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  1. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    10-6; 4-2 in division splitting with PHI/DAL
  2. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    I never said they weren’t - I did say that both would most likely look not as good behind horrific OL with no run game and without their top 3 WRs I’m not saying Eli is still great, or even as good as those 2, but the state of the Giants offense as a whole was almost impossible to succeed in. I honestly don’t think any QB would’ve done well - truly atrocious line play and receivers leading the league in drops + no running game. If Eli sucks this year, I’ll be the first to call him done. He was not the problem last year and I think people will be surprised by what he shows now that he has an nfl caliber LT, Odell back, and what should be an improved OL + Barkley to give him something resembling a run game.
  3. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Brees - excellent run game, take away that and Michael Thomas. How’s he look? Ben - take away AB, Juju, Bryant, Bell and make the OL worse. How’s he look?
  4. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Great points Eli relied quite a bit on his mobility up to this point, so huge blow to his game. Shame he can’t move like the good ole days: Oh wait, that was last year and he was never “mobile”. I’m sure his receivers leading the league in drops despite throwing the 5th best catchable ball %, a career year in the redzone (when they actually got there), and being top 10 in intermediate route accuracy / quick release among all NFL QBs (aka Shurmur’s passing game) also suggest he’s “done”. Lots of QBs would look great with their top 3 receivers in and out of the lineup, their replacements helping to lead the league in dropped passes, 1 of the worst run games in the league, and a pair of offensive tackles who ranked among the worst in the league. Not saying he’s “elite”, but he is not the problem. There is no QB in the NFL that would’ve succeeded under the conditions he played with last year - none (you’ll say Wilson, I’ll say Doug Baldwin playing the full season makes the point moot, yada yada). Tavares King, Orleans Darkwa, Erick Flowers - these guys are now Odell, Barkley, Solder. That might help.
  5. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Its not ideal, but I really don’t think you can get much worse than Hart. For all the hate Flowers draws, Hart was even worse - just not a top pick so less scrutiny. Hart getting cut was truly addition by subtraction. Solder, Hernandez, Jones, Omameh, Wheeler not great, but doesn’t have to be. If they come together as a mediocre Jags/Chiefs caliber OL (no reason they shouldn’t), this offense is going to be tough to stop.
  6. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    They seem vulnerable to the run / TEs so how they approach Engram will be interesting (I assume Ramsey shadows Odell). I’m confident in Bettcher’s front containing Fournette and they don’t really have a passing game worth stressing about - gonna be interesting.
  7. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Wheeler, a “project”, is legit : Hernandez will obviously start, assuming Omameh shifts to RG: Solder: Jones: Eli Manning just might actually have time to read a defense this year. Not leading the league in dropped passes should help too.
  8. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Wheeler/Flowers; I doubt it gets any worse Almost impossible to be a worse offensive lineman:
  9. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    he absolutely developed “happy feet” ... the saddest part is he got rid of the ball so quickly and still ending up getting sacked so much. For as much ire as Flowers draws (rightfully so), I don’t think I’ve ever seen worse OL play than Bobby Hart - hence the excitement on my part re: Solder and to a lesser extent Wheeler. Mediocrity on the OL would be a godsend compared to last year.
  10. Dez Bryant 2018 Season Outlook

    Being among the league leaders in drops last year definitely shows how good he still is
  11. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Eli Manning 2017 1. This “offensive” line: 4th most sacks in the league; 3.9 ypc run game that’s 26th in yards 2. This receiving corp: Top 3 options injured at times; Most dropped passes in the league “In total, 75.8% of Manning’s passes were considered catchable, which was good for fifth-best in the league. Despite that, the Giants also led the NFL with 45 dropped passes.” So, put up top 5 “catchable passes” despite a truly pathetic OL ... graded top 12 overall QB before he lost all 3 WRs ... He was not the problem.
  12. Dez Bryant 2018 Season Outlook

    2012-2014 this would actually make sense Solid derailment of this thread - the NFL is clearly racist or he’s not that good anymore. Yeah, that.
  13. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    TO ALL OF ROTOWORLD: I am not suggesting Eli Manning is a current “elite” QB. I have been pointing out, with actual supporting evidence and objectivity, just how poorly his OL was in both run/pass protection and how he actually graded before he literally lost his top 3 WRs in the same game (2 on the same drive - 2017 season in a nutshell) Eli is not what he was, but he is also not the “problem” either. An upgraded OL (significantly in my opinion), healthy Odell, Shepard, and Engram year 2 with some Barkley guy in the backfield just may make him look better than Flowers/Hart “blocking” along with constantly reshuffled interior lineman +Tavares King, Roger Lewis, and Orleans Darkwa at the skill positions. Just maybe.
  14. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    What a well thought out, supported argument - as usual. They suck so bad that demigod Wentz couldn’t even top 200 yards against them right? I forgot why you were on the ignore list ... thanks for the reminder(s). Absolute waste of time. [you can keep quoting me if it makes you feel better]
  15. New York Giants 2018 Season Outlook

    Not so bad until Odell and the team / receiving corp literally fell apart: “Eli sucks homer!” (26 is now Barkley ... good luck)