parodies on Kissing Suzy Kolber. That alone makes me immune from being sick of him.

Yep...

As a Dolphin fan I guess I need to say something regarding the Wildcat offense.  Is it your standard "by the book" offense?  Not at all, but it's not like we're using it more than the regular offense.  We're only known for using it because we brought it out and we continue to use it more effectively than anyone else in the league.  I'm happy throwing in the gimmicky offense from time to time if it helps the team win games.  Some of the Jets players are starting to act and speak just like their classless coach and it's only going to make them look as dumb as he does on a normal basis.  Personally I can careless if they "Statistically" won the game.  The score is the only number that matters at the end of the game and both times this year they've been on the ass end of it.  

i hate the wildcat....makes ricky williams a nessecary evil...and for that reason alone i hate it...but i will say teams had been running just fine with out before...

But Miami is running it fine. It it so bad, just stop it.

How could anyone hate the wildcat offense? Gimmicky, seriously, who cares. The point on offense is to score points. I would run ANY gimmicky offense that would give me the best chances to score points. This isn't directed at anyone in this thread but some people need to relax when it comes to sports. Sports change and the games evolve. I'm sure fans and coaches thought the forward pass was gimmicky at one point too. Personally, I enjoy the wildcat, it is something different.

Rex Ryan thinks he is a pro wrestler or something. Talk about lowbrow, what were they trying to hire the exact opposite of Belichick? I also love how his brother is talking crap to the Bears when they are losing by like 30 points. Ryan brothers need to shut the hell up. Have to agree that Rex Ryan is a terrible choice for a head coach.

The Jets had almost 4 times as many yards as the Dolphins this week.....and they lost.

The fact is their Offense dominated, their Defense dominated (And dominated the wildcat), and because of 2 Kick Returns and a Fumble Return, it somehow wasn't enough.

Miami should be thanking their lucky stars, because they were thoroughly outplayed all game long and still somehow won, and both teams know it.

It is what it is though, the Jets have to take the loss and move on.

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Frankly, I think Rex Ryan is great for football. For far too long we've had coaches who are far too afraid to say anything remotely controversial that they'd never actually tell you how they feel. Rex, on the other hand, is a man without a filter.....be it good or bad. If only we had a generation of coaches like Rex Ryan, football might actually be more interesting...

PS: How soon we forget, It was the Dolphins and Channing Crowder who trash talked the Jets by calling them the OTA Champions (By the way, nice of Crowder to completely suck in one game, and not even play the other after his trash talk), everything the Jets said was in response of that.

PSS: The sarcastic "Going to the Superbowl" comment was made by Bart Scott, not Rex Ryan.

The Dolphins "lost" three possessions no?

What did he say? Any links? I remember him sort of dissing the Wildcat the first time, but I just chucked. Sour grapes from a guy who's D got their butt kicked. However, this time, I have no idea. Thanks in advance. BTW, when the 4-3, 3-4, or 46 defense was first introduced, they were considered gimmicky as well.....The irony is what's funny....

I love Rex Ryan, and I'm not at all a Jets' fan. I'm from Chicago and love the Bears and whoever is on my fantasy team.

We complain all the time about coaches just giving the same old boring crap and then you get a guy like Rex Ryan who says what's on his mind and people still complain. The Dolphins do have a gimmick offense, and the only reason it really works is because they have an outstanding offensive line. They run the Wildcat so well because they just run the ball very well period.

Gimmicky or not, I think it's just smart football. They don't have any good WRs and they're two best skill players on offense are their two RBs. Gives them away to insert these two players in the lineup at the same time but really make both of them dynamic threats rather then just sub one of them at another conventional position like FB or TE. Good coaches set up their best players for success. It's very good football...

I've got no issues with Miami's offense...they're strength is running the ball and they've created all kinds of different running formations with the Wildcat.

My only point is that Rex Ryan is a nice addition to the league, and his observation was at least pretty accurate. If Miami has WR's and a QB, they don't need to make all these different run formations with the QB spread out wide. Your QB out wide is not the ideal formation. You really want your QB hitting real playmakers downfield in open space. You don't want Ronnie Brown hitting Chad Henne deep.

