With Bush getting a ton of TDs so far and considering hes not the goal line back, so that will not continue, it would be wise to trade him for the upper echelon backs while his value is so bloated.

It depends. I agree if you're in a standard scoring system, as you're probably right about the touchdowns. However, in a PPR league, I think he's a legitimate beast with all the balls that are bound to be thrown his way.

His numbers will go down once Colston comes back

Reggie Bush has 3 offensive touchdowns. 3 is not "tons of TD's". Furthermore, Bush is so inconsistent, he really isn't that desireable of a trade chip. He tends to land on "Reggie Bush fan" teams. Name one "upper echelon back" you can trade him for. None man. With as poor of an offense and situation Larry Johnson is in, he is about as good a back as you are likely to get for Bush from any non-bush-jocking owner with half an ounce of knowlede. I guess in one of those "start 2 QB's, 4 RB's and 1 point every 10 return yards" leagues you may have some takers, but not for anyone considered upper echelon.

Bush is legit, stop hating...he's gold, Jerry, GOLD!

depends on PPR.In my main league he's the #1 RB right now.Last year before he got hurt he was top 10 so he's definately a bonafide #1 RB.I have no idea what you can get for him in a trade, all I could say is throw the feelers out there and see what turns up.

Bush is arguably the #1 RB in PPR leagues, and likely will be battling Westbrook for that honor all the way through week 17 ... I would trade ANY back not named Westbrook for him in a PPR league, especially this year with LT and AP having their injury issues already.

In PPR leagues, no way. His receptions always make him valuable in there. People not in PPR leagues may not realize how much of an asset Bush can be in PPRs.

I intend to ride him to fantasy championships in all three of my leagues, thank you very much. And to think I got him in the late 4th round!

6th round in a non PPR league...so I'm happy.

I have him in ppr and I dont view him as a sell high canidate. He is going to catch 100 balls this year. In a standard league I understand the logic of testing the market with him but even still its a powerful offence and he is going to be force fed a lot of touches. Unless you are in a standard league and you can get a great more consistent back which I doubt I think he is more of a hold canidate.

PPR league or not, if the guy doesn't get hurt, he is going to have a monster year. He is their offense, he looks quicker and more decisive in his running then last year. Still isn't running great between the tackles but that just isn't his game.....I think they only reason you sell high is if you think he will get hurt. This is his third year, this shouldn't be a shock to anyone....He has great talent and he is in a great offense that completely revolves around him. In a PPR league, WOW, the guy is one of the best but I have him in a non-PPR league....Got him for next to nothing and I had a feeling he was about to explode.

He's been incredibly consistent in fantasy, even non-PPR formats, if not always in his rushing statistics. Plus, he's a better goal line option than Pierre Thomas, and if Sean Payton ever figures this out, his value goes way up.

I see him as a more talented, more durable Westbrook with a slightly better passing offense (but a much worse run-blocking OL). In other words, he will never be out of the offensive game plan, because he can get yards and score in so many ways.

In PPR leagues, he might very well be the top running back in the league if he stays healthy, and I would expect a trade partner to pay accordingly. In non-PPR leagues, his value is considerably lower, but there are only a handful of RBs I would considering trading Bush for.

Bush could tank, your right and so could every other player in the nfl.... But not many have top 5 potential like Bush does.. it's worth the risk.

I'm so glad I picked Reggie. I picked him late in the 2nd round in a RB run and was really beating myself up for taking him that early and people were poking fun at me.

Boy am I glad I picked this guy!

I love Bush considering that he was my 4th rounder. However my league is 1/2 PPR so I remain confused on his value. With that said, it doesn't matter because nobody would trade me a RB1 for him anyway. So I'm content owning a guy that I drafted in the 4th with production on the season likely to be that of a late 1st, early 2nd round RB.

I think that's exactly how you have to play it if you owned him. I'm envious of the Bush owners so far. I owned him the last couple of years and I pledged to stay away this year. I do believe he breaks down before the end of the year, though, so if he can keep this up for a couple more games you'd be well-served to try to deal him.

In his rookie season, starting only 8 games, he had 1300 total yards / 88 Receptions / and 8 TDs! (And thats not including returns)

In his sophmore season, playing in only 11 games, he had 1000 total yards / 73 Receptions / and 6 TDs!

And so far, this season (thru only 3 games), he has 400 total yards / 26 receptions / and 5 TDs!

PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THESE ARENT GREAT NUMBERS. REGGIE BUSH IS A STUD!

Bloated? Check his stats. The Saints' offense revolves around Brees and Bush. The Saints are a passing team and Bush can catch like a WR. Put all those together and you have a great back. It doesn't matter how he scores TDs, but that he scores. Watch a Saints' game before you make unfounded remarks.

By the end of the year he wont have as many TDs as any of the top 10 RBs, which is why i say trade him for a better back now while his TD numbers are high. Top RBs get the ball on the goal line, Bush does not.

Why the hate towards Reggie? Like the others have said, the Saints whole game revolves around him it seems. He gets his TD's so far this year. Don't see why he can't keep it up. So he doesn't get the goal line carries all the time. He still scores doesn't he? He's a complete stud in PPR leagues, and still a damn good back in non-PPR leagues. Give me some proof otherwise, then I'd maybe buy into your argument. You're just spouting off random crap about him not getting goal line carries.

He doesnt get Goal line carries 3 of his TDs are from 20+ yards and 1 from 6...Pierre Thomas has 5 out of 6 of their runs inside the 5 this year Karney has the other. You cant rely on 20 yard catches and runs to score TDs all year it just doesnt continue which is why his TD numbers wont stay high.

In a PPR league the fact that he gets 3-4 more receptions than the average top 10 RB makes up for 8 TD's a year in a 6 pt/TD league. He's one of 2 RB's in the top 20 in the league in receptions. He's first and Steven Jackson is 19th 11 receptions behind him after 3 games. That means the next highest RB in the league would need 2 more TD's than him thus far to balance out his huge reception total. I doubt he ends up first in the league in receptions (Marshall and likely others will catch him), but he'll be in the top 10 and he will probably lead RB's by a fairly wide margin. He won't be anywhere near the league lead in rushing yards, but he will be very close to the lead in total yards from scrimmage out of all the RB's.

In non-PPR leagues I would sell high, but only if you're getting a top 10 back in return. He's highly unlikely to keep his current TD pace, but I think the total yardage will stay amongst the league leaders.

Truthfully his ability to produce when healthy isn't really what concerns me. It's whether he can sustain this pace for an entire season while getting that many touches. I think the fact that Thomas is taking the brunt of the hits from DL and LB and Bush is getting to the second level on these dump-offs makes it a lot more likely that he will. Anyone can have a fluke injury, but the way the Saints are using him makes it a lot less likely he gets worn down through taking a lot of big hits.

In his career, so far, he is averaging 90 total yards and 6 catches a game. And he scores a TD 57% of the time. All this plus an occasional punt return to the house.

In PPR leagues, the fact that he averages 6 catches a game, completely cancels out the lack of a TD that day. And as the stats indicate, more times then not he scores a TD as well.

100% true... I love reading this mans posts.

I am in a ppr league, and was torn if i should "sell high" or not. Then I got offered Cutler and Jacobs for Bush and Frave. Had to make the deal, since I already have SJax, Ronnie Brown and Chris Perry on my roster.

I just factored in his punt return TDs, and that brings the percentage of games he scores a TD up to 63%.

Just for a frame of reference, 1st Rounder- Joseph Addai averages 88 yards, 2 catches a game. And scores a TD 76% of the time.

Addai averages 2 less yards a game, 4 less catches a game, but he scores a TD 10% more of the time.


Honestly, how different are these numbers?

He gets hurt a lot - I think that's the point that's in dispute. That's what diminishes his value. I don't recall saying he's not good. He's not reliable - in any way shape or form.

He missed the final 4 1/2 games last year with a knee injury. Other then that, there have been no injuries? He played all 16 games of his rookie season.

Not very. If you average out the points of the two based on a PPR format you'd get Bush with something around 19/game (6 ppr, 9 yardage 4 for TD) and Addai with 16/game (2 PPR, 9 yardage, 5 for TD). Additionally TD's are probably the most fluctuating stat in football. Look at Willie Parker for example. If I recall correctly he outdid his entire output from last year in week 1.

