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Super8 is E.T. part 2

Good movie though.

Really enjoyed the first 102 minutes and the last 10 were underwhelming. Definitely enjoyed it though.

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Thought Hangover 2 was alright. They tried too hard. It was funny, but I didn't like it as much as the first one.

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Just a phenomenal movie. Loved it all. Great ending too. Love how they explained things.

I might put it behind Dark Knight in 2nd.

Allow me to wax film critic for a min - the Batman movies (for the most part, forgiving Nipplegate) are solid because the Batman character is realistic. Don't get me wrong, I love the Marvel Universe, but the writing of these characters puts them behind the eight-ball on believability - not because their powers are too outlandish (although in some cases, yes), but because they have no depth as characters. The only likable character in the X-men movie was Magneto, and even then it was because he depicted to the allegorical themes they were rubbing your nose in it the whole movie like a dog in his own mess. (Btw - I love Michael Fossbender as he totally made the movie, but...casting the most German guy you can find as a Jew? Huh?) They made Professor X a know-it-all rich kid who doesn't even really care that much for his own kind, Mystique came off as whiny, and the other characters you just don't care about at all. Oh, and if I have to look at another blue Mr. Mistoffelees for Beast, I'm out.

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Saw X-men: First class last night.

Pretty good movie. For some reason, i wasn't digging Kevin Bacon in the flick though.

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Saw X-men: First class last night.

Pretty good movie. For some reason, i wasn't digging Kevin Bacon in the flick though.

He grew, but I agree. Kevin Bacon is always Kevin Bacon to me.

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No desire to see the new Transformer flick whatsoever...after the first one, it was all down hill.

But on a side note...I've stocked up on crazy amounts of movie tickets for cheap through those deal websites. I have about 8 AMC tickets and 6 fandango codes ready for the surge of summer movies.

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Saw X-men: First class last night.

Pretty good movie. For some reason, i wasn't digging Kevin Bacon in the flick though.

I saw this last week. Good, solid superhero flick. I put in on par with the first X-men or Blade. Fassbender was very good and despite me wondering every time I see him how he gets the leads in films, McAvoy is an engaging lead in some stories. He was solid. I disagree with Bacon. He's great and Sebastian Shaw is an outstanding character, I hope they didn't kill him off.

I saw no reason for Rose Byrne to be in the film, but hey, she's nice to look at. Her character was ridiculous fluff. I didn't like what they did with Mystique either. Lawrence came off as whiny and boring. Also, after the set up of this movie (supposed to be a prequel), are we supposed to buy that Mystique broke into the mansion and tried to kill Professor X in later movies after he was a surrogate brother? Very lazy. That said, the three leads delivered in this one and it was very solid with a fun plot line.

I also saw Super8. I liked it, but I didn't love it. Nostalgia is a powerful thing but while I enjoyed the kid's banter (not nearly as strong as say Goonies) and the whole time period, the sentimentality of Abrams' direction fell very short of Spielberg. Abrams' is great when dealing with sci-fi and technical portion but the Father/son relationship and father/daughter relationship was unaffecting. Still a fun, little, coming of age movie but not special like ET or Stand by Me.....

I'll go see the Transformers flick if it's the story I've read about. Basically, more robot invasion, less Shia and his family and less racist robots. Hopefully Bay understands now that Shia isn't the hero of the movie, Optimus Prime is......Still, just a matinee at best for me.....Anyone see Green Lantern? It got slaughtered by the critics (not surprising)....

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I saw this last week. Good, solid superhero flick. I put in on par with the first X-men or Blade. Fassbender was very good and despite me wondering every time I see him how he gets the leads in films, McAvoy is an engaging lead in some stories. He was solid. I disagree with Bacon. He's great and Sebastian Shaw is an outstanding character, I hope they didn't kill him off.

