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  1. Andrew wiggins 2018-19 Season Outlook

    Talent? Or athleticism?
  2. 2018 NBA Offseason and Free Agency Thread

    The trade deadline is before ASB. Also, them waiting that long likely means the offers won't be as good as now (2 month rental vs. full season rental).
  3. Warriors Legacy?

    Great post, hit the nail on the head. Adding to what you said about this team feeling different, I agree. Never have I seen a team so confident in their game plan of wearing an opponent down. They are confident every time that no one can keep up with them over 48 minutes, over a 7 game series. Time and time again, they are proven right. This team plays the game within the game better than any team I've ever seen. Credit a lot of that to Kerr and his experience with the Bulls teams. He's seen every situation. I also agree that the Warriors didn't play up to their ability these playoffs. They had a bunch of injuries and Steph had basically missed 6 weeks of action before being thrown into playoff basketball. It took a while for the team to get the rhythm back, but it wasn't all the way back IMO. It's no surprise that the Warriors were the best 3rd quarter team is history. Sure some of it is because of complacency in the first half, but a lot of it is them just outlasting other teams. Their style of play makes you work on both ends with consistent player and ball movement on offense, and forcing teams to ISO more than they'd like on the other end with all their switching on defense. Talent goes a long way in trying to build a strong team. But throwing talent together doesn't guarantee anything. We've seen plenty of stacked teams just not work because of many factors. Fit has to be there, and everyone has to be willing to sacrifice (to different degrees). None of this works if Steph says "this is my team, we don't need KD", or Klay says "I don't want to be a third option". You have to give credit to great players who are willing to sacrifice for the betterment of the team. These guys truly value winning and their actions show that. I can't think of another team who was this good (or close to it) that was this unselfish from top to bottom, it's just so rare.
  4. NBA Playoffs Talk

    Rondo shot 27.7% from corner 3s in the regular season. (source: https://stats.nba.com/players/shooting/?Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular Season&DistanceRange=By Zone&PerMode=Totals&TeamID=1610612740&sort=Left Corner 3 FGA&dir=1)
  5. NBA Playoffs Talk

  6. Anthony Davis Season Outlook 2017-2018

    Anthony Day-to-dayvis strikes again
  7. Anthony Davis Season Outlook 2017-2018

    Insane third quarter
  8. Anthony Davis Season Outlook 2017-2018

    Anthony Day-to-dayvis
  9. Lonzo Ball 2017-2018 Season Outlook

    Alright Tommy, tell me what your crystal ball tells us about how Rondo would've played in today's NBA. Literally no one was trying to project how Rondo would play today and then compare that version of him to Lonzo. You're the only one doing that. The rebounding numbers you posted were misleading, first off. Second, you actually can compare the rebounding numbers once you adjust for pace. This is not the same as comparing threes from different eras since threes are of higher emphasis today that previous eras. But as I mentioned before, I am not comparing two like shooters (in my opinion at least - based on what I've seen). If I was comparing two good shooters from different eras (and volume was the only difference), I'd get your point. But I am comparing a guy who's been a reluctant shooter his whole career to one that isn't. Volume is just one part of it, eye test is another. I'm sure it won't be long until everyone agrees that Lonzo is a better shooter than Rondo, surprised it's still even a discussion.
  10. Lonzo Ball 2017-2018 Season Outlook

    That's irrelevant though. People compared him to what Rondo has done, not what he would've done in his prime today. It's clear that comparison is off based on style of play. And if you've watched Rondo play, he's been a reluctant shooter his whole career. Even when players shot less threes a few years ago, few were as reluctant as Rondo to shoot when open. Lonzo is only 19 but has shown a level of willingness to shoot that Rondo never has. Again, I am only comparing to what Rondo has actually done. Volume obviously matters when comparison play styles. Markkanen's 3 point record is impressive and means he's a really good shooter. Obviously it doesn't mean that he's the best shooter ever, but if you can hit 3 at a high rate while shooting a lot of threes, it means you are a good shooter. Funny that you said I shouldn't compare player's threes from today to a few years ago yet you are comparing today's game to the wild pace of that era you're referring to (way faster than today's game). When adjusting for pace, the numbers look quite different: Bill Russell - 12.2 Wilt Chamberlain - 12.0 Bob Pettit - 10.8 Source: https://doubledribble.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/nba-stars-of-1960s-pace-adjusted-stats/ But again, this isn't what I was arguing anyway. My main point was that the comparison of Lonzo to what Rondo has done (not what you think he would've done) was way off and anyone that's watched the two would agree. All that other stuff you're arguing is besides the point.
  11. Lonzo Ball 2017-2018 Season Outlook

    My point is, Rondo has never been a volume shooter in terms of makes or attempts. Even today he doesn't shoot that many threes. And I wasn't talking about simply percentage wise that Rondo has never done what Lonzo has done in his last 14 games. I was talking more about VOLUME. Lonzo has 38 threes made in 14 games on 89 attempts, Rondo has not come close to that many makes in a 14 game stretch. Even today when he shoots more than he did before, he has not come to that - attempts or makes. That's my point about the comparison to Rondo. Even if Rondo started his career in this era, I don't think he'd shoot the volume that Lonzo has or will. Making 1 three a game over a month is not comparable to making nearly 3 threes a game for 14 games, even if the percentage is similar. Also, the other major reason the Rondo comparison was terrible is because Rondo is a ball stopper a lot of times where as Lonzo is much more willing to give the ball up early. That on top of the volume shooting Lonzo brings (even if he isn't as good as he's shooting now), makes his game very different from Rondo's.
  12. Lonzo Ball 2017-2018 Season Outlook

    Said this back in July after people killed him because he was shooing like 20% from 3 on a bunch of attempts. People compared him to Rondo, but the comparison never made sense. In his last 14 games, Lonzo has shot 38/89 (42.7%) from 3, which converts to 2.7 made threes per game on 6.4 attempts. Rondo never had a stretch like that from three in his career. Not saying he's this good a shooter, but it's pretty clear that the people who thought he'd be like Rondo/couldn't shoot at all were way off with that assessment.