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Paul George 2012-2013 Season Outlook - Ascension Into Stardom?

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He is one of the most talented guys in the league and put up some respectable numbers last year, but where does he go from there? His biggest downfall last year was his inconsistent offense, but rumor has it he plans to come to camp with a new mindset and looks ready for a bigger role on the team. Hopefully only good comes from this.

How do you guys feel about him?

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I don't know if you can project him to be a star at this point, he's still prob #3 in the offensive touches after Granger/ David West. From what I've seen from him so far, he doesn't have the offense to be that dominant player just yet.

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My feelings are akin to a shoulder shrug.

Perhaps I went a bit far with that .jpg bit. This sums it up pretty well- not really buying the hype, but not dismissing his game.

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I think he's currently comparable to Batum a few years ago. He's got a ton of potential both fantasy and reality but his still not in the right position and might not be for a while. I think he'll progress quite a bit this season but not enough to justify where he's being ranked.

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Not a good enough shooter yet. Kind of a 2/3 tweener. Alot to like. Maybe moreso on the defensive cats.

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He shot 39% from three point range last year on significant volume. Thats not enough for ya?

Not a good enough shooter yet. Kind of a 2/3 tweener. Alot to like. Especially if he keeps growing to 6'11 at the 3.

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He shot 39% from three point range last year on significant volume. Thats not enough for ya?

Not a good enough shooter yet. Kind of a 2/3 tweener. Alot to like. Especially if he keeps growing to 6'11 at the 3.

Nope.

Maybe I should have said "scorer" instead of "shooter", because clearly you define a shooter as solely a 3 point shooter.

I don't.

Back to George, I'm hot and cold with him. Just don't know what his role will be, and where he fits longterm. Reminds me body/skill set somewhat of Eddie Griffin when he came out of Seton Hall.

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Interesting comp in Griffin. George is far far more athletic and talented defensively. I am not sold on his stock either, but this is mostly due to the number of other offensive assets that they have on the team

Maybe I should have said "scorer" instead of "shooter", because clearly you define a shooter as solely a 3 point shooter.

I don't.

Back to George, I'm hot and cold with him. Just don't know what his role will be, and where he fits longterm. Reminds me body/skill set somewhat of Eddie Griffin when he came out of Seton Hall.

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Interesting comp in Griffin. George is far far more athletic and talented defensively. I am not sold on his stock either, but this is mostly due to the number of other offensive assets that they have on the team

Maybe I should have said "scorer" instead of "shooter", because clearly you define a shooter as solely a 3 point shooter.

I don't.

Back to George, I'm hot and cold with him. Just don't know what his role will be, and where he fits longterm. Reminds me body/skill set somewhat of Eddie Griffin when he came out of Seton Hall.

Yeah maybe not the best comparison, as George is far more capable with the ball in his hands. Reminds me of him though for whatever reason. George needs Granger out of the way, and the benefit of playing with better PG's than the likes of George Hill, DJ Augustin, Darren Collison etc

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George's athleticism is off the charts. He can jump out of the gym and has a great wingspan, thus the reason his defensive capabilities standout. However, he struggles with defensive fundamentals. He was his own worst enemy last season in picking up early cheap fouls and then riding the bench for signficant portions of the game. A lot of his "highlight" defensive plays were really the result of getting beat by his man and then recovering to make the play. Not the way to make your living on the defensive end.

On offense, the Pacers ran very few plays for him. Most of his points came in transition and was greatly aided by a tremendous 3-point shooting percentage. The problem is that his shooting was inconsistent. I think that it is pretty obvious that he is more suited to play the 3 rather than 2. He just doesn't have the ball handling capabilities to drive on a lot of the top perimeter defenders, but when he gets a step, well...

He made great strides last year and continues to work to improve. He has bulked up a little and has been working on his post game. He really reminds me more of Rudy Gay than any other player. Both are in the 6'8" to 6'10" range with tremendous wingspans. The biggest difference is Gay has a more developed offensive game.

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Great comp on Rudy Gay. Never thought of that until you mentioned it.

George's athleticism is off the charts. He can jump out of the gym and has a great wingspan, thus the reason his defensive capabilities standout. However, he struggles with defensive fundamentals. He was his own worst enemy last season in picking up early cheap fouls and then riding the bench for signficant portions of the game. A lot of his "highlight" defensive plays were really the result of getting beat by his man and then recovering to make the play. Not the way to make your living on the defensive end.

On offense, the Pacers ran very few plays for him. Most of his points came in transition and was greatly aided by a tremendous 3-point shooting percentage. The problem is that his shooting was inconsistent. I think that it is pretty obvious that he is more suited to play the 3 rather than 2. He just doesn't have the ball handling capabilities to drive on a lot of the top perimeter defenders, but when he gets a step, well...

He made great strides last year and continues to work to improve. He has bulked up a little and has been working on his post game. He really reminds me more of Rudy Gay than any other player. Both are in the 6'8" to 6'10" range with tremendous wingspans. The biggest difference is Gay has a more developed offensive game.