I saw no reason for Rose Byrne to be in the film, but hey, she's nice to look at. Her character was ridiculous fluff. I didn't like what they did with Mystique either. Lawrence came off as whiny and boring. Also, after the set up of this movie (supposed to be a prequel), are we supposed to buy that Mystique broke into the mansion and tried to kill Professor X in later movies after he was a surrogate brother? Very lazy. That said, the three leads delivered in this one and it was very solid with a fun plot line.

I also saw Super8. I liked it, but I didn't love it. Nostalgia is a powerful thing but while I enjoyed the kid's banter (not nearly as strong as say Goonies) and the whole time period, the sentimentality of Abrams' direction fell very short of Spielberg. Abrams' is great when dealing with sci-fi and technical portion but the Father/son relationship and father/daughter relationship was unaffecting. Still a fun, little, coming of age movie but not special like ET or Stand by Me.....

I'll go see the Transformers flick if it's the story I've read about. Basically, more robot invasion, less Shia and his family and less racist robots. Hopefully Bay understands now that Shia isn't the hero of the movie, Optimus Prime is......Still, just a matinee at best for me.....Anyone see Green Lantern? It got slaughtered by the critics (not surprising)....

No way I see Lantern, and that's saying a lot because Reynolds is my favorite or second favorite actor. Just looks like a mega flop, plus I was never into lantern.

I'm going to rescind my comment about Bacon, because I thought more about it after I posted and it's true. His performance was great. I think my favorite part of the movie was

the explanation how Charles got to be in a wheelchair. So beautifully done and I did not expect it at all.

PB, you nailed it. The leads in the movie were excellent. Really enjoyed it.

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I saw this last week. Good, solid superhero flick. I put in on par with the first X-men or Blade. Fassbender was very good and despite me wondering every time I see him how he gets the leads in films, McAvoy is an engaging lead in some stories. He was solid. I disagree with Bacon. He's great and Sebastian Shaw is an outstanding character, I hope they didn't kill him off.

I saw no reason for Rose Byrne to be in the film, but hey, she's nice to look at. Her character was ridiculous fluff. I didn't like what they did with Mystique either. Lawrence came off as whiny and boring. Also, after the set up of this movie (supposed to be a prequel), are we supposed to buy that Mystique broke into the mansion and tried to kill Professor X in later movies after he was a surrogate brother? Very lazy. That said, the three leads delivered in this one and it was very solid with a fun plot line.

I also saw Super8. I liked it, but I didn't love it. Nostalgia is a powerful thing but while I enjoyed the kid's banter (not nearly as strong as say Goonies) and the whole time period, the sentimentality of Abrams' direction fell very short of Spielberg. Abrams' is great when dealing with sci-fi and technical portion but the Father/son relationship and father/daughter relationship was unaffecting. Still a fun, little, coming of age movie but not special like ET or Stand by Me.....

I'll go see the Transformers flick if it's the story I've read about. Basically, more robot invasion, less Shia and his family and less racist robots. Hopefully Bay understands now that Shia isn't the hero of the movie, Optimus Prime is......Still, just a matinee at best for me.....Anyone see Green Lantern? It got slaughtered by the critics (not surprising)....

im pretty sure its a reboot in addition to a prequel... so we should sorta disregard most of the stuff we knew from the other xmens

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im pretty sure its a reboot in addition to a prequel... so we should sorta disregard most of the stuff we knew from the other xmens

Oh, I agree. Without getting too geeky, X-men: First Class doesn't even have half the characters that it's based on, it's just a title to Singer. However, it's odd to reboot a series with the same producer (Bryan Singer, and director for a time) and totally ignore any continuity of the first couple of movies (we can all pretend that X3 didn't happen). Just a strange lapse, that's all. It's not like what Abrams did with Star Trek, to create a whole new timeline and universe. They just sort don't care what they did with the characters, probably why so many comic book geeks hated the movie. I liked it though.

