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bILLy1nk
Shooting 2/13, played 16 minutes, and i havnt seen it say he's on the court for a while. Did he get injured or anything or just pulled for the poor performance?


Not too upset about it since i got Ramon Sessions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big E
ellis is just chaulkin up the steals tonight
TonyMontana123
According to Roto he didn't come back out because of a "coaching decision", but it was probably an injury.
th2w0
QUOTE (TonyMontana123 @ Apr 14 2008, 09:29 PM) *
According to Roto he didn't come back out because of a "coaching decision", but it was probably an injury.


Please don't say things like "it was probably an injury" if you have absolutely no information to back the claim. I in fact watched the whole game, and Baron was not hurt. He was just shotting bad, and the bench got them back in the game from 17 down, so Nellie decided to roll the dice (what are the odds) and leave him on the bench. If he was injured, which i doubt, there has been absolutely no indication or mention of it. Who knows who will play on Weds now that the Playoff hunt is over for the Nugs, Mavs and Denver but I wouldnt' be surprised to see signficantly less playing time for most of the starters.
Modock
Umm - he was quoting Rotoworld.
yoshi415
I wish Nellie would have put Baron back in when the Suns started to close the lead...
th2w0
Let my anger be directed to rotoworld and not the previous poster. And if he is injured than the Warriors broadcasting crew did a horrible job informing the viewers
bILLy1nk
Seems weird that Nelson would bench the best player on his team during the final minutes of the most important game of the season tied up..... They don't always report injuries so he might of just been sore or something and sat out the rest of the game, anyone notice him sitting on the bench the second half or was he in the locker room?
th2w0
QUOTE (bILLy1nk @ Apr 14 2008, 10:28 PM) *
Seems weird that Nelson would bench the best player on his team during the final minutes of the most important game of the season tied up..... They don't always report injuries so he might of just been sore or something and sat out the rest of the game, anyone notice him sitting on the bench the second half or was he in the locker room?


He was on the bench just watching. This wasn't the biggest game, I think everyone on the team already felt like their chances with over, as there is pretty much no way Denver is going down to Memphis on Weds. Nellie was hoping to spark something from the bench. Played Kostja Perovic and Croshure a lot. I think Nelson just wanted to give Barona rest. No point draining his star player who was already ice cold when only a mircale could have gotten them in. Baron just look tired in the first half. I doubt he plays more than 20 mins on Weds.
bILLy1nk
QUOTE (th2w0 @ Apr 15 2008, 03:04 AM) *
He was on the bench just watching. This wasn't the biggest game, I think everyone on the team already felt like their chances with over, as there is pretty much no way Denver is going down to Memphis on Weds. Nellie was hoping to spark something from the bench. Played Kostja Perovic and Croshure a lot. I think Nelson just wanted to give Barona rest. No point draining his star player who was already ice cold when only a mircale could have gotten them in. Baron just look tired in the first half. I doubt he plays more than 20 mins on Weds.



That isn't a miracle... Suns Vs. Warriors went down to the wire, a great leader like Baron being in the game whether he's having an off night or not can make a huge difference especially in the 4th quarter. Nuggets losing to the Grizzlies isn't impossible. Anything can happen and when the playoffs are on the line I think you should play 100% until the last buzzer sounds and your team is elliminated. If it takes a miracle you should go for it.
th2w0
I don't think Nellie was giving up at all. I'm pretty sure he thought we had a better chance with the 5 that were out there. Baron just look tired and his shot was completely off. His focus was not in the game.
Slevin Kelevra
QUOTE (bILLy1nk @ Apr 15 2008, 03:16 AM) *
That isn't a miracle... Suns Vs. Warriors went down to the wire, a great leader like Baron being in the game whether he's having an off night or not can make a huge difference especially in the 4th quarter. Nuggets losing to the Grizzlies isn't impossible. Anything can happen and when the playoffs are on the line I think you should play 100% until the last buzzer sounds and your team is elliminated. If it takes a miracle you should go for it.



LMAO

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bILLy1nk
QUOTE (Slevin Kelevra @ Apr 15 2008, 08:27 AM) *
LMAO

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I bet you would of laughed at the Warriors beating the Mavericks last playoffs.
Slevin Kelevra
QUOTE (bILLy1nk @ Apr 15 2008, 02:57 PM) *
I bet you would of laughed at the Warriors beating the Mavericks last playoffs.


1st) i won a lot of money last year betting on GS against Dallas

2nd) i don't see the connection between a 1st round playoffs and a last regular season game between Denver and a team full of SCRUBS like Memphis that doesn't care a s--- about that game

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nicktimmons
QUOTE (Slevin Kelevra @ Apr 15 2008, 08:07 PM) *
1st) i won a lot of money last year betting on GS against Dallas

2nd) i don't see the connection between a 1st round playoffs and a last regular season game between Denver and a team full of SCRUBS like Memphis that doesn't care a s--- about that game

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Slevin, quite simply...

A.) Nobody cares if you made a bundle betting the GS-DAL series last year. I would surmise that you are trying to say that you are such a bright, intelligent, astute basketball mind that you can spot the upset. Congratulations for being there to profit off of catching lightning in a bottle. However, your second comment completely tears apart the veracity of the claim implicit in your first. We are supposed to believe that your betting that series indicates you not only can catch lightning in a bottle, but that you know sports. Sorry, just can't get myself to believe that to be true based on comment the 2nd...