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George's athleticism is off the charts. He can jump out of the gym and has a great wingspan, thus the reason his defensive capabilities standout. However, he struggles with defensive fundamentals. He was his own worst enemy last season in picking up early cheap fouls and then riding the bench for signficant portions of the game. A lot of his "highlight" defensive plays were really the result of getting beat by his man and then recovering to make the play. Not the way to make your living on the defensive end.

On offense, the Pacers ran very few plays for him. Most of his points came in transition and was greatly aided by a tremendous 3-point shooting percentage. The problem is that his shooting was inconsistent. I think that it is pretty obvious that he is more suited to play the 3 rather than 2. He just doesn't have the ball handling capabilities to drive on a lot of the top perimeter defenders, but when he gets a step, well...

He made great strides last year and continues to work to improve. He has bulked up a little and has been working on his post game. He really reminds me more of Rudy Gay than any other player. Both are in the 6'8" to 6'10" range with tremendous wingspans. The biggest difference is Gay has a more developed offensive game.

I'm a huge fan of this kid and I think the comparison to Gay is a good one. I just don't think he's going to get the keys to the car until Granger or the coach gives it to him. That could happen by the end of the season, but there is no guarantee and I doubt very highly that he'll play up to his draft ranking until January or February at the earliest.

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I like George and have him in a few keepers. So, I think highly of his game. But I do think he's become a little overrated. I've read people predicting that he'll be a superstar and that Indiana should just hand the reins to him right now. I've watched the kid play a lot, and he's not even close to being ready to be a #1 offensive option.

The offensive skill set just isn't that impressive right now. He's a great leaper, but I don't see him being a huge scorer. Maybe 18-20 PPG in his prime. I love his game for roto, with the high 3 and steal totals, but I just don't think he's ready to take his offensive game to the next level. What you hear about his offensive potential doesn't really match up to what you see when you actually watch him play.

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I don't see the Gay comparison aside from their build and length, since Gay was way more polished with his offensive game coming into the league. I think the name was mentioned before, but George is a clone of Nic Batum, both fantasy and real life. Similar height, build, wingspan, game play, and career trajectory (thus far). Batum played as a role player this far into his player playing behind the likes of Brandon Roy and Gerald Wallace, and he was a defensive specialist who was efficient and can knock down 3's, just like George playing behind Granger now. Batum is more polished now on both ends of the floor, but their game and stat lines are pretty interchangeable. I am a big fan of both of them, and own at least one of them in all my keeper leagues.

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he has a rudy gay like fantasy profile mostly due to his ability to hit 3s, get steals and block shots. Batum is a also another comp

I don't see the Gay comparison aside from their build and length, since Gay was way more polished with his offensive game coming into the league. I think the name was mentioned before, but George is a clone of Nic Batum, both fantasy and real life. Similar height, build, wingspan, game play, and career trajectory (thus far). Batum played as a role player this far into his player playing behind the likes of Brandon Roy and Gerald Wallace, and he was a defensive specialist who was efficient and can knock down 3's, just like George playing behind Granger now. Batum is more polished now on both ends of the floor, but their game and stat lines are pretty interchangeable. I am a big fan of both of them, and own at least one of them in all my keeper leagues.

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Nice comps with Gay and Batum. Gay has had Conley (I like him alot), and Batum now with Lillard (gotta be better than Felton, no?), but how does George really break out with George Hill running the point? I think George needs that change of scenery, or morseso Granger to go away. I think his talent is maximized in that current situation.

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This guy is flying way up my cheat sheets. There is no way Granger is going to make it through this season, and he's the only guy in George's way from really doing something impactful.

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Granger's not gonna make it, man. :( As a Pacers fan this is such a bummer, though it could be just what needs to happen to for PG to reach the next level.

Here's some tweets from Mike Wells about Danny's knee.

Mike Wells ‏@MikeWellsNBA

I'm not sold Granger will play the entire season after this quote “(The knee) is testing me." (Cont)

Mike Wells ‏@MikeWellsNBA

More Granger: "They’re telling me the pain can’t do anything else to my knee. I’m going to have to play through the pain, but it hurts.”

PG's been chucking up some pretty ridiculous shots this preseason, he hasn't been efficient but he's been producing. I wonder what he's going to play like when the games actually matter.

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George has been rather unimpressive this preseason. His offensive game still lacks polish, I rather have Batum whose going around the same range.

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Honestly, I don't know that Granger being out would be a great thing for George. If Granger is out, George will be Indiana's top perimeter threat and defenses will hone in on him in a totally different way. The shots and PPG would go up, but the efficiency would go way down. I just haven't seen anything in George's game to indicate he's ready to take on the role of a lead scorer.

Look at the games Granger missed last season, George was really inefficient and struggled mightily. Best case scenario would be Granger can play, and George's usage can go up a bit and he can remain fairly efficient.

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Anyone have any projections?

he's largely unforgettable because he plays for the pacers, but his counting stats have potential to be elite.

I don't think he's a number one scorer in this league, but I thought that about Granger and he put up top 20 stats 2 years ago.

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Its hard for me to get excited about this guy while he plays in Indiana. Thats been a painful team to own players on.

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