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Oh, I agree. Without getting too geeky, X-men: First Class doesn't even have half the characters that it's based on, it's just a title to Singer. However, it's odd to reboot a series with the same producer (Bryan Singer, and director for a time) and totally ignore any continuity of the first couple of movies (we can all pretend that X3 didn't happen). Just a strange lapse, that's all. It's not like what Abrams did with Star Trek, to create a whole new timeline and universe. They just sort don't care what they did with the characters, probably why so many comic book geeks hated the movie. I liked it though.

No. No we can't pretend like X3 never happened.

I have never been so let down in my entire life. Good thing Spidey 3 came along to compete with it.

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No. No we can't pretend like X3 never happened.

I have never been so let down in my entire life. Good thing Spidey 3 came along to compete with it.

Is it weird that I enjoyed Spidey 3? I took it as a pure popcorn movie and wasn't disappointed. I know I'm definitely one of the few in that category, though. B)

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Is it weird that I enjoyed Spidey 3? I took it as a pure popcorn movie and wasn't disappointed. I know I'm definitely one of the few in that category, though. B)

Just so much untapped potential with Venom. Such a let down.

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Just so much untapped potential with Venom. Such a let down.

Same illness all Superhero movies fall victim to -- too many bad guys. Unless your doing a team vs. team thing (X-men), you should never have more than 1.5 main villains. After that, the spectacle becomes too much and no character development (what little there is in Super movies)*. See:

Batman Forever

Batman Whatever (The one with Clooney)

Spiderman 3

Wolverine

As examples. This is why I'm slightly concerned about The Dark Knight Rises. Everytime I turn around, Nolan is casting a new name actor who is supposed to be a baddie. Still, he's earned the rope so we'll see. But 2 or more main baddies, it's sure to suck.

* This rule doesn't apply to henchmen, evil non-super crime bosses, greedy corporate sell-outs (see: Chris Walken in Batman Returns), or of course wildcards (Catwoman, Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight, Lex Luthor in Superman II, etc.)

Thank you for your attention.

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Same illness all Superhero movies fall victim to -- too many bad guys. Unless your doing a team vs. team thing (X-men), you should never have more than 1.5 main villains. After that, the spectacle becomes too much and no character development (what little there is in Super movies)*. See:

Batman Forever

Batman Whatever (The one with Clooney)

Spiderman 3

Wolverine

As examples. This is why I'm slightly concerned about The Dark Knight Rises. Everytime I turn around, Nolan is casting a new name actor who is supposed to be a baddie. Still, he's earned the rope so we'll see. But 2 or more main baddies, it's sure to suck.

* This rule doesn't apply to henchmen, evil non-super crime bosses, greedy corporate sell-outs (see: Chris Walken in Batman Returns), or of course wildcards (Catwoman, Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight, Lex Luthor in Superman II, etc.)

Thank you for your attention.

How dare you even state the thought of doubting Chris Nolan?! B)

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How dare you even state the thought of doubting Chris Nolan?! :)

I know. I know, right? Guy is simply at the top of his game. I'll trust him but man if he casts Bane, Catwoman (wildcard), and Talia al-Ghul along with the other baddies already on board (Matthew Modine -- random, and some other bad mob guy), then we're entering unmovable object vs unstoppable force area...... B) It should still be great....

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Same illness all Superhero movies fall victim to -- too many bad guys. Unless your doing a team vs. team thing (X-men), you should never have more than 1.5 main villains. After that, the spectacle becomes too much and no character development (what little there is in Super movies)*. See:

Batman Forever

Batman Whatever (The one with Clooney)

Spiderman 3

Wolverine

As examples. This is why I'm slightly concerned about The Dark Knight Rises. Everytime I turn around, Nolan is casting a new name actor who is supposed to be a baddie. Still, he's earned the rope so we'll see. But 2 or more main baddies, it's sure to suck.

* This rule doesn't apply to henchmen, evil non-super crime bosses, greedy corporate sell-outs (see: Chris Walken in Batman Returns), or of course wildcards (Catwoman, Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight, Lex Luthor in Superman II, etc.)