It happens all the time. Rex Ryan is the Chad Ochocinco of football coaches. At first, everyone likes him because he's different and willing to put himself out there and talk a little smack. Then, some success comes, and everyone starts schlobbing the guy's knob because of how "bold and unique he is." Then, when a little failure hits, everyone realizes that they're sick of the act that a guy like Ochocinco or Ryan puts on all the time. Think about how old Ochocinco's act and his media-whorishness have become, when only a couple of years ago they seemed fresh. Unless Rex Ryan has incredible success as a coach, people will sour on Ryan's blowhard act in a couple of years and grow tired of it.

I even agree with Ryan's assessment of the wildcat and think he's a great defensive mind. But a guy with his personality will burn bright and flame out quickly as a head coach imo, particularly in New York.

Miami running the wildcat is fine. Cleveland running it is fine. There is nothing else in Cleveland besides Cribbs...

What I hate, is that every team now thinks, "We should put in a wildcat..."

No, Chicago Bears, you do not need to run a wildcat offense. You need to fire Ron Turner.

The Eagles do not need to run a wildcat offense. The Vikings don't need it.

You're probably right that people will grow tired of him...I still like that he adds a little color to an otherwise boring group of head coaches. Just like "the Tuna" did and my favorite coach Mike Ditka...you gotta love these guys. Do we really want a bunch of Brian Billicks and Bill Belichecks. NY fans will love him as long as he wins.

1) People used to think the "forward pass" was gimmicky. The "Wildcat" is a great design because generally you've got 9 blocking 11 on any given running play. By removing the QB and snapping it directly to the RB, you now have 10 blocking 11. It's SMART football. Can't believe people would be slamming it.

2) As someone else said, if you don't like it, stop it. Things stick around if they work, like the "West Coast Offense," and stop if they don't, like the "Run 'N Shoot."

As more and more spread offenses are run at major college programs, more and more "Wildcat" is likely to be run at the pro level. Get used to it.

I'm not sure how talking about the Wildcat answers if someone is sick of Rex Ryan's act.

As a Jets fan, I love it. He'll grow as a coach and learn, but that's his personality. If he was your coach, I'm sure you would love it. I'd rather him then a ton of coaches that have no personally.

We completely dominated the Dolphins. We should have won that game, plain and simple. What happens with the Jets is that we never have our three legs standing strong at the same time. Defense and Special Teams one game while the offense doesn't work. Another week it's (such as this week), it was offense and defense, and not special teams. That is the ultimate problem with the Jets. So unlike us too, as we have one of the better special team units in the NFL. Crappy ass game.

funny you mention the Run N shoot, as reading about Rex makes me think back to when his dad Buddy was coaching the Eagles and he would say and do things that ticked off opponents...and he used to call the Run N Shoot, the "Chuck N Duck"...
i only hate the wildcat because it led to Andy Reid thinking he could perfect it, which led to Michael Vick coming to Philadelphia, and led to these exciting 2 yard gains when the eagles go wildcat...

Amen brotha. Personally I find the progression of sports to be very interesting, and football personifies it best of all. I encourage all coaching staffs to brainstorm new schemes, try anything to win, and as has been mentioned if it works it will stick around and if it doesn't it won't. No one can legitimately argue the wildcat doesn't work, Miami has shown repeatedly that it will.

As a life long Dolfan I am happy to see the green and white suffer, that is what a rivalry is all about. Ryan is blowhard, but I love it. After living in Chicago for a couple of years listening to Lovey interviews, it is refreshing. Take it for what is, laugh at it. As for Ryans comments on 4 to 1 (400 to 100 yds offense) - when you run 2 100+ yd kicks back for TD's and a defensive TD, your offense will not spend much time on the field.

Lastly, as for the Wildcat - hey, we have no WRs to speak off and a young QB. Sparano and Tuna are doing what it takes to win. Taking the QB out evens the blocking and puts your best playmakers on the field. I would much rather watch the Wildcat than witness a STL vs DET game ever again.

