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  1. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Was there a opt out after the 5th season? That is pretty huge given he can get $150M over the next five and then become a free agent again at 31yrs old depending what the market is under the next CBA and how he's playing. Incentives and vesting options put the risk on the player - he got straight up 300M guaranteed money.
  2. Manny Machado 2019 Outlook

    Opt outs offered by teams are bananas - if the player is living up to their end of the contract they opt out for longer term and more guaranteed money and if they're underperforming they opt in and keep getting the money they are not earning.
  3. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Does Machado play SS in San Diego and thus bump Fernando Tatis Jr to 3B? Or does Manny play 3rd and FTJ stays at SS?
  4. Tyler Glasnow 2019 Outlook

    Better roto option than H2H as when he blows up, it is spectacular and will cost you the week's match-up. I LOVE him in TB org, but I HATE he's in the AL East - Yank and Boston are killers now, Toronto is coming back strong soon. Man, it's a conundrum. Also - I never knew he was this athletic - https://twitter.com/RaysBaseball/status/1095057472426070021
  5. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    I wouldn't be signing longer than the current CBA if I was a player, or an agent advising players. Severino's first year as a free agent and he's basically seen as past his prime - helluva system. Vlad Jr will be kept in minors because of "service time" - Jays admitting they want to flat out steal a prime year from Guerrero for a relative pittance - helluva system. Bring in a RFA system and have players become RFA's 5 years after they're drafted or at age 25yo which ever comes first. For this "give" by ownership, limit contract length to five years.
  6. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Guy at 1:31 is great - seeing him make the realization with his eyes like that, then he was a bit choked up meeting Judge and he had the great tooth gap line.
  7. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    I'd guess Justin Verlander because of Kate Upton main stream coverage though the answer would be "I don't know - what about the guy Kate Upton is married to - I don't know his name but know he's a baseball player - does that count?"..
  8. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Melvin is a nerd name. I mean "Mel" is fine, but Mel Gibson is never a star if he was Melvin Gibson. (Sorry to all the real life Melvin's here, but you already know this anyways)
  9. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    If Mike Ilitch was still alive I'd think it could be the Detroit Tigers. But Tigs have gone cheap since his passing. I imagine it has to be a bad team though - a non-contender making the offer otherwise why wouldn't MM have already accepted it? Because MM doesn't want to go there but wants to leverage their offer?
  10. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Yankees are the Yankees though. I think Bryce Harper in Southside of Chicago probably rockets up the team's value. Winning of course does it more. But again I think it goes back to MLB not knowing how to, or not wanting to, market it's stars. Lebron James added hundreds of millions of franchise value to the Cavs when he was there. Lakers are even more valuable now - as is his Nike deals, because he is in LA. Lebron is a stand alone brand and he leverages it. Bryce Harper should sign with Rich Paul and Klutch Sports Agency. Paul gets him to sign short term in LA with the Dodgers, and he connects him with James in the LA Media Market and helps create him as the next MLB mainstream star. Sign short term - get the bigger single season number than trying to get paid when you're in your down years. You gotta market yourself. Pro sports owners are going the NFL route where the team is the "star" so nobody is bigger than the team and brand which the owner owns. The players are interchangable cogs and that greatly diminishes their power. NBA goes the opposite direction and NBA owners get killed in respective CBA negotiations. Baseball players want to get paid silly money just for playing the game. It's their fault in a way that owners have realized that their play doesn't give enough VORP return. How much mainstream name value does "Mike Trout" have? "Mookie Betts"? "Clayton Kershaw"? I bet Justin Verlander is more known as Kate Upton's husband for crying out loud. Harper will still get "Lebron James" money with his next contract - 200M over five years is top level NBA and NFL money - that is James/Durant/Brady money. Baseball needs to become more culturally relevant to justify the money these players deluded themselves into thinking they deserve. Right now the live programming the game provides is all the value to the cable companies - it doesn't matter who is playing. Content, especially live content, is key.
  11. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    One major reason why baseball players salaries are maybe being limited - there are no stars. IN other sports players are cross media stars and sell tickets based on their off-field stardom. Baseball players - because MLB is so terrible at marketing it's great players - only really need to be paid based on - purely and coldly - their on-field production.
  12. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    There is way too much money in television deals now that gate attendance doens't matter a lick. Teams can rebuild ie owners horde money and pay lesser players less and they still get the same monies from their television deals. 2021 CBA is going to be a war because owners don't pay stars anymore because they don't need asses in the seats. If owners don't pay 30 yr olds anymore, players will demand then to be free agents much, much younger and get rid of the arbitration system. Right now owners get players legit prime years ridiculously cheaply, players went along with this system because they used to get silly money once they hit free agency. But owners are working the system by keeping elite prospects in the minors a year or more longer to delay their arbitration clock and thus delay the back end year they reach total free agency. So owners are stealing a year of their players prime money earning years right out of the gate. And then when the player now reaches free agency at 28-29 they're not rewarded for their time getting paid relatively nothing through arbitration anymore because they're now "too old" to invest big longterm monies in. Next CBA will totally overhaul the arbitration system, if not scrap it. Minor league service years will count towards some sort of restricted free agency 5 years after you signed your first MLB contract (or 25yrs old, which ever is earlier). So if you sign as a 17 yr old, you are a RFA when your 22yrs old - you sign out of college it's when you become 25yrs old. The team could match any offer sheet you sign - but you'll have a bidding war for the players services as a 22-25 yr old player.
  13. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Bad fantasy landing for Ramos. Ideally he would have landed in the AL where he could get 100 DH at bats extra a year. Not to mention the Mets training staff and Ramos injury penchant...
  14. 2018-19 Off-Season and Hot Stove Thread

    Jose Martinez needs to land in the AL so he can DH half his at bats at least. If he goes to the Dodgers he might get 300 at-bats... I'd like to see the Tigers get him and he and Miguel Cabrera could split 1B/DH duties to each bat over 500 times in the 3/4 slots.