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"Rangers.MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan reports any trade discussions the Texas Rangers have with the San Francisco Giants regarding pitching will begin with Rangers 3B Chris Davis. The Giants have told the Rangers they won't move SP Matt Cain or SP Tim Lincecum."

That was in his Yahoo! news and notes. Does anybody know what this is about or why the Rangers are trying to get rid of him?

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It was worded a bit ambiguously. The Giants are in need of 3B and 1B help (though Pablo Sandoval looks like a possible corner man probably at 1st) and with the Zito contract on the books, are probably out of the running for Mark Teixeira. I am assuming the article meant to imply SF would insist on Chris Davis being part of what they would get in any deal for some of their pitching, rather than Texas insisting to deal him away in any package.

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It was worded a bit ambiguously. The Giants are in need of 3B and 1B help (though Pablo Sandoval looks like a possible corner man probably at 1st) and with the Zito contract on the books, are probably out of the running for Mark Teixeira. I am assuming the article meant to imply SF would insist on Chris Davis being part of what they would get in any deal for some of their pitching, rather than Texas insisting to deal him away in any package.

Alright, thanks for the info. I got worried when I saw that. Going from Texas to SF would kill his value and I wouldn't be keeping him if he was dealt.

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Davis is somewhat expendable with the emergence of Ramirez, Salty, Teagarden, who hog up the C/1B slot. And I assume Blalock will still be playing 3rd. With that said, they could really use some pitching to complement their prospective offense. But Davis is no low level prospect, obviously. I can't see him getting dealt without pulling in a Lince or Cain... I'm thinking Sanchez at least.

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Davis is somewhat expendable with the emergence of Ramirez, Salty, Teagarden, who hog up the C/1B slot. And I assume Blalock will still be playing 3rd. With that said, they could really use some pitching to complement their prospective offense. But Davis is no low level prospect, obviously. I can't see him getting dealt without pulling in a Lince or Cain... I'm thinking Sanchez at least.

Davis is only 22, managed to shoot up 3 levels of ball and have dominant stretches at the major league level. There is no chance he is traded for a marginal commodity like Sanchez and next to no chance he is traded at all. The kid has superstar written all over him.

The Rangers have a relatively low payroll and a lot of young cheap hitting talent. They should trade guys like Laird, Young, Blalock and maybe Salty and get some pitching prospects, overpay for a Sabathia/Sheets/Burnett, go hard for a sinkerballer like Lowe or Jason Jennings and take a chance on guys like Looper/Mussina/Oliver Perez.

They should not consider breaking up that young nucleus that could set records for offense.

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Yeah also the only reason that was said was because in the rangers mailbag (where fans get to ask this writer for the rangers) asked if we would trade anyone for Tim Lincecum or Matt cain and the guy replied with Chris Davis being involved no matter what because he is from that area. But yeah theres almost no way the Rangers will trade Davis and he will probably be at 3rd base next year if they decide to keep Blalock (which they probably will even though they shouldnt). But they will almost def. be trading Laird and Catalanotto and maybe even Salty so Davis is defiantly in the Rangers plans for the future.

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Yeah also the only reason that was said was because in the rangers mailbag (where fans get to ask this writer for the rangers) asked if we would trade anyone for Tim Lincecum or Matt cain and the guy replied with Chris Davis being involved no matter what because he is from that area. But yeah theres almost no way the Rangers will trade Davis and he will probably be at 3rd base next year if they decide to keep Blalock (which they probably will even though they shouldnt). But they will almost def. be trading Laird and Catalanotto and maybe even Salty so Davis is defiantly in the Rangers plans for the future.

No way the Giants trade Lincecum or Cain. Lincecum is just plain untouchable (I wouldn't trade him straight up for ANY player in MLB with Ryan Braun being the only player that would make me think about it) and Cain is not worth trading because his value is so low. The Giants know that Cain is better than what he's showing so why would they sell low on a potential ace. I would love a Chris Davis for Jonathan Sanchez deal but doubt it's possible.

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and Cain is not worth trading because his value is so low.

Sorry, I just spit coffee all over the monitor and keyboard...one sec.....

Cain's value is LOW? In Fantasy maybe...but in real life baseball? In Cain you have a 23-year old that never misses a start, K's almost 1 per 9 and would be a VERY valuable No. 2 anywhere it seems besides SF.

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No way the Giants trade Lincecum or Cain. Lincecum is just plain untouchable (I wouldn't trade him straight up for ANY player in MLB with Ryan Braun being the only player that would make me think about it) and Cain is not worth trading because his value is so low. The Giants know that Cain is better than what he's showing so why would they sell low on a potential ace. I would love a Chris Davis for Jonathan Sanchez deal but doubt it's possible.

Yes I know they would both be almost untouchable but I meant that the guy that sent the email to the writer for the rangesr had said that the only way the rangers trade Davis is with a package for Lincecum or Cain both of which would be almost impossible to get. He went on to say that a package of like Elvis Andrus Chris Davis and a pitcher would have to be sent to San Fran to get talks going but again this was all speculation by the writer and we both know the Rangers wouldnt trade Davis and San Fran wouldnt trade Lincecum or Cain. Ill see if i can find the article

What do you think about the Rangers going after starting pitcher Matt Cain? He has dominating stuff but has always lacked run support. With the Rangers' offense backing him up, he would really help the club's pitching and possibly get 20 wins next season.

-- Cassity J., Longview, Texas

Cain is a good name to bring up, no doubt about it. The Giants do need offense. It's interesting that someone from Longview would ask that question because if you want the Giants to trade Cain, they will want Longview native Chris Davis, Elvus Andrus and more in return. You would not get Cain without including Davis in the deal.

