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The Rules are Simple!

- If you want to participate, just reply to this thread with the player you think should be ranked next on the draft list

- Rank the nba players based on a Single-Season, Traditional 9-catagory Fantasy League (either H2H or Roto)

- Each player needs 5 votes to be ranked (1-36), 4 votes to be ranked (37-84), and 3 votes to be ranked (84+)

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1. Shawn Marion

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Kevin Garnett

4. LeBron James

5. Gilbert Arenas

6. Dirk Nowitzki

7. Steve Nash

8. Amare Stoudemire

9. Yao Ming

10. Dwyane Wade

11. Pau Gasol

12. Tim Duncan

13. Jason Kidd

14. Chris Paul

15. Josh Smith

16. Rashard Lewis

17. Chris Bosh

18. Allen Iverson

19. Vince Carter

20. Paul Pierce

21. Ray Allen

22. Marcus Camby

23. Andre Iguodala

24. Tracy McGrady

25. Chauncey Billups

26. Deron Williams

27. Caron Butler

28. Michael Redd

29. Gerald Wallace

30. Carlos Boozer

31. Joe Johnson

32. Carmelo Anthony

33. Josh Howard

34. Kirk Hinrich

35. Dwight Howard

36. Al Jefferson

37. Jermaine O'Neal

38. Baron Davis

39. Antawn Jamison

40. Jason Richardson

41. Emeka Okafor

42. Kevin Martin

43. Luol Deng

44. Brandon Roy

45. Leandro Barbosa

46. Manu Ginobli

47. Mike Miller

48. Mehmet Okur

49. Ron Artest

50. Tyson Chandler

51. Tony Parker

52. Kevin Durant

53. Jason Terry

54. Raymond Felton

55. Lamar Odom

56. Rasheed Wallace

57. David West

58. Ben Gordon

59. Mike Bibby

60. Ricky Davis

61. Mo Williams

62. LaMarcus Aldridge

63. Corey Maggette

64. AK47

65. Monta Ellis

66. Samuel Dalembert

67. Richard Jefferson

68. TJ Ford

69. Andre Miller

70. Rip Hamilton

71. Shane Battier

72. Al Harrington

73. Starbury

74. Granger

75. Randy Foye

76. Zach Randolph

77. Ben Wallace

78. Rajon Rondo

79. Andris Biedrins

80. Rudy Gay

81. ??

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Josh Childress- 3 (7331T, markdash, rotoking07)

David Lee - 2 (jpug, csquared)

Brad Miller - 1 (nickyd82)

Nene - 1 (Yaz)

Delonte West - 1 (teamshameless)

Luis Scola- 1 (gorocketsgo)

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Kobe Bry----

Childress is still on the board here, people, listen to me!!

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I think Childress is clearly the best player on the board right now. It's just that he really isn't a 2 guard and neither is Josh Smith. Which of course is why I said Josh Smith was chosen too early. That team has crazy talent right now.

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I agree Childress should go soon but I think after an offseason of rest Brad Miller will regain most of his old form. If he does you're getting a #1 center near the end of the 7th round.

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I don't agree about a number 1 center because Brad's never had a number 1 Center season. He's had a couple 15-10 seasons with a three and ok FG %, but considering he's playing with the horrible Kings again this season that's dominated by me first Mike Bibby and Ron Arrest, then I'd say his numbers will continue to fall. He also hasn't proven to us that he can stay healthy recently, and with his "I want to shoot elbow jumpers" mentality, he'll never dominant in FG %. I don't know, I just like Childress ability to block a shot, get a 3, get a steal, 13 ppg, and 7-8 boards with a couple assists.

I'll just add that I'll consider Miller for the next spot, he does pass well for a big man.

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I agree Childress should go soon but I think after an offseason of rest Brad Miller will regain most of his old form. If he does you're getting a #1 center near the end of the 7th round.

Brad Miller looked very done last year. His body has broken down and his offensive role (high post offense) left with Rick Adelman.

He is just a slow, unathletic center now that can't block shots and is a poor rebounder. This is coming from a diehard Kings fan that has watched several games live and almost every game that Brad has played in a Kings uniform. Sorry, but I am not buying. Last year was not a fluke, but will now be the norm from him from here on out IMO.