Anyone that watched Bush at USC knows that White took basically all the up the middle carries. Bush wasn't even on the field for the critical 4th and 1 USC got stuffed on and lost the NC game against Texas. Thomas is going to get those carries and goal line carries. Bush was strictly an outside runner and often lined up as a WR. It surely didn't hurt his numbers as he dominated on his way to a Heisman. The fact he won't get the easy TD's is as I said before easily overwhelmed by the fact his reception total makes up the difference over most any top 10 back in a ppr league. He's found his niche in the NFL and the Saints use him a lot like USC did when he put up all those numbers and highlight films in college.

Do you actually have Bush on your team? Or are you just throwing this out there?

I have Bush in a PPR league. He's the leading receiver on that team as well as the leading scorer. He's on a Saints team that is going to continue to throw the ball and score as many points as they can. So why would I think about trading him? And trade him for whom??


"Top RBs get the ball at the goal line" Really? By that logic Pierre Thomas and TJ Duckett are Top RBs.

good point Diablo...I'm trying to target Bush before he continues to produce quality numbers EACH week...thinking of Portis for Bush straight up...

Is that a PPR league? If so, that's a steal for you!

If it's standard scoring...it's a tougher decision. Portis is pretty solid in standard scoring. It's really about who feel more comfortable with.

With 1/2 PPR, he should be the #1 player in the league by a good margin. He may not keep it up, but he's a strong #1 RB, and I wouldn't trade him any RB1--except for possibly the likes of Westbrook, Barber, or Peterson.

You can consider dealing him in a non-PPR league, but it would still have to be a good package, just not the amazing package that you would seek in PPR.

in my non ppr league, I traded him along with David Garrard and Kevin Walter for Romo. In my .5ppr, I would be shocked to recieve an offer I would accept. I expect him to have a great year, with many more awesome games and about five duds.

you should look at game 1 when colston was healthy he didn't interfere with bush's stats at all.........

Its all about can his body handle this much work....If it can, he will be a top 3 RB in PPR leagues and a top 10 back in NON PPR leagues. I would worry about injury just because of his body size but he really doesn't have an injury history beyond last year. There was so much Reggie hate before the year I found it comical.

I think Colston got hurt pretty early on in that game, he only had like 3 catches for 30 yards or something. If he comes back strong and starts catching 8-10 balls a game it will definitely impact Reggie a little, but I agree he'll still get his.

Bush isn't a sell-high in my book. He is the lite version of Westbrook. Only downside is that he is not the goal-line back.

I traded Bush for Randy Moss before last weeks game in my standard scoring league.

I think Colston comming back will actually strengthen Reggie's run game. Colston is the Saints deep guy who will stretch the field take the extra defender out of the box and make CBs play a little deeper.

What could really hurt Bush is the when Duce starts to get involved more into the offense.... In PPR leagues you might not get fair value in return. But in non PPR I'd sell for sure.

Bush 3.6 yards a carry. Duce will cut into at least half of his running touches. Along with some of those tough goal line TDs.



But if Duce gets hurt again (big knee injuries in '05 and '07) or doesn't come back to be the horse he once was (he's 30) Bush might not be worth trading... You are messing with lightning in a bottle right now trying to trade Bush.

So basically unless you are getting a very clear deal that will help your team imensly, I wouldn't trade Bush.

If it's not a PPR league, I'd say sell high.

If it is, and he finally can do what he does, you are looking at a top 10 fantasy player the rest of the year, with punt return upside.

Factors: PPR? Keeper League?

PPR: No way you trade him. A RB with his catching skills, explosiveness and ability to change on a dime is a rarity. He's just scratching the surface and will eventually have the patience and learn to grind out the tough yards.

Keeper, PPR: No, see reasons above

Non PPR & Non Keeper: see what you can get as you lose value in non points on receptions.

In PPR leagues, Reggie Bush is essentially a WR1 or strong WR2 with running back eligibility. Oh, and he runs the ball on the ground too, so he's at least a flex RB. Plus, you'll get an occasional punt return score.

You get all that in one package.

looks like the Bush/Gore show tomorrow...hope the game is on tv, I love watching both guys play

This reminds me of a question I had last week. How many catches does he have to get to get WR eligibility?. He lines up in the slot on many plays, so in all leagues shouldn't he be listed as a RB/WR, not just a RB?

well i tried to help

yea umm wtf bush...good thing i have chris johnson as well.


anyone know if reggie bush even had any catches?

He had like 5 for 7 yards. Now that Deuce is back Bushs value will fall even more.

shoot, hopefully the owner who i offered bush for LT doesnt look at bushes game today...