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David Wilson 2012 Season Outlook

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basically, reese cloned ahmad bradshaw and gave him 4.3 speed

jacobs is gone, bradshaw has problematic feet/ankles, dj ware defines mediocrity ... first round pick for a reason

should be a nice flier in fantasy drafts this year

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how so? miami's offense is nowhere near the giants ... and bradshaw is the only back in his way

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how so? miami's offense is nowhere near the giants ... and bradshaw is the only back in his way

lol Really? I thought Bess and Hartline were Nicks and Cruz?

Reggie Bush is all Miller has in his way and he (Bush) is going to be out at WR a good amount of the time. Miller's got a lot more to offer than Daniel Thomas.

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basically, reese cloned ahmad bradshaw and gave him 4.3 speed

should be a nice flier in fantasy drafts this year

He reminds me... a lot... of Tiki Barber.

His hard running style, speed and balance, the size... so many similarities.

If only he could catch like Tiki...

Wilson is going to be a pretty sick weapon in the Giants arsenal...

He may not have consistent stats week to week, but he definitely looks like a playmaker.

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Talent-wise Wilson is the second-best RB in this class IMO... only issues are ball security and an over-tendency to try and make the big play instead of turning it upfield for positive yardage. If he works to fix those, he's got a golden opportunity to be a real fantasy factor, especially when Bradshaw inevitably needs some time off. Wilson has fantastic vision, balance, the power to break tackles (led the nation in yards after contact in 2011), and elite speed. Can't wait to see how he does when they put the pads on later in the summer.

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Wilson shouldn't be considered a fantasy flier by whoever drafts Bradshaw given his well-known foot issues.

He should be without-a-doubt be off the draft board before the later rounds as an essential handcuff to Bradshaw.

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Giants OC Kevin Gilbride had high praise for first-round RB David Wilson's explosiveness at this week's minicamp.

"I don't know if we've had a guy as explosive, regardless of the position, here ... darting, the exposiveness in short bursts," said Gilbride. "He's got some excitement that I don't know if we've had that kind of guy. In this guy you've got the kind of explosion that I'm not sure how many guys in the league have." Wilson is a more talented runner than Ahmad Bradshaw, but he's going to have to polish his passing-game skills before threatening for the starting job down the road.

Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

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Wilson shouldn't be considered a fantasy flier by whoever drafts Bradshaw given his well-known foot issues.

He should be without-a-doubt be off the draft board before the later rounds as an essential handcuff to Bradshaw.

Exactly. If I miss out on the top tier RBs I will take Bradshaw later on and handcuff with Wilson for sure, good insurance.

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As much as people are emphasizing his quickness and speed, I think the video in the first post exemplifies David Wilson's best trait: extreme effort.

He's always fighting for that extra yard. Really love to see that in a RB. Marshawn Lynch has that kind of running style as well, and look how well that worked out last season when given a workload.

Unlike Jahvid Best, who has to break the big play to have consistent value in the rushing game, even if Wilson doesn't break a big one, the extra effort he gives on every run will likely translate into a good floor fantasy if he winds up in the feature back role (majority of carries), whether that be this season or in a future season. Then you tack on his big play upside and you've got a RB with a very good floor combined with Jahvid Best-like big play upside. That's a killer combination, imo.

I believe Chris Johnson's 40-yard dash time was 4.24. I've read that David Wilson has been clocked as fast as 4.29 in the 40, and I believe Jahvid Best's combine 40-time was 4.35. The numbers should give you a good idea of what company David Wilson is in from a speed perspective; all are top-notch fast.

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Long term, I am very excited for Wilson.

Big question is what kind of impact he can have this year. My other concern is his size, 5'10" 205#. I know he is more powerful than his size but I hope his body can take the hits.

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Big question is what kind of impact he can have this year. My other concern is his size, 5'10" 205#. I know he is more powerful than his size but I hope his body can take the hits.

I'm a lot less worried about his body being able to take the hits. I'm more worried about him mastering pass protection so he can be used frequently on the field. At 205lbs, that will be the key to his fantasy value.

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I'm a lot less worried about his body being able to take the hits. I'm more worried about him mastering pass protection so he can be used frequently on the field. At 205lbs, that will be the key to his fantasy value.

Agreed.

That, and the offense needs to channel additional emphasis on passing to the RBs.

The 2011 Giants offense netted roughly 75-80 pass completions to the RBs with Bradshaw pulling down 34 to lead the way and Ware grabbing another 27 (Jacobs 15, etc...). Bradshaw had 47 the year before.

Tiki Barber averaged 60+ catches per season and we haven't seen that concentration to one RB since he left the team.

David Wilson is built remarkably similarly (size/speed combo) to Tiki Barber and the hope is, obviously, that he can develop into the runner & receiver that Barber was.