Most of his value came from his assists as a C. He had other good stats, but they were areas that you could get elsewhere, but getting 3-4 assists from a C was gold. Since the offense no longer runs through him like it did when Adelman was coach, I just don't see his value returning. There is a reason the Kings drafted a Center in the first round. When they shifted from a high post offense and asked Brad to be a defensive player and regular rebounder, his deficiencies were glaring. I think his time as a starter from here on out could be limited unless Theus goes back to a high post offense that runs through Miller, which I don't see happening. He will never again be a #1 center. Maybe a fall back #2 or a bench option on a decent fantasy team. If you are forced to start him though, I think you will be in trouble fantasy wise.

I really wish that I could say otherwise as the Kings need him, but reality is what it is. He is an old 31 and has had some great seasons. It's pretty bad when your Olympic invite gets taken away.

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I agree Childress should go soon but I think after an offseason of rest Brad Miller will regain most of his old form. If he does you're getting a #1 center near the end of the 7th round.

I'd still take Big Z (who should be mentioned soon) over Miller.

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Brad Miller looked very done last year. His body has broken down and his offensive role (high post offense) left with Rick Adelman.

He is just a slow, unathletic center now that can't block shots and is a poor rebounder. This is coming from a diehard Kings fan that has watched several games live and almost every game that Brad has played in a Kings uniform. Sorry, but I am not buying. Last year was not a fluke, but will now be the norm from him from here on out IMO.

Most of his value came from his assists as a C. He had other good stats, but they were areas that you could get elsewhere, but getting 3-4 assists from a C was gold. Since the offense no longer runs through him like it did when Adelman was coach, I just don't see his value returning. There is a reason the Kings drafted a Center in the first round. When they shifted from a high post offense and asked Brad to be a defensive player and regular rebounder, his deficiencies were glaring. I think his time as a starter from here on out could be limited unless Theus goes back to a high post offense that runs through Miller, which I don't see happening. He will never again be a #1 center. Maybe a fall back #2 or a bench option on a decent fantasy team. If you are forced to start him though, I think you will be in trouble fantasy wise.

I really wish that I could say otherwise as the Kings need him, but reality is what it is. He is an old 31 and has had some great seasons. It's pretty bad when your Olympic invite gets taken away.

i agree....he used to be a fixture on my fantasy teams, but i cut bait last year after noticing him a step slower in 2005. Although he does contribute well in assists for a big man, the alarming steady decrease in rebounds since 2003 is too much to ignore....sell

great point on the offense not being run thru him anymore...another reason i cut ties last year...

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I don't agree about a number 1 center because Brad's never had a number 1 Center season. He's had a couple 15-10 seasons with a three and ok FG %, but considering he's playing with the horrible Kings again this season that's dominated by me first Mike Bibby and Ron Arrest, then I'd say his numbers will continue to fall. He also hasn't proven to us that he can stay healthy recently, and with his "I want to shoot elbow jumpers" mentality, he'll never dominant in FG %. I don't know, I just like Childress ability to block a shot, get a 3, get a steal, 13 ppg, and 7-8 boards with a couple assists.

I'll just add that I'll consider Miller for the next spot, he does pass well for a big man.

Brad was a #1 center option for fantasy teams for 3 seasons in a row. He made a couple of all-star teams and was clearly one of the top 5 Centers in the game in those years for accumulated stats. He was 15-10 (not a lot of C get this consistently), but he also got you crazy assists from the C spot, 1 steal and 1 block and was a top tier option. He just isn't anymore.

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I'll take Childress and move this thing along.

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After reconsidering all the facts y'all are probably right. Although I do expect something of a bounce back year from Miller. What about Nenad Krstic? Super sleeper or a year away after his injury?

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After reconsidering all the facts y'all are probably right. Although I do expect something of a bounce back year from Miller. What about Nenad Krstic? Super sleeper or a year away after his injury?

I was just thinking about him. I was looking at accumulated stats per game and he was up high on that list with most guys that have already been drafted. I took Tayshaun as my next pick looking at that same list, but I would definately take a healthy Krystic over Prince at this point in the draft just because of C status.

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