Thank you for your attention.

batman begins had 3 bad guys and i thought it thrived that way.

- ras al ghul

- scarecrow

- carmine falcone

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batman begins had 3 bad guys and i thought it thrived that way.

- ras al ghul

- scarecrow

- carmine falcone

Read the fine print, my good man. Falcone is a non-super crime boss, just your run of the mill mafia. Ras al-ghul is a wildcard (he's a mentor to Bruce and only at the end, after trying to recruit him, does he betray him). He's not in the movie for over an hour and only a bad guy for about 20 minutes (much like Two Face in The Dark Knight). You could make the case that he's the ultimate baddie, but then that would reduce Scarecrow to henchmen. And I agree, Batman Begins is a great superhero movie. Weigh that against either of the Batman examples: Forever has The Riddler and Two-Face. That movie is at least watchable b/c Carrey is in his prime. Batman Whatever has Dr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, and Bane (who really is just a henchman).

Any Transformers reports?

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Read the fine print, my good man. Falcone is a non-super crime boss, just your run of the mill mafia. Ras al-ghul is a wildcard (he's a mentor to Bruce and only at the end, after trying to recruit him, does he betray him). He's not in the movie for over an hour and only a bad guy for about 20 minutes (much like Two Face in The Dark Knight). You could make the case that he's the ultimate baddie, but then that would reduce Scarecrow to henchmen. And I agree, Batman Begins is a great superhero movie. Weigh that against either of the Batman examples: Forever has The Riddler and Two-Face. That movie is at least watchable b/c Carrey is in his prime. Batman Whatever has Dr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, and Bane (who really is just a henchman).

Any Transformers reports?

I'm gonna try and get out to it this weekend. Well see.

Oh and I absolutely loved Carrey as the Riddler.

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Read the fine print, my good man. Falcone is a non-super crime boss, just your run of the mill mafia. Ras al-ghul is a wildcard (he's a mentor to Bruce and only at the end, after trying to recruit him, does he betray him). He's not in the movie for over an hour and only a bad guy for about 20 minutes (much like Two Face in The Dark Knight). You could make the case that he's the ultimate baddie, but then that would reduce Scarecrow to henchmen. And I agree, Batman Begins is a great superhero movie. Weigh that against either of the Batman examples: Forever has The Riddler and Two-Face. That movie is at least watchable b/c Carrey is in his prime. Batman Whatever has Dr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, and Bane (who really is just a henchman).

Any Transformers reports?

true. true.

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Watched Transformer last night. It was long and basically the same as all the other transformer movies.

I was that impressed. Action scenes were pretty cool..

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Okay, caught Green Lantern. So depressed. It was Spiderman3/Fantastic Four bad. Loved Green Lantern growing up and it could have been so cool. It did get some things right. Ryan Reynolds could have pulled it off. Peter Sarsgaard was great and the best part of the movie. He needed more screen time. CGI scenes were done pretty well considering their are a lot of aliens in the GL world. Blake Lively is nice to look at.

But man did it get a lot of things wrong. When dealing with a "2nd tier" superhero and trying to build an audience, you don't have the main baddie be a formless smoke monster look-a-like. You make it a humanoid of some kind that an audience can identify with. Too many bad guys, should have cut out Parallax altogether. The script was aimless jumping all around and it didn't really have a cohesive story. It doesn't have to be a great story but it does need some form. It wasn't funny. Ryan Reynolds is a halfway funny dude. Superhero films can have some chuckles. This tried hard but had none. Really the actors were game, the script sucked out loud and was very, very disappointed with the director, Martin Campbell. Campbell has done some good big budget work including Casino Royale, GoldenEye, and the first Zorro film. He did a terrible job here.....If you like the effects, go see a matinee like I did. Otherwise, wait for PPV......

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Saw Super 8 and thought it was great. Hangover 2 was terrible.

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Saw Super 8 and thought it was great. Hangover 2 was terrible.

Didn't think Super 8 would be any good, and the original Hangover was better i heard.

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