Lucky Stars?  Special teams is a part of football last I checked.  If you give up 299 and 2 tds in return yards, you're definately not putting yourself in a position to win a game.  The Jets did everything right on defense and decided to take special team plays off.  Not smart at all and it cost them another loss to a team that they still talk down to...  Personally I don't care for Rex but to each his own.  I do agree with you on Crowder though.  He needs to shut his mouth if he's not even going to be on the field.  But everything they said was not in response to Crowder.  The Jets don't know how to lose because they seem to have the mentality that they're better than everybody else.  That's fine but if you're going to think that way, you need to back it up on the field.  They clearly haven't done that this year.  

You're right. We're talking about the Wildcat when we should be talking about Ryan.
I can tell you 100% that I appreciate guys who keep their mouth shut after losing and don't run their mouth, and therefore would not love it if he was my coach. It's like Roy Williams giving the 1st down signal when he played for the Lions when he caught his first ball in the 4th quarter and the Lions were down 20. Or Donnie Avery doing the "Stanky Leg" a couple weeks ago when he caught a 4th quarter TD and the Rams were down 30.
Have a personality. That's great. But win. Ryan is an embarrassment right now. He's a good coach. He should act like it.

I definitely get it, but honestly as a Jet fan I don't care. We have nothing else, so let's have some fun.

I dont think anyone other than a few terrible teams would love a coach that is 4-4 with a mouth that thinks he is 8-0

Am I the only one who thinks Ryan need to learn how to be a head coach? He needs to lower his Ego a bit? Listening to his quotes on why he doesn't do some things like call timeout at the end of the half or game it always seems to be I didn't think the other team would get the first down/Touchdown.

Sorry if your the head coach you NEED to think of what will happen if the other team can score.

Why did you kick the ball to Ginn after he already returned one for a TD? Because I thought our return team would tackle him. While I don't disagree with believing in your team, that doesn't mean you can't plan properly and set your team up to be in the best way you can, squib kick work as well....

This is getting a bit old. There is no way for you to say that the Jets dominated the Dolphins. Did the defense do a good job in the 1st half? Yes. Did the Dolphins D do a good job in the 1st half? Yes. Did both offenses play pretty poorly in the 1st half? Yes. This is not domination.

On to the 2nd half. It's very difficult for your offense to accumulate offensive yardage when your kick returner is returning 2 kicks for TD's in the 3rd Quarter. It doesn't make it any easier when your defense returns a fumble for a TD in that same quarter. The 4th Quarter comes and while the Jets did stop the Phins on a couple of drives, the Phins did march right down the field for a very critical TD that was essentially the game winner.

What I'm trying to get at is had Ginn NOT returned those kicks for TD's, the Miami offense surely could have accumulated some yards in that 3rd quarter which would have made this game look a lot different from a comparing yards per team perspective. You can't just dismiss those kick returns and say "we outplayed that team and were the better team on the field today we had 3 times the amount of offense that they did....yada yada" (paraphrasing what Rex said).

Until your team starts winning games against your biggest division rival, you better keep your mouth shut or you will be abused by people throughout the league. Dungy said it best "my mother always told me that when you win, you should say little. When you lose, you should say even less". Rex just can't keep his mouth shut in a time where it logically makes sense to. And if you can't keep your mouth shut, at least give the team that just swept you a little credit. It may make your coaching ability and player abilities not look as bad as it just showed.

I shouldn't have said completely, because clearly our ST unit let us down. And I too agree Rex should be giving them credit, because credit is deserved, but I still stand behind the fact that we should have beaten the Dolphins this game. Regardless, Rex is going to learn and grow as a head coach.

I understand how it looks when he talks and talks, so I don't blame anyone. Talk it fine, but for F sakes do something about it Rex. Stop being the same old Jets where it's always something.

Exactly .... good points about the offense not seeing the field because their defense and special teams were making plays. Its really no different than a team saying "they couldn't even pass the ball" after a team just RAN for 400 yards on them. What was a great story at the begining of the year is starting to look like a whole lot of bluster now. I can't wait for the Pats to spite-beat them in the rematch.

I like both Rex Ryan and the Wildcat. Is that allowed? And I like that they hate each other. Gives us something to talk about.

Why do people have such strong feelings about the Wildcat? It's just an offensive formation and the Dolphins have the right personnel to run it. It doesn't work for a lot of teams because the scheme simply doesn't suit their players' abilities and skills. It would be analogous to OAK running a no huddle offense with JaCarcass.