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Davis is only 22, managed to shoot up 3 levels of ball and have dominant stretches at the major league level. There is no chance he is traded for a marginal commodity like Sanchez and next to no chance he is traded at all. The kid has superstar written all over him.

The Rangers have a relatively low payroll and a lot of young cheap hitting talent. They should trade guys like Laird, Young, Blalock and maybe Salty and get some pitching prospects, overpay for a Sabathia/Sheets/Burnett, go hard for a sinkerballer like Lowe or Jason Jennings and take a chance on guys like Looper/Mussina/Oliver Perez.

They should not consider breaking up that young nucleus that could set records for offense.

Oliver Perez has to be in the same category as Sabathia, Sheets and Burnett, not Looper and Mussina. He is 27, and will command a contract closer to what Sheets will get than what Looper or Mussina will get. If the Rangers end up getting Sabathia and Perez, they will have around 30 million per year tied up in those two pitchers.

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Im pretty sure the rangers wont be signed a pitcher during the offseason. Yes they have the money but who is going to want to pitch in Arlington? CC would be a good fit since he is a lefty and Oliver Perez may be good but I dont seem them paying for Ben Sheets or Dempster. That and Tom hicks (the owner) does not like to give out a ton of money for pitchers apparently after Chan Ho Parks disasterous stint with the Rangers.

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Im pretty sure the rangers wont be signed a pitcher during the offseason. Yes they have the money but who is going to want to pitch in Arlington? CC would be a good fit since he is a lefty and Oliver Perez may be good but I dont seem them paying for Ben Sheets or Dempster. That and Tom hicks (the owner) does not like to give out a ton of money for pitchers apparently after Chan Ho Parks disasterous stint with the Rangers.

arlington's an awful place for pitchers, but i think it's a lot better when you're with the rangers and not against them

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Oliver Perez has to be in the same category as Sabathia, Sheets and Burnett,

I'm really not trying to be rude....That said. If Oliver Perez gets a contract even remotely close to that of Sabathia, Sheets or Burnett from a team OTHER than the Mets, I will sh*t.

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Call me crazy, but I would trade Lincecum for Davis in a heartbeat. A corner outfielder who can destroy the ball is much more valuable than a short starter who tries to throw it 100mph.

That is, I'd take a guy who not only plays every day vs someone who plays every 5, but I trade high risk for low risk any day.

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Call me crazy, but I would trade Lincecum for Davis in a heartbeat. A corner outfielder who can destroy the ball is much more valuable than a short starter who tries to throw it 100mph.

That is, I'd take a guy who not only plays every day vs someone who plays every 5, but I trade high risk for low risk any day.

you're crazy

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This guy is gonna be a fantasy superstar by the end of 2010. He's Ryan Howard Jr. I just hope TEX realizes it and bats him no worse than 6th next year.

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Call me crazy, but I would trade Lincecum for Davis in a heartbeat. A corner outfielder who can destroy the ball is much more valuable than a short starter who tries to throw it 100mph.

That is, I'd take a guy who not only plays every day vs someone who plays every 5, but I trade high risk for low risk any day.

IMO lincecum has already established himself, a cy young caliber player for multiple years to come. I want to see Davis hit 35 plus bombs in a full season before i would consider it.

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IMO lincecum has already established himself, a cy young caliber player for multiple years to come. I want to see Davis hit 35 plus bombs in a full season before i would consider it.

IEO's Opinion. This should be of everyone's opinion. There is no denying that he is at the very least a top 10 pitcher right now in all of baseball and I would put him in the top 5. Haven't seen Davis play enough but he does seem legit, no way I would consider trading Lincecum for him however. Cain maybe.

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It amazes me how much you guys value pitchers compared to corner fielding, power hitters.

I predict Lincecum succumbs to serious injury within two years.

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It amazes me how much you guys value pitchers compared to corner fielding, power hitters.

I predict Lincecum succumbs to serious injury within two years.

You're right, a guy who has an OPS of 860 in a half season should definitely be worth more than the NL Cy Young Award winner.

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It amazes me how much you guys value pitchers compared to corner fielding, power hitters.

I predict Lincecum succumbs to serious injury within two years.

dude....seriously?

You have noticed the sheer dominance that Lincecum has exhibited right? You are doing your credibility a disservice by lumping him into some generic basket called "pitchers."

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You're right, a guy who has an OPS of 860 in a half season should definitely be worth more than the NL Cy Young Award winner.

Thanks for agreeing.

You probably would've called me an idiot if I had said trade Bedard to the Mariners for Adam Jones straight up.

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Thanks for agreeing.

You probably would've called me an idiot if I had said trade Bedard to the Mariners for Adam Jones straight up.

I would call you an idiot for comparing Erik Bedard to Tim Lincecum.

Also, great job on using hindsight to prove your point. Any trade will look awful when the player you traded for gets injured.

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I would call you an idiot for comparing Erik Bedard to Tim Lincecum.

Also, great job on using hindsight to prove your point. Any trade will look awful when the player you traded for gets injured.

You should really stop making sense, it's getting on my nerves.

OnTopic - I'll probably reach a bit in drafts next year for Davis. I don't want to miss out if he becomes next year's breakout.

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You should really stop making sense, it's getting on my nerves.

OnTopic - I'll probably reach a bit in drafts next year for Davis. I don't want to miss out if he becomes next year's breakout.

Yeah, that's the funny thing, I'm f___ing burying Chris Davis in this thread, but I have the guy on one of my teams and will also be trying to get him on my squads next year.

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