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Just curious how other leagues are dealing with the Houston Astros coming to AL for 2013 , Are you increasing your roster sizes or just adding a pitcher etc? are you adding a team too your league , or just increasing your free agent pool ? my league is a standard 4X4 league with 23 players 14 position players 9 pitchers and it is 12 team league, how do you suggest absorbing the Astros , right now were leaning towards just adding a 10th pitcher. also how do you adjust your auction $ if you increase roster size? thanks for any input you can offer.

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To adjust the $, just figure out what you are budgeted for each player. For instance, I am in a NL only where you get 24 players and the salary is $275, which is an average of roughly $11 per player. All you do then is add that much money for each player that you add to your rosters.

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I'm trying to convince my league to make some big changes this year...

Last season we did a redraft league, snake style drafting, H2H, and only had 8 teams.

This year I'm hoping we do auction style with maybe 3 or 4 keepers. roto scoring, and aiming upwards of 10 teams.

How should I pitch this to my league mates?

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I'm trying to convince my league to make some big changes this year...

Last season we did a redraft league, snake style drafting, H2H, and only had 8 teams.

This year I'm hoping we do auction style with maybe 3 or 4 keepers. roto scoring, and aiming upwards of 10 teams.

How should I pitch this to my league mates?

1. you are on the right track looking to get more owners, 8 teams in baseball is pretty low, if that is the case, even with 10, I might look to go AL or NL only to have some depth, required knowledge and strategy.

2. I love my leagues format, its auction keeper. $130 cap (most are 260) - 10 keepers, we also have a 3 round minor league draft every year. I think it brings a lot more activity and interest into the league, because in order to be competitive, you must be active. We have 13 owners, 11 of the 13 have been on our site doing something this month (November) what they are doing I have no idea but they have logged in, but it just shows they are interested and there have been some trades made already which is what I assume people are doing. Adding the keeper and auction component to a league really increases the interest people have in the league.

But...these types of leagues also need the right type of commissioners, clear rules and good owners.

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To adjust the $, just figure out what you are budgeted for each player. For instance, I am in a NL only where you get 24 players and the salary is $275, which is an average of roughly $11 per player. All you do then is add that much money for each player that you add to your rosters.

You might not want to drop a full average share into the pool for that extra slot.

Chances are very good, if you do that, that nobody's going to be adding an $11 pitcher to that last slot with that cash... much more likely you're looking at a bunch of $1 tenth pitchers added to rosters and an extra $10 spent inflating salaries on the rest of the rosters.

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We are staying with 12 managers in our league, but changing BA to OBP.

This should add a great twist and more depth to the league.

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My favorite settings I've played in is 6x6 roto.

R, RBI, HR, SB, OBP, SLG

ERA, WHIP, W, SV, K, QS

(162 max games per position)

C

1B

2B

3B

SS

OF

OF

OF

OF

CI

MI

UTL

8 x P (1800 max innings)

6 x BN

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how are other AL only roto leagues adjusting with the inclusion of the houston Astros this year too the American League are you increasing your rosters ? do you increase your auction dollars ? etc etc.

My league is 4x4 with 14 position players and 9 pitchers so 23 total active roster positions , thanks for any help!

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how are other AL only roto leagues adjusting with the inclusion of the houston Astros this year too the American League are you increasing your rosters ? do you increase your auction dollars ? etc etc.

My league is 4x4 with 14 position players and 9 pitchers so 23 total active roster positions , thanks for any help!

The settings our league is based on was one I was in during the early 90's that had AL and NL component, I remember when the Rocks and Marlins came into the league the auction price or rosters werent adjusted, changed the value slightly, but you are still talking about "only" leagues which means starting players still have a tremendous amount of value.

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Not sure where to ask this, so I'm posting here.

We have a raging debate in our keeper league with this setting. So I come here to ask the experts:

Which stat is better and why?

Quality starts or wins?

We thank you for your responses.

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Not sure where to ask this, so I'm posting here.

We have a raging debate in our keeper league with this setting. So I come here to ask the experts:

Which stat is better and why?

We thank you for your responses.

Quality starts is more fair to starters. It seems like there are always the few very unlucky starters that will end up with no offensive support every time they pitch or the bullpen blows it. Just look at Cliff Lee last year. It took him until the All Star Break to get his first win. I personally prefer quality starts over wins.

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We are having the same debate

I like QS, just because it removes a bad/good bullpen from the equation. The obv flaw is that 6.0 inn of 3 runs or less baseball isnt terribly difficult, and tends to over compensate for the obv flaw of Wins being a team reflected stat. My recommendation is to go to a site like onroto that can customize stats, like making QS 7.0 inn requirement instead of 6.0. However I understand thats not always possible (my league mates dont want to change sites for example), and one is forced to choose. In that case, I choose QS as I believe its "less" flawed than Wins, and can be balanced nicely by having k/9 as a stat category to give relief pitching value as well. Nothing worse than losing the title on a RP "Win", after his team bails him out on a blown save. Thats the worst case scenario, and it cant happen if you eliminate W and go with QS

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Not sure where to ask this, so I'm posting here.

We have a raging debate in our keeper league with this setting. So I come here to ask the experts:

Which stat is better and why?

Quality starts or wins?

We thank you for your responses.

Personally I prefer QS over Wins and I've been trying to get a roto league that I'm in to switch to QS. Some of members feel it devalues RP due to their inability to contribute to QS where they could in Wins. I don't think it's possible with our current website but I thought a remedy would be to have a cat of QS + RP Wins (SP Wins would not count).

