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Zack Greinke 2013 Outlook

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What an absolutely absurd deal he got. I don't know how he pulled it off but good for him I guess. LAD management could/will look really foolish, maybe even as soon as this year. It seemed like the perfect storm for him this offseason. Does he still represent himself and not use a player agent? Because if he does he is going to get all of it aswell.

Nice little tidbit worth knowing... LAD payroll is the HIGHEST EVER in MLB. Probably in NA pro sports. It comes in just below FC Barcelonas total of $217 million.

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Greinke's deal makes Matt Cain's extension look like a bargain. I'd rather have Cain for what he signed than Greinke at these numbers.

Lesson to be learned.....pitching is EXPENSIVE. You better develop your own cheaply if you want to win the World Series.

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It's said Dodgers will eventually have a $300M payroll given their recent HUGE television deal.

And I'm sure they'll receive nowheres near the amount of venom the Yankees get for having absurdly large payrolls.....

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As a Ranger fan, I'd just like to say Thank you to the Dodgers for saving us from this bullet. Nice pitcher, no doubt, but 25 million per is way too rich for my blood. Congrats to Dodger fans?

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Greinke's deal makes Matt Cain's extension look like a bargain. I'd rather have Cain for what he signed than Greinke at these numbers.

Lesson to be learned.....pitching is EXPENSIVE. You better develop your own cheaply if you want to win the World Series.

I'd rather have Cain period. Greinke ain't right ... in the head

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am I the only one who thinks he has become overrated? I don't think he's top 5. maybe not top 10.

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It's said Dodgers will eventually have a $300M payroll given their recent HUGE television deal.

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Greinke has been on a steady decline in recent years. For the Dodgers to give him the biggest contract of any pitcher is astonishing. Good luck with that Dodgers. His contract looks nice right next to Beckett, Crawford, and Gonzalez.

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It's said Dodgers will eventually have a $300M payroll given their recent HUGE television deal.

And I'm sure they'll receive nowheres near the amount of venom the Yankees get for having absurdly large payrolls.....

The Dodgers will get some venom, especially if they get off to a slow start. The issue with the Yankees is that not many people liked them before they had all the money, and then once they had it, it just got bad with all the things they had to take. It's what it is. At least they have money to spend. I still remember the O's last year trying to scrap together money and make an offer to Fielder. They kept saying Duquette was asking Angelos and he kept denying. Don't complain about having an owner with money, or one that at least cares about the team.

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It's said Dodgers will eventually have a $300M payroll given their recent HUGE television deal.

And I'm sure they'll receive nowheres near the amount of venom the Yankees get for having absurdly large payrolls.....

The Dodgers will get some venom, especially if they get off to a slow start. The issue with the Yankees is that not many people liked them before they had all the money, and then once they had it, it just got bad with all the things they had to take. It's what it is. At least they have money to spend. I still remember the O's last year trying to scrap together money and make an offer to Fielder. They kept saying Duquette was asking Angelos and he kept denying. Don't complain about having an owner with money, or one that at least cares about the team.

I'm a Mets fan, and sure I was jealous growing up, but I respect owners who put standings over balance sheets. there are too many owners in baseball who put garbage on the field and leech money from the rest of the teams. it's bizarre that the Yanks have become a team that cares more about finances than the on-field product. in a disgusting way, it's refreshing that the Dodgers are throwing around money with reckless abandon. maybe I'll change my tune if they win the next 3 World Series, but honestly I don't think they're all that dominant considering the amount of money they've spent.

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If Zack stays healthy he will EXPLODE this year. I LOVE pitchers going into their 2nd season of making the cutter one of their more important pitches. His park, his team behind him, his division...soooo many positives. Unfortunately for me I play AL-only, but if I played in a mixed or NL-only, I'd make him a super high priority.

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Greinke's deal makes Matt Cain's extension look like a bargain. I'd rather have Cain for what he signed than Greinke at these numbers.

Lesson to be learned.....pitching is EXPENSIVE. You better develop your own cheaply if you want to win the World Series.

I'd rather have Cain period. Greinke ain't right ... in the head

Yeah, I probably should have just said that. I agree 100%.

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Greinke's deal makes Matt Cain's extension look like a bargain. I'd rather have Cain for what he signed than Greinke at these numbers.

Lesson to be learned.....pitching is EXPENSIVE. You better develop your own cheaply if you want to win the World Series.

I'd rather have Cain period. Greinke ain't right ... in the head

Yeah, I probably should have just said that. I agree 100%.

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Cain overperforms his peripherals every year and Greinke underperforms them. at the end of the day, I want the guy who puts up better #s. Cain is a horse and a beast and I'd love to have him on my team. Greinke is a great pitcher but I know if I really need him for one game, that might be the game he melts down and gives up 7er. I trust Cain to battle without his best stuff and give my team a chance to win. that's an ace in my opinion.

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Dodgers paid to much for Grienke? Yeah, but ownership has deep pockets. Dodgers do indeed have a lot of players that make HUGE bucks, but if they can perform at 75% level of their talent, the dodgers are going to be strong contenders from the NL.

Also, what this talk about rather having Cain over Grienke? While I agree, he wasn't a FA that the dodgers could go after...

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Dodgers paid to much for Grienke? Yeah, but ownership has deep pockets. Dodgers do indeed have a lot of players that make HUGE bucks, but if they can perform at 75% level of their talent, the dodgers are going to be strong contenders from the NL.

Also, what this talk about rather having Cain over Grienke? While I agree, he wasn't a FA that the dodgers could go after...

They are comparing them because their contracts are very similar with Grienke now earning more than Cain. Remember that before this deal, Cain was the highest paid right hander of all time.

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Verlanders extension is due soon, nice contract precedent lol. Emo boy has the pressure on now, interesting to see if his fragile narrative shows it's face. Be cool to hear Vin this yr, I hope zack does well

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I feel like everyone is waiting for the next big signing to happen so we can talk about how bad the contract is (such and such is getting paid less and is better; this player has been declining; etc). I kind of view it as the industry standard, don't you think? A player plays his best during his best years for, usually, a pretty team friendly contract. Then when they are free of said team-friendly contract, they go out and get their big paycheck, even though they almost always will never be as good as they were to earn that contract. Unless we start handing out massive contracts to young, amazing talent, there is always going to be this imbalance.

And as a Yankee fan, I do appreciate not being the largest payroll anymore, but I wouldn't cheer on any deal from the perspective that it saves my team from a bad contract. First it was Cain, now it's Greinke... all these players do is set a precedent of what other teams will need to pay and it'll only get higher. If the team has the money, they'll find some place to spend it.

But srsly, the Dodgers payroll is cray-cray.

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The Dodgers got robbed by a crybaby in this deal. They just made one of the most over rated pitchers in baseball a record contract. He has an away ERA of 4.17 over the past 3 seasons. This could get ugly if he gets off to a bad start in LA and starts hearing boos at home. For fantasy purposes I came up with 12 players I'd draft before him. I'm sure I left some out too.

Sabathia

Cain

Verlander

Kershaw

Price

Felix

Weaver

Strasburg

Sale

Lee

Gio

Hamels

Dickey

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Mattingly has his work cut out for him. Imagine trying to manage Hanley, Grienke, and Beckett.

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Mattingly has his work cut out for him. Imagine trying to manage Hanley, Grienke, and Beckett.

Youd think Beckett would be okay as hes at best their third option now, but based on recent history Id put him behind Capuano. No pressure for him in LA, probably going to help a lot!

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