With Bradshaw still locked into the lion's share of the workload, Wilson will have time to develop his craft... he will certainly see a share of carries, but the receptions will come along more slowly, increasing over the course of the season as his pass protection skills improve and as he supplants Ware as the Giants #2RB.

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I can't wait for this guy. I know Bradshaw is the No. 1, but the Giants are going to WANT to find a way to get this guy involved. He is going to be a playmaker in the NFL. There is a reason why they took him in the first round.

I'm kind've glad to see the hype hasn't really followed this guy, much like it has for Martin. I think Wilson is a more talented back than Martin. He is more explosive, and has that HR ability. The only thing blocking him from fantasy superstardom is Bradshaw. Don't get me wrong, opportunity is key in fantasy, but I think it is only a matter of time before we see David Wilson powering the rock across our television.

Ahmad Bradshaw has had some serious issues with his feet. Last year he avoided surgery and went with a bone marrow infusion in his ailing foot. Who knows if this will hold up. I don't see Bradshaw playing all 16 games, he is a smaller guy and is constantly dinged up. I know there is concern for DJ Ware but he is average at best. He simply won't have the presence/explosiveness that Wilson will.

The Giants ranked nearly last in rushing in 2011. They will work on that and drafted WIlson to be a big part of the new and revitalized rushing attack for the NY Giants. Eli has the ability to be an elite passer and open things up for the running game. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DRAFT DAVID WILSON. BY THE END OF 2012 HE WILL BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE NY GIANTS OFFENSE. Love the video rraaayyy3.

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The Giants ranked nearly last in rushing in 2011. They will work on that and drafted WIlson to be a big part of the new and revitalized rushing attack for the NY Giants. Eli has the ability to be an elite passer and open things up for the running game. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DRAFT DAVID WILSON. BY THE END OF 2012 HE WILL BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE NY GIANTS OFFENSE. Love the video rraaayyy3.

I agree. I've been trying to picking him late in almost every draft I can.

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More good news (from rotoworld, of course ;)):

Giants running backs coach Jerald Ingram said No. 32 overall pick David Wilson will be an "integral part of what we do this year."

Wilson is still raw in pass protection and knowledge of the playbook. But his speed and explosion has been evident since camp started. "He is going to be a contributor that they will at least have to try to defend because he does have that exceptional kind of speed that you're looking for," Ingram said. We're expecting Wilson to serve as a high-upside option directly behind Ahmad Bradshaw right away.

Can't wait to see him in action, I'm firmly entrenched in this bandwagon (have him in 8 of 9 teams so far). :)

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More good news (from rotoworld, of course ;)):

Giants running backs coach Jerald Ingram said No. 32 overall pick David Wilson will be an "integral part of what we do this year."

Wilson is still raw in pass protection and knowledge of the playbook. But his speed and explosion has been evident since camp started. "He is going to be a contributor that they will at least have to try to defend because he does have that exceptional kind of speed that you're looking for," Ingram said. We're expecting Wilson to serve as a high-upside option directly behind Ahmad Bradshaw right away.

Can't wait to see him in action, I'm firmly entrenched in this bandwagon (have him in 8 of 9 teams so far). :)

Agreed.

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I'm trying to compare him to a back in the league ...

The best I've come up with is a Charles/Bradshaw lovechild.

Can't ffff'n wait to see this guy (and the rest of the champs)

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Hopefully we see a nice little dose of him tonight.

hopefully not too much, i don't want him climbing too high before draft day

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Hopefully we see a nice little dose of him tonight.

hopefully not too much, i don't want him climbing too high before draft day

Valid.

I'm just a big time GGGMen fan and have been waiting to see this guy suit up and go to work. Want to keep him fresh of course, and under the radar at the same time.

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And you thought Ahmad Bradshaw was fast?

He is fast, actually, but not as fast as the new kid in town, according to Eli Manning. In an interview on WFAN on Monday morning – the same interview in which he playfully fired back at Amani Toomer – Manning gushed about rookie running back David Wilson, the Giants’ first-round pick, whom he called “the fastest running back we’ve ever had.”

“I mean this guy’s quick,” Manning said on the Boomer & Carton show. “He’s explosive, so that’s kind of exciting. Our running backs over the years have been that powerful, big guy.

“(But) with those young guys at running back, it’s all about learning protections. If all of a sudden I start changing plays, they’ve got o know exactly what they’re doing. You slowly work them in, you have a small amount of plays in a special package for them that they can get comfortable with and then you get them into the mix. So training camp will be a big help for him, getting him into live games.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2012/07/what-to-watch-at-giants-training-camp

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all i want to know is how his pass blocking is. doesn't matter how much potential he has, if he can't pass block his value takes a huge hit

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