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how are other AL only roto leagues adjusting with the inclusion of the houston Astros this year too the American League are you increasing your rosters ? do you increase your auction dollars ? etc etc.

My league is 4x4 with 14 position players and 9 pitchers so 23 total active roster positions , thanks for any help!

We're not changing anything. 10 team, AL only, $260 auction budget, 14 hitters, 9 pitchers, 7 keepers.

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We have a raging debate in our keeper league with this setting. So I come here to ask the experts:

Which stat is better and why?

Quality starts or wins?

QS by a mile because pitchers can't control many of the factors that contribute to wins:

crappy offense

park factors

errors

unearned runs

blown saves

etc.

Before 2012 i tried to get my league to switch from W's to QS and only 3 owners, including myself, voted for it. During the season I kept track of every team's QS to see how things would have been different and it would have impacted the final standings, including the money positions. I shared my results with the league after the season was over and nobody cared. Good luck getting them to switch. :)

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You gotta have a progressive group to throw Ws out the window entirely. I don't love the QS as a stat, simply because the "q" part is pretty minimal - six innings of. 4.5 ERA ball and you're there - and also because it's one of those lousy stats you have to look on the subpages to find. But there's certainly plenty to recommend it.

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Any thoughts out there on SOLDS vs Saves?

My league doesnt have free agency, so closers who lose jobs or roll the dice on an upside guy and they dont get a job are risky, that said, I kind of like the risk reward element to it. I like two years ago rolling the dice and getting a $3 Kimbrel because he might be sharing a job with Vetters when we had our auction. Had we had SOLDS (Saves + Holds) it never happens, with his K rate, he might of been the highest guy taken that year because there would be no "job security" issues.

I think it makes sense in that you are trying to take the best bullpen guy, regardless of whether or not they are an 8th or 9th inning guy, but I think it also completely takes away some of the thinking mans aspect and risk-reward to the approach that can pay off for those in the know. Im a bit torn as commish as to whether or not I even want to bring it up to the league.

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We use net saves as a reliever category and it works great: saves - blown saves + holds/2

Closers have higher value than 7th/8th inning guys, but the 7th/8th inning guys aren't worth almost nothing.

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We use net saves as a reliever category and it works great: saves - blown saves + holds/2

Closers have higher value than 7th/8th inning guys, but the 7th/8th inning guys aren't worth almost nothing.

Good idea, so I assume that the closer still is valued more, but I would be interesting to see those elite high K closers versus a low k closer like Jensen vs. League and how they would be valued.

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Not sure where to ask this, so I'm posting here.

We have a raging debate in our keeper league with this setting. So I come here to ask the experts:

Which stat is better and why?

Quality starts or wins?

We thank you for your responses.

Quality starts is a heavily flawed stat and is incredibly frustrating as a fantasy category. It is also 10000000 times better then wins. So that will let you know how I feel about using wins as a category. NOTHING is more infuriating than being first place in ERA, second place in WHIP, and LAST PLACE in wins. Especially when you have an innings cap and the category is decided based on who's relievers fluke there way to 7-8 wins while another teams closer's only get 1-2.

QS>W. But know QS will frustrate you too, but it is by far the lesser of two evils.

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You gotta have a progressive group to throw Ws out the window entirely. I don't love the QS as a stat, simply because the "q" part is pretty minimal - six innings of. 4.5 ERA ball and you're there - and also because it's one of those lousy stats you have to look on the subpages to find. But there's certainly plenty to recommend it.

Last season every team in my league ended with an ERA under 4.50 yet very few are in favor of changing to QS over W.

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h2h categories league is trying something that will either be cool or could be a distaster. interested if anyone has experience with this:

we are adding "total bases" to replace OPS ... the thinking is that OPS favored the power game too much, while total bases would be more even for leadoff type guys and also still reward walks and extra base hits. Case in point, Michael Brantley ranked much higher in total bases last year than he did in OPS.

My concern is that i have no idea what the category scores would look like week to week, and im also thinking it could leave a lotta of BS up to official scoring quirks, like, if a guy advances to third on an error with 2 outs and then scores on a hit, does he get credit for two more bases? one more base? or no more bases b/c the inning should be over?

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we must be idiots, just did some reading and our understanding of total bases is way off

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So we all know that W's are a faulted stat. I think QS is a little better, but apparently I don't understand what constitutes a QS. I guess that if a pitcher lets up more than 3 runs, even if he pitches a CG, it doesn't count as a QS. Kinda rough.

I'm just curious what stats other people use in 5x5 leagues.

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hey everyone,

my league has recently switched to a new scoring format and i was wondering if anyone could provide some tips in terms of how i should change my thought process when drafting and determining a player's overall value? we used to do a standard 5x5 ages ago but then switched to a points system to help get some of our new guys acclimated to the game. now that we are all good to go, we have changed to a 6x6 format that is set up in the following manner:

batting categories: R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, OPS

pitching categories: W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, QS

we are also going with a keeper league (starting this year, year 1) in we are keeping one keeper per year up to a cap of 3 total keepers. each player kept in future years is at the cost of the round that that player was selected at in the previous year (with the FAs being penalized at a 10th rd expense).

to be honest, i am quite excited to finally be going back to a categories scoring format, but with a couple of additional categories along with the keepers rules, i feel i need to study a tad bit more -- thus i am a bit overwhelmed and confused as to where to start. to me it seems that the yahoo prerankings will not be a clear cut answer as to how to draft because i think a lot of the rankings are based off of redraft leagues.

i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to how i should proceed with something like this? maybe if anyone knows of any solid threads that have covered something like this? or possibly any good article reads?

i would greatly appreciate any and all gems of wisdom here!

Thanks!! :)

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