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The Rules are Simple!

- If you want to participate, just reply to this thread with the player you think should be ranked next on the draft list

- Rank the nba players based on a Single-Season, Traditional 9-catagory Fantasy League (either H2H or Roto)

- Each player needs 5 votes to be ranked (1-36), 4 votes to be ranked (37-84), and 3 votes to be ranked (84+)

- If you are the final deciding voter for a particular player, it's your duty to start the next thread, name it "#2" or "#18" or whichever # the NEXT pick is. in the body of the thread, copy/paste these directions along with an updated rankings list!

- You can vote ON BEHALF of others! Just cite a previous thread where any member voted for a player, and you can carry over thier vote to make the process faster! (please be specific when doing this). This also means you should be careful who you vote for, any of your votes can be quoted and used against you later!

1. Shawn Marion

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Kevin Garnett

4. LeBron James

5. Gilbert Arenas

6. Dirk Nowitzki

7. Steve Nash

8. Amare Stoudemire

9. Yao Ming

10. Dwyane Wade

11. Pau Gasol

12. Tim Duncan

13. Jason Kidd

14. Chris Paul

15. Josh Smith

16. Rashard Lewis

17. Chris Bosh

18. Allen Iverson

19. Vince Carter

20. Paul Pierce

21. Ray Allen

22. Marcus Camby

23. Andre Iguodala

24. Tracy McGrady

25. Chauncey Billups

26. Deron Williams

27. Caron Butler

28. Michael Redd

29. Gerald Wallace

30. Carlos Boozer

31. Joe Johnson

32. Carmelo Anthony

33. Josh Howard

34. Kirk Hinrich

35. Dwight Howard

36. Al Jefferson

37. Jermaine O'Neal

38. Baron Davis

39. Antawn Jamison

40. Jason Richardson

41. Emeka Okafor

42. Kevin Martin

43. Luol Deng

44. Brandon Roy

45. Leandro Barbosa

46. Manu Ginobli

47. Mike Miller

48. Mehmet Okur

49. Ron Artest

50. Tyson Chandler

51. Tony Parker

52. Kevin Durant

53. Jason Terry

54. Raymond Felton

55. Lamar Odom

56. Rasheed Wallace

57. David West

58. Ben Gordon

59. Mike Bibby

60. Ricky Davis

61. Mo Williams

62. LaMarcus Aldridge

63. Corey Maggette

64. AK47

65. Monta Ellis

66. Samuel Dalembert

67. Richard Jefferson

68. TJ Ford

69. Andre Miller

70. Rip Hamilton

71. Shane Battier

72. Al Harrington

73. Starbury

74. Granger

75. Randy Foye

76. Zach Randolph

77. Ben Wallace

78. ??

Andres Bierdrins - 3 (Yaz, Rando, cesquinho)

Josh Childress- 2 (7331T, markdash)

David Lee - 2 (jpug, csquared)

Rudy Gay- 2 (thefantasyczar, willj)

Luis Scola- 1 (gorocketsgo)

Delonte West - 1 (teamshameless)

Rajon Rondo - 3 (acton00, nickyd82, ionka)

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I'm going for Delonte West here. The Sonics are going to be desperate for back court D and he is the only person who can play it. Plus, Ridnour or Watson will be gone by January which will free up time at pg for him. Wally is going to be a non issue IMO. I'd be surprised if he also wasn't gone by January.

Delonte West

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I'll get on board the Rajon Rondo train. As much as I think he'll struggle at times keeping 3 superstars happy, he's still gonna get plenty of minutes.

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Ummh ... i will go with Biedrins too.

I would consider Delonte West, Josh Childress, Jarrett Jack and Anthony Parker if they didn't have so many players in their positions competing for minutes. You could argue all of them can be worthy of this spot, but Biedrins has very few competition on his team compared to the others, so although i don't trust Don Nelson's boys much due to inconsistent playing time, i think it's a safer bet than most.

Andris Biedrins.

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Ummh ... i will go with Biedrins too.