B.) You missed the point being made - this is the NBA, the best professional basketball league in the world. Hakim Warrick won a national title at Cuse, Rudy Gay is a star in the making, Conley is going to be a good pg in the league, etc., etc. The team may not be an efficiently functioning, cohesive team unit in the upper echelon of the league, but the players are not complete scrubs. In football there is the "Any Given Sunday" cliche. You really give the Giants a shot at winning the SB before the playoff started? How about the Heat two years ago? The crux of the issue is variance. The likelihood is that Memphis gets blown out, especially considering the ramifications of the game for their opponent, the obviously superior Nuggets. What if Melo is suspended b/c the results of his DUI come back tonight? What if Camby breaks an ankle in the first half? What if Iverson shoots 4-19 and JR Smith cant throw the ball in the ocean if he tried? I mean, it happens, especially as "it" relates to the outcome of just one game. Do you not remember the game a few or so ago where they lost to Seattle (to my mind, the worst team in the west, and the second worst team in the NBA)...That was potentially a deal breaker, as far as their getting into the playoffs.

The point? You don't see a connection between that playoff series and the game tomorrow? It's variance...go read some A.N. Kolmolgorov, some Bayes, some Chebyshev. Nail down some statistical concepts. Then open your eyes. Even though it doesn't matter anymore now that the Warriors lost, the point is that Denver could still lose, no matter what NBA team they are playing. And the fact that you bet the GS-DAL series and won some money doesn't change the facticity that is the adherence in reality of that permuational possibility...
TonyMontana123
Slevin I know what you're trying to say, over the course of a 7 game series the Nuggets should beat the Grizzlies, but after the 160 point thrashing by the Sonics you shouldn't rule out any team vs the Nuggets in a single game.

I only wish Ramon Sessions played the Nuggets tomorrow, he'd probably get 40 points with 30 assists.
Slevin Kelevra
QUOTE (nicktimmons @ Apr 15 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Slevin, quite simply...

A.) Nobody cares if you made a bundle betting the GS-DAL series last year. I would surmise that you are trying to say that you are such a bright, intelligent, astute basketball mind that you can spot the upset. Congratulations for being there to profit off of catching lightning in a bottle. However, your second comment completely tears apart the veracity of the claim implicit in your first. We are supposed to believe that your betting that series indicates you not only can catch lightning in a bottle, but that you know sports. Sorry, just can't get myself to believe that to be true based on comment the 2nd...

B.) You missed the point being made - this is the NBA, the best professional basketball league in the world. Hakim Warrick won a national title at Cuse, Rudy Gay is a star in the making, Conley is going to be a good pg in the league, etc., etc. The team may not be an efficiently functioning, cohesive team unit in the upper echelon of the league, but the players are not complete scrubs. In football there is the "Any Given Sunday" cliche. You really give the Giants a shot at winning the SB before the playoff started? How about the Heat two years ago? The crux of the issue is variance. The likelihood is that Memphis gets blown out, especially considering the ramifications of the game for their opponent, the obviously superior Nuggets. What if Melo is suspended b/c the results of his DUI come back tonight? What if Camby breaks an ankle in the first half? What if Iverson shoots 4-19 and JR Smith cant throw the ball in the ocean if he tried? I mean, it happens, especially as "it" relates to the outcome of just one game. Do you not remember the game a few or so ago where they lost to Seattle (to my mind, the worst team in the west, and the second worst team in the NBA)...That was potentially a deal breaker, as far as their getting into the playoffs.

The point? You don't see a connection between that playoff series and the game tomorrow? It's variance...go read some A.N. Kolmolgorov, some Bayes, some Chebyshev. Nail down some statistical concepts. Then open your eyes. Even though it doesn't matter anymore now that the Warriors lost, the point is that Denver could still lose, no matter what NBA team they are playing. And the fact that you bet the GS-DAL series and won some money doesn't change the facticity that is the adherence in reality of that permuational possibility...



what an interesting post....yawn.....wait...yawn


btw, easy win for Denver

try again, maybe you'll be lucky next time

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LiLNipsFatal
QUOTE (nicktimmons @ Apr 15 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Slevin, quite simply...

A.) Nobody cares if you made a bundle betting the GS-DAL series last year. I would surmise that you are trying to say that you are such a bright, intelligent, astute basketball mind that you can spot the upset. Congratulations for being there to profit off of catching lightning in a bottle. However, your second comment completely tears apart the veracity of the claim implicit in your first. We are supposed to believe that your betting that series indicates you not only can catch lightning in a bottle, but that you know sports. Sorry, just can't get myself to believe that to be true based on comment the 2nd...

B.) You missed the point being made - this is the NBA, the best professional basketball league in the world. Hakim Warrick won a national title at Cuse, Rudy Gay is a star in the making, Conley is going to be a good pg in the league, etc., etc. The team may not be an efficiently functioning, cohesive team unit in the upper echelon of the league, but the players are not complete scrubs. In football there is the "Any Given Sunday" cliche. You really give the Giants a shot at winning the SB before the playoff started? How about the Heat two years ago? The crux of the issue is variance. The likelihood is that Memphis gets blown out, especially considering the ramifications of the game for their opponent, the obviously superior Nuggets. What if Melo is suspended b/c the results of his DUI come back tonight? What if Camby breaks an ankle in the first half? What if Iverson shoots 4-19 and JR Smith cant throw the ball in the ocean if he tried? I mean, it happens, especially as "it" relates to the outcome of just one game. Do you not remember the game a few or so ago where they lost to Seattle (to my mind, the worst team in the west, and the second worst team in the NBA)...That was potentially a deal breaker, as far as their getting into the playoffs.

The point? You don't see a connection between that playoff series and the game tomorrow? It's variance...go read some A.N. Kolmolgorov, some Bayes, some Chebyshev. Nail down some statistical concepts. Then open your eyes. Even though it doesn't matter anymore now that the Warriors lost, the point is that Denver could still lose, no matter what NBA team they are playing. And the fact that you bet the GS-DAL series and won some money doesn't change the facticity that is the adherence in reality of that permuational possibility...


Excellent post. Agree 100%.
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