I would consider Delonte West, Josh Childress, Jarrett Jack and Anthony Parker if they didn't have so many players in their positions competing for minutes. You could argue all of them can be worthy of this spot, but Biedrins has very few competition on his team compared to the others, so although i don't trust Don Nelson's boys much due to inconsistent playing time, i think it's a safer bet than most.

Andris Biedrins.

Nelson loves Bierdrins...the only reason why his game log showed 20 minute games some nights, was b/c of foul trouble.

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As far as i can remember there was some games in which Nelson started Al Harrington at C and Biedrins came off the bench logging no more than 25 minutes for the night.

I can't remember if this was only in the play offs or happened in the regular season as well, and can't tell how many games did this happen, but i'm pretty sure it did.

Nelson is unpredictable from night to night, and i'd say that the only player who is a sure thing in Golden State is, when not injured, Baron Davis, so i will probably stay away from most Warriors' players, unless they fall too far in the draft.

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Please see Biedrins stats for April after Harrington had fully been integrated into the offense. They are pretty disturbing.

For 9 games in April

21:41 minutes a game 4.6 points 6.6 rebounds .8 assists .9 blocks

Now, I am not a Golden State fan and there may have been injury factors, fouls, etc. but 9 games is a fairly large sample for me to look at and this was during their stretch run when they were fighting to make the playoffs. But 9 games? Not good.

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As far as i can remember there was some games in which Nelson started Al Harrington at C and Biedrins came off the bench logging no more than 25 minutes for the night.

I can't remember if this was only in the play offs or happened in the regular season as well, and can't tell how many games did this happen, but i'm pretty sure it did.

Nelson is unpredictable from night to night, and i'd say that the only player who is a sure thing in Golden State is, when not injured, Baron Davis, so i will probably stay away from most Warriors' players, unless they fall too far in the draft.

Nelson did that on nights where Bierdrins was going up against a great offensive center, who could get him in quick foul trouble. Then, he still would always get into foul trouble - thus the low minutes. I agree that Nelson is unpredictable when it comes to PT. But I feel confident in saying that B-Diddy(35), Monta(35), and Bierdrins(32) will be his regulars...

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Josh Childress!

(OMG, 7331T and I agreed on something)

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Please see Biedrins stats for April after Harrington had fully been integrated into the offense. They are pretty disturbing.

For 9 games in April

21:41 minutes a game 4.6 points 6.6 rebounds .8 assists .9 blocks

Now, I am not a Golden State fan and there may have been injury factors, fouls, etc. but 9 games is a fairly large sample for me to look at and this was during their stretch run when they were fighting to make the playoffs. But 9 games? Not good.

And the trend continued in the play offs (11 games):

24.1 minutes a game 6.4 points, 6.3 rebounds, 0.5 assists, 1.5 blocks

I don't think he will be reduced to this next year, but i'm still not that sold on him.

Anyway, as i said, many players that i could consider at this point have some issues too, so why not roll the dice in a young, promising center?

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Please see Biedrins stats for April after Harrington had fully been integrated into the offense. They are pretty disturbing.

For 9 games in April

21:41 minutes a game 4.6 points 6.6 rebounds .8 assists .9 blocks

Now, I am not a Golden State fan and there may have been injury factors, fouls, etc. but 9 games is a fairly large sample for me to look at and this was during their stretch run when they were fighting to make the playoffs. But 9 games? Not good.

I remember it being mentioned that Bierdins was worn down, and that was also a factor in the reduced minutes at the end/playoffs. Was basically a step slower than earlier in the year. Granted, thats not a good sign that a player cant last 90 games....but he is young, and should have increased endurance year 2.

I forgot about Harrington before...he should be a reg in that rotation for 32 mpg as well....They have a really nice little team (if Davis stays healthy)

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I remember it being mentioned that Bierdins was worn down, and that was also a factor in the reduced minutes at the end/playoffs. Was basically a step slower than earlier in the year. Granted, thats not a good sign that a player cant last 90 games....but he is young, and should have increased endurance year 2.

Except it's not year 2, it's year 4.

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Except it's not year 2, it's year 4.

year 2 - as a starter....he played 13mpg 04 and 05....

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